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New Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers Switch previews, screens, details

Man this is one of the biggest bummers ever. I am tired of SFII and would never buy it again, but if this was a colelction of SFIII or Alpah? I'd be there day 1.

Why is SFII getting so much love? I didn't even like the original release of this remake/remaster.

Maybe I'll bite if under $10
 
HSF2 appreciation, VF avatar. You're my kind of people hikarutilmitt.

I go where I am needed.

And sometimes places I'm not needed. Or wanted. Or actively not wanted to be at.

That and, frankly, I'm kind of serious. I love ST even with its flaws (same as I love 3S) but HSF2 made so many good changes that kind of needed to be made, IMO, that I don't understand why it never went to become "the" SF2 game for tournaments. It doesn't quite do away with some of the series' more ridiculous things, but those are mostly engine-wide and changing them changes the game.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Well, I'm still waiting for a decent comparison of the PS4 and Switch versions of Disgaea... so until I figure out if I wanna get that, I'll probably just pick this up on Friday. I know it's overpriced. I don't care.
 
Man this is one of the biggest bummers ever. I am tired of SFII and would never buy it again, but if this was a colelction of SFIII or Alpah? I'd be there day 1.

Why is SFII getting so much love? I didn't even like the original release of this remake/remaster.

Maybe I'll bite if under $10

Street Fighter 3 got a re-release a few years ago.

I'd love to see Alpha though. There's -never- been an Alpha game with online other than the Japanese only Alpha 3 Dreamcast port.
 

foltzie1

Member
This game is going to bomb hard, and deservedly at that price point. What are they thinking*?

*
Assumed for the sake of argument.

After the sales of Super Bomberman R it isn't crazy to expect it to move some units at the current price.

USF2 might show up at some tournaments this year which might encourage some long tail sales.

They can always lower the price if it bombs.
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
SFIV 3D was on sale a lot so there is that. Hopefully that means maybe in 6 months many can pick it up for much cheaper digitally.
 

EmiPrime

Member
I go where I am needed.

And sometimes places I'm not needed. Or wanted. Or actively not wanted to be at.

That and, frankly, I'm kind of serious. I love ST even with its flaws (same as I love 3S) but HSF2 made so many good changes that kind of needed to be made, IMO, that I don't understand why it never went to become "the" SF2 game for tournaments. It doesn't quite do away with some of the series' more ridiculous things, but those are mostly engine-wide and changing them changes the game.

I think sadly those with the loudest voices didn't want to have to learn a new game and have their dominance challenged by new ideas and a new influx of people who were finally able to play an acceptable version of SF2 on a mainstream console instead of having to keep around a Dreamcast and a CD-R of SSF2X or be in an area with an active arcade scene.
 

Subaru

Member
Ok, I'm not buying it. I love Street Fighter, but this game is so expensive.
But the biggest problem isn't the price, but the content.

HSFII for PS2 have OST from CPS1, CPS2 or 3DO available - this version have only CPS2 and weird remixes.

The worst part for me is the sound effects, they are insanely bad. So the new style options isn't viable because the sound effects are shit. (in HSFII the sound effects were based on CPS-I if you choose a character version from SFII ~ SFIIT or CPS-II if its from SSFII or SSFIIT).

HSFII also had different styles for each character. Ok, this made the game unbalanced, but c'mon, instead of creating these two new characters that nobody asked, they could made alternative versions from each character (like KOF 98). Could be "Ultra" and "Classic" versions.

Boy, even the opening is trash, they used that classic Ryu sprite + a brand new Evil Ryu's ilustration that is new and not made in pixel art. This is bullshit, it's poor, it's just lazy.

The biggest problem for me is that I would play with old style (graphics + sound) all the time, and 40 dollars for this? no thanks.

(and I would be wishing playing with CPS-I OST).

=/
 
After the sales of Super Bomberman R it isn't crazy to expect it to move some units at the current price.

USF2 might show up at some tournaments this year which might encourage some long tail sales.

They can always lower the price if it bombs.

It's not crazy to expect that but I'm personally not optimistic. This one's got the smell of death about it. I'm not sure why a casual player would opt for this when they could get Minecraft, Thumper, or a bushel of SNK fighters for less. There's also high-end FG competition from Injustice 2 on competing platforms. I just don't see the hype for this one anywhere.

But yeah if they drop the price, it'll probably do all right in the end. I know I'll reconsider getting it. It's still SF2 at the end of the day.
 
I think sadly those with the loudest voices didn't want to have to learn a new game and have their dominance challenged by new ideas and a new influx of people who were finally able to play an acceptable version of SF2 on a mainstream console instead of having to keep around a Dreamcast and a CD-R of SSF2X or be in an area with an active arcade scene.

Those people didn't like the actual PS2 port of Super Turbo that came out a couple of years later either.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
After the sales of Super Bomberman R it isn't crazy to expect it to move some units at the current price.

USF2 might show up at some tournaments this year which might encourage some long tail sales.

They can always lower the price if it bombs.
Maybe USFII could get some side tournament action, but I wouldn't expect a major esports push for USFII with SFV still being a thing.
 

foltzie1

Member
It's not crazy to expect that but I'm personally not optimistic. This one's got the smell of death about it. I'm not sure why a casual player would opt for this when they could get Minecraft, Thumper, or a bushel of SNK fighters for less. There's also high-end FG competition from Injustice 2 on competing platforms. I just don't see the hype for this one anywhere.

But yeah if they drop the price, it'll probably do all right in the end. I know I'll reconsider getting it. It's still SF2 at the end of the day.

I'm not optimistic either, I think its too far past launch to get that heavy impulse buy push that Super Bomberman R did, but who knows.

I'll be happy to wait until a different price or a party that would benefit from SF2 action.

Maybe USFII could get some side tournament action, but I wouldn't expect a major esports push for USFII with SFV still being a thing.

Also fair, though I would assume side action would be a given since this is the only "newish" fighter available on Switch.
 

Neff

Member
This one's got the smell of death about it. I'm not sure why a casual player would opt for this when they could get Minecraft, Thumper, or a bushel of SNK fighters for less.

I wouldn't underestimate the appeal of the best Street Fighter game on a fast-selling new platform geared towards multiplayer. I do think it costs too much for what's included, though.

Even titans like KOF'98 and Garou are nothing compared to SFII when it comes to appealing to a broad audience.
 
I think sadly those with the loudest voices didn't want to have to learn a new game and have their dominance challenged by new ideas and a new influx of people who were finally able to play an acceptable version of SF2 on a mainstream console instead of having to keep around a Dreamcast and a CD-R of SSF2X or be in an area with an active arcade scene.
It's sad because there's still not really what most would consider a perfect port of ST. The DC version was kind of close, but even that had some weird crap in it.

Those people didn't like the actual PS2 port of Super Turbo that came out a couple of years later either.

The CCC2 version actually had lag, weird framerate issues at random times and other funkiness. Frankly, for casuals I don't care about them, but for tournament mode or being SUPER CEREAL about ST it's not a good version to use.

To be perfectly honest, I think the PS1 and Saturn ports of ST are pretty damned good. Most of the changes/bugs are incredibly minor and make them pretty playable. Then again, a lot of ports give Guile back his CPS1 chains, so I always wonder where they start these ports at.

The only way for us to get a truly perfect port of ST would be to basically rebuild it from the ground up. No emulation, no reporting from another "good" port. Flat out redo it with the right assets, measure everything, verify nothing funky happens. It's not impossible to do, but it would be an undertaking that wouldn't be worth the money they'd make back on it.
 

Cleve

Member
Me 3 months ago: I'll probably pick this up because I'll be starved for games

Me now: OMG I have so much to play I'm probably gonna pass

Anyone else feel similarly?

Yep, same here. I can't be bothered buying switch sticks (are there even any out yet?) and despite my love for ST, this just doesn't offer enough to stoke my interest for $40
 

antibolo

Banned
This game is going to bomb hard, and deservedly at that price point. What are they thinking*?

*
Assumed for the sake of argument.

Capcom gotta make up a convenient excuse for not supporting the Switch in the future.

"durr hurr switch owners didn't even buy fucking street fighter, clearly they only want nintendo games"
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Also fair, though I would assume side action would be a given since this is the only "newish" fighter available on Switch.
Even if it does get some side tournament action, I wouldn't expect Capcom to mention it all that much. They already have one, soon to be two, major modern fighting games to push in the competitive scene.

If any Switch fighting game(s) end up breaking into the FGC, it'll be the rumored Smash 4 Deluxe & possibly ARMS.
 

Felensis

Banned
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SHOORYUUKEN! (= Day 1)
 

oti

Banned
Capcom gotta make up a convenient excuse for not supporting the Switch in the future.

"durr hurr switch owners didn't even buy fucking street fighter, clearly they only want nintendo games"

Releasing SF2 isn't that bad of an idea. With all the NES, Zelda and Mario Kart nostalgia going on right now bundled with the handheld and sharable nature of the Switch it's a great fit. I just wish it wasn't 40€. The motion controls mode looks garbage and the two new characters are a joke. 20€ would have been a great of a price.

That said, I'm sure it will find its audience.
 
What's the best, latest Streetfighter game to get if SFV is a disappointment? My last game was Super Streetfighter IV. Is this, and Ultra SFIV worth it? Or is SFV worth a shot?
 

EmiPrime

Member
What's the best, latest Streetfighter game to get if SFV is a disappointment? My last game was Super Streetfighter IV. Is this, and Ultra SFIV worth it? Or is SFV worth a shot?

SFV is a great game hamstrung by interminable loading times and overpriced DLC.

The main game is dirt cheap, you should buy it.
 
Apparently the Australian release of this is going to be pretty limited (only EB and JB are stocking it). Pretty disappointing, especially since Nintendo themselves are distributing it here.

I've gotten too used to buying everything at Target on launch day for cheap >_>
 

Filter

Member
Well I'll be getting it.
Hopefully some other Aus/nz players get it too, and we can have some decent online matches and I can try to revive my old deejay (here's hoping the online is good).

Seems to me people just love to complain about anything street fighter, or capcom in general really.
 

The Hermit

Member
I am expecting bad reviews, like around 5-6.

Still buying

Definitely buying this.

Portable ST is something I"m up for.

Not only portable, but in a way you can play against a friend in any place.

The last time I played a local multiplayer in a portable game was Age of Empire II for the DS (it was amazing btw).
 
I'm getting this day one too. Amazon release day delivery. I'll be honest though, and some of you may call me crazy, but I'd be more excited if this was either SFII: The World Warriors or SFII: Championship Edition. Those were the two versions of the game I played most growing up. I began to lose interest in Turbo and Super (even though I had both for SNES).
 

Tizoc

Member
Ok, I'm not buying it. I love Street Fighter, but this game is so expensive.
But the biggest problem isn't the price, but the content.

HSFII for PS2 have OST from CPS1, CPS2 or 3DO available - this version have only CPS2 and weird remixes.

The worst part for me is the sound effects, they are insanely bad. So the new style options isn't viable because the sound effects are shit. (in HSFII the sound effects were based on CPS-I if you choose a character version from SFII ~ SFIIT or CPS-II if its from SSFII or SSFIIT).

HSFII also had different styles for each character. Ok, this made the game unbalanced, but c'mon, instead of creating these two new characters that nobody asked, they could made alternative versions from each character (like KOF 98). Could be "Ultra" and "Classic" versions.

Boy, even the opening is trash, they used that classic Ryu sprite + a brand new Evil Ryu's ilustration that is new and not made in pixel art. This is bullshit, it's poor, it's just lazy.

The biggest problem for me is that I would play with old style (graphics + sound) all the time, and 40 dollars for this? no thanks.

(and I would be wishing playing with CPS-I OST).

=/

Just an FYI, Hyper SF2 has a few changes from the OG Super Turbo-
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Hyper_Street_Fighter_2
One could still go ST vs. ST characters if they wanted, but even with the multiple versions it leads for a funky SF2 experience.
 
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