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American Gods |OT| You Had Me At Bryan Fuller - Sundays on Starz
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Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I'd guess that Media is being powered by Netflix. Same as how TV watching gives her more power. Now, like you pointed out, technology is often a means to access media these days. But I'm pretty Media still gets the love. They kinda tried to make that clear in this episode with Media being able to use Technical Boy's domain against him. It makes sense when you think about it. How many people actually care about the device itself? They just like what they can get out of it. Usually that's multimedia.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
It was definitely not taught in any school I went to or worked for. The most was maybe half a semester of English spent reading Greek text, but that's toe deep and was covered in less than a week of the college course I took dedicated to ancient mythology.
She definitely is. Her introduction to shadow she said something along the lines of 'now they hold small screens in their hands to watch so that they are not bored watching the big one'. Now I suppose she could be referring to Technical Boy by the small screen, but I don't get the feeling she would give him those props.
Actually that's a decent segue into something I was wondering when watching TB and Media's interactions. There appears to almost be some sort of spite between the two, where Media sees TB as young and arrogant and needs to be kept in check. And TB seems annoyed by Media's presence and willingness to carry out Mr. World's plans obediently. Maybe I am seeing something that isn't there, or reading too much into it, but it almost seems like social commentary on the current affairs of places on the Internet and their hatred for 'Mainstream Media', claiming they're part of some "(((globalist))) agenda". That definitely would cause an interesting dynamic within the New Gods faction.
Moff
Member
I thought about the whole different Jesus and Odin Gods because of their geographical location and it doesn't make sense to me.
I mean how would that work for media or technoboy, are there several of them as well? or if someone just likes to play games is there a gameboygod? why is media powered by everyone who likes media and jesus is different depending on each region of the world? doesn't make sense to me. I mean people don't even picture media as a goddess so how is she even a personification? so there are several different jesuses because people picture them differently? if I think jesus is a young female redhead willl I now power jesus but there is a jesus somethere how I picture her, just super impotent?
I don't buy it.
I mean how would that work for media or technoboy, are there several of them as well? or if someone just likes to play games is there a gameboygod? why is media powered by everyone who likes media and jesus is different depending on each region of the world? doesn't make sense to me. I mean people don't even picture media as a goddess so how is she even a personification? so there are several different jesuses because people picture them differently? if I think jesus is a young female redhead willl I now power jesus but there is a jesus somethere how I picture her, just super impotent?
I don't buy it.
Jag
Member
Was reading a review by Screenrant and they made a good point about Mr. World's offer to Wednesday.
It makes sense if looked at from a corporate perspective (which is what World is, the power of American multinational corporations). World was offering to buy Wednesday's brand to incorporate into his own (he called it a merger, but it was clearly an acquisition). He didn't destroy him because you don't destroy a brand that you intend to acquire. But you can weaken it a bit to make the acquisition easier.
It makes sense if looked at from a corporate perspective (which is what World is, the power of American multinational corporations). World was offering to buy Wednesday's brand to incorporate into his own (he called it a merger, but it was clearly an acquisition). He didn't destroy him because you don't destroy a brand that you intend to acquire. But you can weaken it a bit to make the acquisition easier.
Ethical Hedonism
Banned
Can we have a thread for series discussion with book spoilers? I don't know if there's enough material to warrant a new one tho.
I wanted to make a comment about last episode but I was gonna touch on some ending stuff.
People pray to and believe in a specific Jesus.
Worshipping a specific white Jesus and their media and technology are different.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Stunning episode.
I don't even care that the CG in the first scene looked like a low budget PS2 WRPG.
I don't even care that the CG in the first scene looked like a low budget PS2 WRPG.
Yep.
And it's easy to sense when an actor is having fun with their character, and I agree with the earlier poster who said Gillian Anderson seems to be having the time of her life. She's chewing the scenery every time she's on camera, and it's great. Hands down my favorite god, because she's exactly what I imagine a new god would be if such a being existed. Every time you see her she manifests as a twisted symbol of the thing she represents. It's great.
I was hooked by Crispin Glover the second he walked into the scene, as well.
Also shout out to Pablo, the father of my children. <3<3
Differing conceptions of Jesus evolved over thousands of years, most of which communication and transportation would have been severely limited even inside nations. Every culture imagined Jesus looked and acted like them, hence all the different Jesus'.
The things the New Gods represent aren't prone to that, they're far more ubiquitous thanks in part to globalisation (which Mr World represents). They haven't had thousands of years to develop distinct local flavours, in fact their very nature is to suppress that.
I'm guessing you'd have to do a bit more than that. Remember it took all that eye gouging and Viking killing, and a ship full of people burning alive to create Mr Wednesday and Mr Nancy. It's more than thinking about something it's a group of people giving something to an idea.
Woo-Fu
Banned
They don't need to teach myth, they need to teach the joys of reading. If you learn to like reading at a young age you will invariably run across all this stuff and/or stuff that builds upon it.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Mmm, I'm not sure why they went with CG not-really-human-looking characters in the opening scene. It couldn't have been cheaper than just hiring actors and putting them in a forest somewhere...(which would have looked 10x better)
Yeah this scene was very low budget and out of place to me. Would also have preferred just a regular scene filmed in some woods.
show me your skeleton
Member
can't wait for gillian anderson's scene as kim kardashian.
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
Yes. Loki can change his form into whatever he likes. I'm trying to remember if it even has to be a living thing - I can't remember offhand. But I recall him turning into various insects, a fish, a falcon (I think - it was a bird of prey at any rate), a giantess, and a female horse that later became pregnant and gave birth to Odin's horse.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Coraline is stop motion - this was ugly CG.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
It's a good thing you two aren't showrunners "Don't do that unique artistic expression thing! Lets make it a generic scene instead and film it with actors!"
It's pretty obvious why they did it, it was a tale lost through the ages, they were the humans that crossed the russia/alaska land bridge 20,000 years ago, literally pre-history. It would have been straight up comical (as it typically is) if they dressed some actors up in prehistoric makeup and garb. Think of it as a animated cave painting or something of the sort, it fits with the time period being depicted.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The art style was ugly, the animation was choppy, and the scene took away roles from Native actors. Also, the rest of the live action scenes in the show aren't generic, so why would the prehistoric stuff be?
There's a big difference between Coraline and whatever this was.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
The CGI was just a bit jarring and felt out of place but ultimately I'm fine with it and certainly wouldn't call it bad. I was sort of expecting some sort of reasoning behind the choice but don't really seem to see one.
Turin Turambar
Member
Coraline is stop motion yeah, and...?
The art style used in both are similar. It doesn't matter one is CGI and the other is stop motion.
Zoe
Member
Why is it more comical to put live action actors in the exact same makeup and costumes as the CG characters?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I liked the faux stop motion opening.
No you're dead right. It was intentional.
Yeah I did too, I don't get the hate for it. Thought it looked nice too.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
L+SD ratings
Episode 1 - 975K
Episode 2 - 710K
Episode 3 - 716K
Episode 4 - 631K
Episode 5 - 666K
Episode 1 - 975K
Episode 2 - 710K
Episode 3 - 716K
Episode 4 - 631K
Episode 5 - 666K
I prefer actual actors, but I thought the cg intro was fine too.
I got Mr. World. *thinkingface
I got Mr. World. *thinkingface
Rodney McKay
Member
I think I'd prefer to binge watch this show vs. one episode a week.
I like the show overall, but the individual episodes arent really doing much for me.
I like the show overall, but the individual episodes arent really doing much for me.
Admiral Woofington
Member
I mean the mad sweeney options are the most american. basically money.
I LIKE MONEY.
Was the Leprechaun born thanks to this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY1nYSELCSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY1nYSELCSo
Winterblink
Member
Gotta say, only Ian McShane could sell that little bit the crow so fucking well. It took me a good five minutes to stop giggling afterwarrds.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Mr. Ibis God of truth
Leona Lewis
Banned
I wonder if the "And this is the face you make when you masturbate" line was a reference to Shadow's actor's
masturbation tapes readily available on the Internet.
multiple
Lol yeah probably my favorite scene in the episode. The way he says "what?!" cracked me up.
Man, I finally got caught up on watching this show & for my tastes, this series is getting better & better. Episodes 4 & 5 have been my favorites so far, since I can actually make a good bit of sense of what's happening in the show and I feel like the plot is starting to actually move forward.
"You're An Asshole Dead Wife!" shoulda been the name of the episode lol
"You're An Asshole Dead Wife!" shoulda been the name of the episode lol
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Lol natives? You serious? You must not understand how vast an amount of time 20 friggin thousand years is, they didn't look like that then. We're talking about people that were surviving the ice age in asia they had more in common with asiatic eskimos or canadian aborigines than anything else, and somehow I don't exactly see anyone from either of those communities accepting casting calls.
What I was trying to say though is that filming prehistoric stuff is somewhat of a "don't" in hollywood, it's expensive as all hell to get right, and even when you do it right it's still fundamentally flawed in some way. The showrunners on the show circumvented the issue by giving it's animation background director an expressive animation project, and it worked out beautifully.
