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Fargo - Season 3 - Brothers, Bridge, and Backstabbing in 2010 Minnesota - Wed on FX

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BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
The opening scene this week with VM eating breakfast and expelling it made me nauseas on so many levels. Wasnt just the bolting of the food but the sense of gluttony only to throw it all up.
 
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Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Aiii said:
Netflix misplaced the latest episode lol, now I can't watch it.

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Netflix has current seasons of shows? Since when is that a thing?
 
Grizzlyjin

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Anoregon said:
Netflix has current seasons of shows? Since when is that a thing?
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Couple years now. Outside of the United States, Netflix has the rights for some shows. They usually get added the morning after they air here. Better Call Saul, Riverdale, iZombie, Designated Survivor, etc.

We don't see too much the other way around. I think they've tried it out with a show or two. But usually we just get them after they've completed their run abroad with a "Netflix Original" label slapped on them.
 
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SunDimension24

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Cornballer said:
That's international, it's not available in the US. They've been doing this for a while depending on region.
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Yeah HULU has streaming rights for Fargo in the US so we have to wait until they decide to drop the season on there. They put legion on there quickly so I hope they do the same for Fargo season 3.
 
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Moff

Member
that was the first legit fargo episode of the season

loved the peter und der wolf soundtrack, thewlis was fantastic and the new police girl will totally turn out to be the badass pro shooting those goons, you just watch
 
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dead souls

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Another episode that bored me to tears. I think I'm over this show. Strip away all the try-hard affectations and there's nothing there.
 
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Jb

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I have no idea what Varga was referring to in his "peasants and pitchforks" speech. Really curious to see where this goes.
 
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tearsintherain

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Jb said:
I have no idea what Varga was referring to in his "peasants and pitchforks" speech. Really curious to see where this goes.
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I assume its the eternal fear of the rich that the poor will put them up against the wall and shoot them for their excesses. Varga has just taken it to an extreme, where he seems to have altered his entire life to be rich yet invisible, so when "the revolution" occurs he can blend in with the common man. He's a man from the french revolution, living in modern times.

The whole crime angle is just weird though, like if he is so smart and great at making money, creating some weird drug or refugee pipeline into Minnesota using parking lots and land development doesn't really seem to be the greatest use of time to generate wealth. I assume like Billy Bob from season 1, he is just a super eccentric character who has latched onto the Stussy bros for odd reasons and just can't let go.
 
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Jb

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tearsintherain said:
I assume its the eternal fear of the rich that the poor will put them up against the wall and shoot them for their excesses. Varga has just taken it to an extreme, where he seems to have altered his entire life to be rich yet invisible, so when "the revolution" occurs he can blend in with the common man. He's a man from the french revolution, living in modern times.
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I just wonder if this "uprising" is something we'll see in this season, or if it's all in his head. Class warfare didn't seem like one of the main themes of the show so far. At the very least it did a lot to differentiate him from the kind of bad guy Malvo was.
 
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BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
Jb said:
I just wonder if this "uprising" is something we'll see in this season, or if it's all in his head. Class warfare didn't seem like one of the main themes of the show so far. At the very least it did a lot to differentiate him from the kind of bad guy Malvo was.
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I just took at as commentary on the current economic disparity. Its all in his head. Just a demented reason to go through criminal means to hide his riches. Whats interesting is if this way of thinking will corrupt Emmit, who is relatively innocent and naive by comparison.
 
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IggyChooChoo

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Speevy said:
This show is about as suspenseful as a box of kittens.
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Fair enough. I don't remember the movie Fargo feeling all that suspenseful, either. The plot felt to me like an excuse to have weird characters spout amusing, off-kilter dialogue in an odd corner of the world. Either you get caught up in it or you don't. I was always sort of surprised Fargo (the movie) got so much praise -- it seemed designed to annoy people who wanted a conventional crime story. But it's true this season is less tense than season one.
 
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Devilinthiscity

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I was really looking forward to this season when I heard about the cast, but I'm not really feeling it so far. By far the weakest of the three seasons as of right now.
 
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Mineshaft_Gap

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I'm going to give this one more episode and I'm out. Nothing has grabbed me like the first two seasons so far.

Season 1 had been my favorite but I adored both S1 and S2. S3 has been very bust thus far. Unsympathetic and boring characters and it's starting to get quite far up its own ass.
 
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Goldmund

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Not sure if it's necessary to spoiler-tag, but I guess it's considerate to do it anyway. It mostly concerns episode 4, The Narrow Escape Problem.

I think this last episode was exceptionally well-written. At the beginning of the show I was put off by how implausibly stereotypical, almost cartoonish not just the characters but their relationships were; mapping these (characters and ties) to
Peter and the Wolf
was handled so nicely (despite not working out evenly, if you think about it too much) that such a mapping must have informed their creation in the first place
(I guess Gloria's tomboyish hairdo was a tell?)
; that kind of made up for my initial frustration. The scene with
Varga's pitchforked masses speech
was also great (in a somewhat meta way): the truth is not in the story--its apocalyptic agents may or may not exist--, its truth grows out of what happens if you tell it to the perennially unconcerned (
ES
, or us watching the show?).

The only thing that still irks me is the technology-not-cooperating motif.
It made sense this time to keep Gloria in the restroom
but I don't see how it can factor into the plot
without having another series of UFOs descend from the heavens
.
 
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dorn.

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Goldmund said:
The only thing that still irks me is the technology-not-cooperating motif.
It made sense this time to keep Gloria in the restroom
but I don't see how it can factor into the plot
without having another series of UFOs descend from the heavens
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I think the whole "technology doesn't work for her" thing is going to tie into her dynamic with
V.M. Varga. In the last two episodes it was established that he uses technology to spy on people. Gloria being completely tech-illiterate is likely going to help her deal with him/staying hidden from him.

Also, regarding the Varga character
the whole listening in on people's phone calls thing with the picture of Stalin in the background and people asking him whether he's british, which he doesn't answer, makes me think he's maybe east german? That would tie into the prologue of Ep 1. He also uses German words on multiple occasions (think he's said "Guten Tag" at one point, in Ep 4 he says "Schweinekoteletts", though woefully mispronounced).
 
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Goldmund

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dorn. said:
I think the whole "technology doesn't work for her" thing is going to tie into her dynamic with
V.M. Varga. In the last two episodes it was established that he uses technology to spy on people. Gloria being completely tech-illiterate is likely going to help her deal with him/staying hidden from him.

Also, regarding the Varga character
the whole listening in on people's phone calls thing with the picture of Stalin in the background and people asking him whether he's british, which he doesn't answer, makes me think he's maybe east german? That would tie into the prologue of Ep 1. He also uses German words on multiple occasions (think he's said "Guten Tag" at one point, in Ep 4 he says "Schweinekoteletts", though woefully mispronounced).
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Great catch, I missed making that connection.
 
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IggyChooChoo

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Goldmund said:
Great catch, I missed making that connection.
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Also given the Peter and the Wolf intro, the name "Varga" seems likely connected to the Old Norse word "vargr," which means wolf. I recall all the wolf imagery associated with Lorne Malvo (I remember thinking the name Lorne was meant to be associated with "lone"), so that feels like a tie-in. Anyway, V.M. Varga joins a proud tradition of unusual, unplaceable villain's names like Lorne Malvo, Anton Chigurh, and Reince Priebus.
 
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Cornballer

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As always, please don't use spoiler tags to discuss episodes that have already aired or speculation. They're just for talking about previews, interviews, etc... that cover content that hasn't aired yet. Thank you.
 
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BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
dorn. said:
I think the whole "technology doesn't work for her" thing is going to tie into her dynamic with
V.M. Varga. In the last two episodes it was established that he uses technology to spy on people. Gloria being completely tech-illiterate is likely going to help her deal with him/staying hidden from him.

Also, regarding the Varga character
the whole listening in on people's phone calls thing with the picture of Stalin in the background and people asking him whether he's british, which he doesn't answer, makes me think he's maybe east german? That would tie into the prologue of Ep 1. He also uses German words on multiple occasions (think he's said "Guten Tag" at one point, in Ep 4 he says "Schweinekoteletts", though woefully mispronounced).
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Awsome analysis. They seem, at this point, pretty far apart narratively. That should be an interesting cat and mouse scenario (VM vs. Gloria).
 
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Turin

Banned
So far I've been enjoying the characters but the show's been feeling very wound tight compared to the previous two. That's probably deliberate though.

I do like the apparent decision to make the shadier characters less sexy this time around.
 
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Ruruja

Member
There was a nice touch I noticed when Varga was talking to Stussy in his home office. Stussy starts in the 'Boss' seat at the desk and Varga in the 'customer' seat and at the end Varga is in the 'Boss' seat making Stussy sign papers in the 'customer' seat.
 
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StopMakingSense

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IggyChooChoo said:
Fair enough. I don't remember the movie Fargo feeling all that suspenseful, either. The plot felt to me like an excuse to have weird characters spout amusing, off-kilter dialogue in an odd corner of the world. Either you get caught up in it or you don't. I was always sort of surprised Fargo (the movie) got so much praise -- it seemed designed to annoy people who wanted a conventional crime story. But it's true this season is less tense than season one.
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This season is definitely the most "Fargo" season of Fargo.
 
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IggyChooChoo

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StopMakingSense said:
This season is definitely the most "Fargo" season of Fargo.
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This conversation is making me realize that the Coens do like to do little summation moments at the end of a lot of their movies where they question what the point of their stories are, like Marge at the end of Fargo and her "all for a little bit of money" speech, the dialogue at the end of Burn After Reading "what did we learn? Fucked if I know.", that dialogue at the end of Lebowski between the Dude and the narrator that concludes by breaking the 4th wall a bit and riding the line of either poking fun at the idea of a pat resokution and genuinely taking comfort in it. By comparison, the death of Lester Nygard feels almost moralistic and old-fashioned. I guess we'll see how this season compares soon enough.
 
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STILLethal

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I dont know...Ill finish watching all of this season but so far every episode is forgetful, its not interesting as season 1 or BCS.
Im hoping it picks up - but Im doubtful
 
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