Westbahnhof
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Any suggestions for a name for the Austrian election OT?
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German Federal Elections 2017 |OT| Electing the new leader of the free world
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Westbahnhof
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Reminds me way too much of that "morgen mach ich blau" stuff I saw before the last election
bobnowhere
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Austrian election OT - The Government's term has been... Shortened.
No one will get it 
Bitch Pudding
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I'm totally serious. Our grandchildren shouldn't pay the debth for our expenses. Especially in times of growth and flourishing economy saving money is essential. Keep making depths for times things go down the tube.
PdotMichael
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He can't enforce anything in Greece.
Reminds me way too much of that "morgen mach ich blau" stuff I saw before the last election
Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht.....
Austrian Election OT - If you thought the German elections were bad....
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Voting right wing parties into parliament since 1949
kingkaiser
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Austrian Election OT - It's Anschluss Time!
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Austrian Election OT - Party like it's 1938!
Westbahnhof
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This one seems appropriate.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=250293371#post250293371
Fake Edit:
MAN! I like this a lot too, oh well. You can tell I'm very optimistic.
Sorry everyone. I had such an annoying time making that thread, I couldn't wait for your lovely ideas.
Thing is, if Kurz becomes chancellor, it'll probably be through a coalition with the FPÖ.
Bitch Pudding
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You confuse making depths with investments.
Can someone translate this for me? Thanks
Bitch Pudding
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long story short:
"Sophie Scholl would vote for AfD."
Sophia Scholl was a German student and anti-Nazi political activist, active within the White Rose non-violent resistance group in Nazi Germany
She was convicted of high treason after having been found distributing anti-war leaflets at the University of Munich (LMU) with her brother Hans. As a result, they were both executed by guillotine. (from Wiki)
Yep I know who Sophie Scholl is but I wanted to know how they could use such an anti-nazi figure for their right-wing propaganda. I bet they used a quote out of context or something. Just wanted to know what the text exactly said.
dragonbane
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Its an anti-Nazi quote they seemingly tried to spin into an anti-establishment and maybe anti-immigration/islam quote which is highly gross. It basically says its beneath us to give up without resistance and allow us to be ruled by irresponsible people with dark motivations
Quick'n'dirty:
"Nothing is more unseemly for a cultured people, than offering no resistance towards being ruled by an irresponsible and darkly urged ruling clique."
Debt in a company / government is not bad as long as the investment done with that money is able to pay back the debt. That is the reason why countries can maintain negative budgets, as the debt cost is less than the increase revenue in the future due to them (simplified version). Trying to maintain a totally positive budget is not always good, as it stiffens the investments and creates a worse future. That is not to say that the government should have huge debts, as then they are not making the money back from investments. However, thinking that government budgets works like households one is bad.
Edit: If the country borrows 50 millions of Euros but is able to increase that way the economic output in a way, it is better than waiting 2-3 years (until the government has the spare cash in the budget) and then paying it in cash. Debt is not always bad.
In 2008—before interests in the Euro zone took a dramatic nose dive as a consequence of the crisis—we spent ~15% of our federal budget just to pay the interests of our debt. Since then, it only fell mainly due to the unprecedented low interest rate in the EU.
The idea behind anti-cyclic fiscal policies is to pay back debts during times of economic growths; on other words, to pay them back right now. Unless we are happy with the permanent anti-social redistribution of a significant part of our federal budget from our tax payers to foreign and domestic investors.
Thank you guys. It's somehow not as bad as expected. Still fuck the afd.
What kids though?
The Swiss show Germans how to do an interview with Alice Weidel:
https://youtu.be/SHyxzHuMvFc?t=198
https://youtu.be/SHyxzHuMvFc?t=198
Muffin1611
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Oh my god, that is one dumb name. Please don't use that.
Gurgelhals
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I think that one is as old as the term Jamaica Coalition. At least I think I already heard it in the aftermath of the 2005 election.
tbh, I like the term precisely because it sounds so dumb :-|
Faynwulf
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*A swiss slam-poet, on a german tv show.
I was confused before looking at that link, because I couldn't think of a reason why the swiss would be interested in Alice Weidel.
I mean I'm happy for everything that could lead to the AfD imploding, but in general I really think this is a flaw in the system. He only got his seat in the Bundestag, because the AfD assigned it to him. The electorate didn't vote for him directly, so the seat belongs to the party, not to him personally. If he doesn't want to be part of the fraction, the seat should just go to the next candidate on the list.
Rumor has it CDU agreed to cap refugees at 200k aka Seehofer gets his Obergrenze
Which means well head for new elections because neither the greens nor the FDP will agree
https://twitter.com/thomaswalde/status/917066146100150272
Which means well head for new elections because neither the greens nor the FDP will agree
Muffin1611
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I'd love to hear how this is even compatible with our constitution and article 16a from the CDU
Muffin1611
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Probably so CDU can tell AfD voters later "we tried to do it but the Greens and the FDP wouldn't let us!" as well as having a sacrificial lamb for the negotiations
Exactly. Come on, we play this game for two years now. Seehofer plays the bad cop but plays along in the end.
I read some constitutional lawyer analyzing it would be possible last week but im too lazy to search for it.
Apparently theres some kind of loophole they can use.
I doubt the CSU is gonna drop it.
Mutti 4 weeks ago
SporeCrawler
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they can change it with the afd no?
Muffin1611
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They can't, 66% is needed for that. And they also wouldn't, unless they want to utterly destroy themselves next election.
SporeCrawler
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seehofer doesnt seem to care.
i really doubt that merkel will accept the cap. it would be devastating for her reputation and seehofer already doesnt seem to have much backing in his party tbh.
Thats why Seehofer needs it.
With the BTW result and next years election in bavaria hell be gone without some kind of victory on the Obergrenzen topic.
SporeCrawler
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seehofer wont win over bavaria with his strategy. he already failed with that this election. people that think that there is a need for a cap will vote for afd. people that dont will vote for other parties (fdp or green)
It doesnt matter whether hell win bavaria with it or not.
Söder and Scheuerl will take him down if he doesnt get this.
CSU is scared because the AFD takes their vote. Thats while theyll shift hard right in the coming months.
As they said on election night they want to close the right flank