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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread

Village

Member
Yeah that's fine and all but Darkstalkers?

Dark stalkers is the big the cat of Capcom.

Non one really cares about big the cat, but the people who work at Sega really care about big the cat. And will randomly just do weird bullshit with big the cat , because they like big the cat.

That's their weird hill that they will die on, every company has one.
 

kirblar

Member
Yeah that's fine and all but Darkstalkers?
If this is the rate at which they're going to pump out characters? Sure, why not! The game's roster will quickly be ginormous anyway, which would make having 6/21 Capcom Reps be DS reps not a big deal in the long run.
 

Dahbomb

Member
I really like the idea of doing themed DLC packs like that though.
It might work if they are doing the whole 4 seasons per year thing.

Man if that is actually true the roster might be enormous in 2 years.

DMC DLC - Nero, Vergil, Trish
Survival Horror DLC - Wecker, Jill, Regina
Darkstalkers DLC - Felicia, Hsien Ko, Talbain
Clover DLC - Gene, Amaterasu, Joe
Anime DLC - Phoenix Wright, Asura, Nina
Megaman DLC - Zero, Tron Bonne, Roll
 

Zaverious

Member
I refuse to believe that Capcom won't even make DLC interesting.

Then again Jill and Shuma unless you really want to count Ultimate...
 

Zaverious

Member
Reading the seasons thing, it's not so bad. It's just Darkstalkers and Street Fighter though? We get enough of them and you know it's just gonna bring back the ones that were already in the series before and maybe one newbie and probably not even the more interesting ones.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
That was when Sam was still a brand-new character. But I do hope that Capcom was allowed to make Rider the main. I do think Marvel has come around trying to shove Sam down everyone's throat, which is why they brought back Rider and stopped shoehorning Sam into everything.
I really hope you're right & that Capcom was allowed to make Richard Rider the default. But if Gazillion was able to for Marvel Heroes, maybe there's hope for MvCI. And yeah, Marvel has dialed it back on the Sam push.
 

fr0st

Banned
Fuck dlc characters.

Stages costumes custom life/super bars whatever are ok but please no more charters locked behind a pay wall
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Fuck dlc characters.

Stages costumes custom life/super bars whatever are ok but please no more charters locked behind a pay wall
DLC characters are just a fact of life when it comes to fighting games (see NRS games, ASW games, even the likes of Smash & Tekken). But if that post is accurate, I do agree that the amount of DLC for MvCI would be a bit excessive within a short amount of time.
 

Tirael

Member
I scanned the thread and didn't see this, I still need to get caught up, but I have to get this out.

With Ultron as an Avengers villain, literally half of the Marvel side is Avengers. Yes, many of them are popular in their own right. Yes, many of them have had their own standalone movies. Yes, they're very successful.

But you can't defend this.

Half of the Marvel side is Avengers.

Literally half. No rounding. Seven of fourteen.

Get out of here.
 

kirblar

Member
I scanned the thread and didn't see this, I still need to get caught up, but I have to get this out.

With Ultron as an Avengers villain, literally half of the Marvel side is Avengers. Yes, many of them are popular in their own right. Yes, many of them have had their own standalone movies. Yes, they're very successful.

But you can't defend this.

Half of the Marvel side is Avengers.

Literally half. No rounding. Seven of fourteen.

Get out of here.
All the characters bar Nova (and the Nova Corps have been in the movies) are MCU. Marvel views this first and foremost as a promotional vehicle and made sure their babies were first in line.
 
I scanned the thread and didn't see this, I still need to get caught up, but I have to get this out.

With Ultron as an Avengers villain, literally half of the Marvel side is Avengers. Yes, many of them are popular in their own right. Yes, many of them have had their own standalone movies. Yes, they're very successful.

But you can't defend this.

Half of the Marvel side is Avengers.

Literally half. No rounding. Seven of fourteen.

Get out of here.
If really wanna be technical. Only Ultron, Thanos, Gamora, and Rocket aren't some kind of Avengers
 

Renkax

Member
Sorry if off topic even though it's Marvel vs capcom related but is there a website where I can get the mods for UMVC3?
 

Tirael

Member
If really wanna be technical. Only Ultron, Thanos, Gamora, and Rocket aren't some kind of Avengers

Ultron is an Avengers villain, and Thanos is often, but not exclusively an Avengers villain. But I totally see your point, and that's disgusting.

I absolutely support DLC characters, that's one of the big things that stopped MvC3 just short of INCREDIBLE. As it stands, what they did was miracle work, and I applaud them.

Now, the issue is, it only makes good business sense to make DLC characters that people will actually buy. Be that returning fan favorites, long-requested new characters, what have you. Characters from tiny, dead franchises like Asura's Wrath and God Hand are not going to be bought by the majority of people. Yes, Asura and Gene are absolutely made for MvC, and it's a travesty if they don't make it in. But characters like that need to be in the base roster, so people can see that they fit without having to pay money, and they'll actually make the effort to purchase Wesker, Vergil, Magneto, Dr. Doom, Sentinel, Akuma, Strider, the list goes on and on and on.

That is very concerning to me. More than anything, I wanted either Gene or Asura to make it in, and with the way they're going about it makes me think they don't have a chance.
 

Compbros

Member
I scanned the thread and didn't see this, I still need to get caught up, but I have to get this out.

With Ultron as an Avengers villain, literally half of the Marvel side is Avengers. Yes, many of them are popular in their own right. Yes, many of them have had their own standalone movies. Yes, they're very successful.

But you can't defend this.

Half of the Marvel side is Avengers.

Literally half. No rounding. Seven of fourteen.

Get out of here.


Imagine how I feel about batman characters in Injustice. At least with Avengers it's almost impossible to not have a large amount of marvel to not be an avenger or affiliated
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
The roster is objectively terrible.

-Only 28 characters, a series low since MVC1.
-6 DLC, which will have to be paid for separately. These are the actual new characters and assets being charged for when they should be in the base game
-Reused (almost 100% reused) character assets AND a low character count means there are going to be huge problems with the base game. This is pure rushed of the door laziness
-Less than half are actually new, as in made from the ground up and not reusing assets
-MCU focus means the legacy of the series isn't even represented.
-Capcom side is just as pathetic, why GnG got 2 reps in a 14 man lineup makes no sense. On top of Jill and Wesker losing out to Nemisis. These aren't even new characters, they'll be reused assets as well.
-Lack of women and people of color. Could have been alleviated just resusing assets from MVC3.
-Lack of fan favorites on BOTH sides.

It's fucking awful for many reasons for many people.

Again, legitimate points here. Notable exceptions include the one about reused assets, because that's always a stupid ass complaint, and that there are still fan favourites on both sides by the boatland, just not all of your fan favourites. And that's part of my point, it's an all-or-nothing criticism that is being applied. This impression that there's nothing of worth currently of there because suddenly including Spidey and co. counts for nothing when the givens like Deadpool or Ms. Marvel aren't in there? Spare me.

When almost half of Marvel's comics are marketed towards female readers and your game only has 2 playable Marvel female characters, that looks really bad. This isn't 90s or mid-2000s Marvel. This is 2017 Marvel.

I don't disagree. This is also Marvel, though.

This game ain't for casuals because Wolverine not being there is the biggest no no. Wolverine is more popular and recognizable than anyone on the Marvel side of the roster and there isn't a close second.
Tell that to the several MCU-only (at least at the start) Marvel games on mobile platforms that have been making Marvel games more money than ever.

Again, people that need X-Men are the minorities. Not ever consumer does a literal pre-order cancel upon finding out there isn't all these characters that haven't been alongside these other characters in games for years. Whether that sentiment exists in MvC fans specifically is up for speculation.

This is old, but I didn't read that bit about them not being launch characters necessarily (and I find it pretty shaky that they corrected themselves afterwards to say they're not talking about launch necessarily).

I don't even believe Capcom is capable of that aggressive of a DLC plan, if I'm honest. 4 seasons a year would be great and probably everything everyone wanted with post-launch support for MvC3, but in that case the game should really launch at a lower pricepoint.

But yeah, I guess the 2019 MvC:I digital deluxe edition will be the greatest MvC of all time for people? And expensive as fuck.
 
Demitri will have a different super then, because I his supper IIRC is why he isnt in MVC in the first place

He has plenty of other supers outside of Midnight Bliss. There's also nothing actually stating that Midnight Bliss is what stops him from getting into crossovers, but a lot of people expect him to have it, and it would be a lot of extra work for not that much pay off
 
If we talking about Darkstalkers, Demitiri should be DLC then. Get my favorite Project X Zone duo in this.
Yeah, if a Darkstalkers character should be included, Demitri could be one of them. Morrigan & Demitri (a la PxZ) must happen.
Yes yes yeeeeees. I loved Demitri thanks to PxZ (loved his interactions with Dante and Morrigan as well). Was dissapointed to learn he wasn't featured as playable in most Capcom crossovers. This needs to happen.
Demitri will have a different super then, because I his supper IIRC is why he isnt in MVC in the first place
Midnight Bliss IIRC.
Oh, really? They didn't include that part of Midnight Bliss in the PxZ games and it was fine. Either way, go for it Capcom!
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Is there any precedence for a retail, $60 game that's had a poor launch but has accumulated a community and commercial success via microtransactions and DLC?

SFV perhaps but we don't even really know besides the fact that they're still investing in it (and fans seem sort of happy with the content)?

I'm rolling my eyes at aggressive DLC plans when/if MvC:I bombs at retail. Wouldn't be surprised at the strategy Riku described, though. People, including me, will probably pay. In general, I'm reaaaaaaaaaally skeptical that games can make up for lost ground for poor launches with DLC and sales down the road. At least it never works that way for the games with the biggest communities.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
Is there any precedence for a retail, $60 game that's had a poor launch but has accumulated a community and commercial success via microtransactions and DLC?

SFV perhaps but we don't even really know besides the fact that they're still investing in it (and fans seem sort of happy with the content)?

I'm rolling my eyes at aggressive DLC plans when/if MvC:I bombs at retail. Wouldn't be surprised at the strategy Riku described, though. People, including me, will probably pay. In general, I'm reaaaaaaaaaally skeptical that games can make up for lost ground for poor launches with DLC and sales down the road. At least it never works that way for the games with the biggest communities.

Only game I can think of is Rainbow Six: Siege. The launch wasn't all that great but things got better and it has a dedicated fanbase. However the DLC being free helped with that (You can still pay for skins and early access to heroes and other things). Fighters there doesn't seem to be any, though Killer Instinct seems to have the best free mode now that they rotate the free characters more often.
 
Is there any precedence for a retail, $60 game that's had a poor launch but has accumulated a community and commercial success via microtransactions and DLC?

SFV perhaps but we don't even really know besides the fact that they're still investing in it (and fans seem sort of happy with the content)?

I'm rolling my eyes at aggressive DLC plans when/if MvC:I bombs at retail. Wouldn't be surprised at the strategy Riku described, though. People, including me, will probably pay. In general, I'm reaaaaaaaaaally skeptical that games can make up for lost ground for poor launches with DLC and sales down the road. At least it never works that way for the games with the biggest communities.

Honestly can't think of any games off the top of my head. Most that end up become successful through MTs and DLC still have fairly decent openings.

Edit: ^ Jaw, I was thinking of Siege too but I think I'd consider that as a decent opening rather than a bad/poor one. It sold decently in its launch month and had good legs almost immediately. I can see the argument the other way too though, so that does seem like a good example.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
MvC:I will be at D23 in July. There's only so much time between now and release but June and July are packed with announcement opportunities, and D23 is one of the more likely ones even if it's close to EVO.

Hopefully we get the real important announcements - some damn key art so I can start working on the OT.
 

Lulubop

Member
MvC:I will be at D23 in July. There's only so much time between now and release but June and July are packed with announcement opportunities, and D23 is one of the more likely ones even if it's close to EVO.

Hopefully we get the real important announcements - some damn key art so I can start working on the OT.

SDCC will be where the real shit drops, it's always a big event for Capcom (UMvC and SFxT were both revealed their.)
 
A DLC plan like that for a full price game just seems like poor business practice IMO. With this lackluster of a roster (not saying its horrible, but it is definitely disappointing), there will likely be alot of people who just plain don't buy this game from the start.

Haven't paid attention to SFV at all due to how Capcom handled it, is that title doing well sales-wise?
 
Yeah that information is old, and all the guy did was change his info to now coincide with Ryce's leak. I dont know who this guy is or why does he keep going on with that fake leak...
 

J-Tier

Member
there are quite a lot of events starting with E3 then we still have D23, EVO, SDCC, Gamescom, NYCC, TGS and PSX.

I wonder how much there really is to reveal? I'm sure they'll go over other stones and stuff and probably story too. I can't imagine they'll be making too many reveals for characters, unless they start jumping into DLC.
 
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