That, and exchange rates aren't exactly helping either.We dreamed high before it came time to make real estimates.
That, and exchange rates aren't exactly helping either.We dreamed high before it came time to make real estimates.
Hasn't it already outgrossed the last Spider-Man film?
Movie probably just isn't that good. Looks like all this will get compared to the ASM movies is the MCU bump.
Movie probably just isn't that good. Looks like all this will get compared to the ASM movies is the MCU bump.
Hasn't it already outgrossed the last Spider-Man film?
Rob Cain needs to leave the Box Office stuff to Scott Mendelsson over at Forbes.
This drop doesn't mean anything out of the ordinary.
Lot of movies do well on RT. Nearly all the MCU movies do very well on RT. But drops speak louder, especially when such a high percentage doesn't seem to matter or help performance.
By what metric is this movie "just not that good"? Both critics and moviegoers really enjoyed it.
And no, this movie will not be compared to the ASM films. You're letting your DC fanboyism cloud your judgement.
Lot of movies do well on RT. Nearly all the MCU movies do very well on RT. But drops speak louder, especially when such a high percentage doesn't seem to matter or help performance.
Spider-Man prints money. If the movie stood out, it would hold better. Just seems like an average outing instead.
Maybe critically, it made a billion dollars.
Movie probably just isn't that good. Looks like all this will get compared to the ASM movies is the MCU bump.
Lot of movies do well on RT. Nearly all the MCU movies do very well on RT. But drops speak louder, especially when such a high percentage doesn't seem to matter or help performance.
Spider-Man prints money. If the movie stood out, it would hold better. Just seems like an average outing instead.
Civil War dropped 59%.
This drop is nothing to write DOOM clickbait titles or question a good movie's quality.
People can make all the excuses they want, making "middle of Marvel pack money" is not the result Sony wanted.
Not saying it's DOOM worthy at all, just meh territory.Civil War dropped 59%.
This drop is nothing to write DOOM clickbait titles or question a good movie's quality.
And you're basing this all on a drop that's equal to other drops.
The people who have seen the movie have said how great it is, you have to be so far remove from reality to actually think that this movie's critical reception has been "average" because it has been anything but.
There's really no other explanation than the movie probably just not being that good.
That has nothing to do with the movie's quality.
Nope, literally no other explanation. Transformers? Actually some of the best movies ever made, you disagree? Look at how much money it made.
Judging a movie's quality based off how much it made at the BO is lunacy.
I'd argue that a Spider-Man film Fflint average Marvel business perhaps suggests it's not the film the casual audience wanted.
And Homecoming is loved by people who have seen it. On Gaf, Twitter, Reddit and real life, I've only come across a handful of people who haven't liked it.Word of mouth is a thing.
I was going to say I wouldn't be surprised if it took the top spot next week back from Apes but then Dunkirk comes out. That's just some rough competition to be stacked up against. Wonder if it would have been better to be the last blockbuster of the summer rather then the spot they are in.
Or maybe the third reboot in 10 years in the franchise has an uphill battle to win back audiences and it being really good helped it outgross it's predecessor in just 2 weeks?
It amazes me that people think it's okay for the first MCU Spider-Man film, featuring RDJ, to lose top place second weekend to an apes film.
I mean I'm glad it did because SMH was pretty mediocre, but it's genuinely jaw dropping that it couldn't hold the line for even two weeks.
Apes under-performed though.Apes is being build up as some masterpiece, the greatest trilogy of all time. Shouldn't be that surprising. Spidey will have much longer legs especially if it is viewed as a quality film. After Atomic Blonde and the Emoji film August is pretty empty, Spider-Man may not drop below 2nd place just based on the amount of nothing in its path.
People can make all the excuses they want, making "middle of Marvel pack money" is not the result Sony wanted.
Sony wasn't going to do ASM3 regardless, the lead kissed them off and jumped ship so they were going to do spin offs and maybe another reboot.It's the result Sony more than likely expected. The other options here were to reboot again without Marvel, or to go ahead and do ASM3 and the Sinister Six. Given Sony's general inability to reign in budgets, we would have been looking either way at a movie that cost more than $200 million (both ASM movies were above that), which is more than this movie cost by about $20-50 million or so. At best, going ahead with ASM3 would have probably gotten them something around a DOFP to Apocalypse level drop (the same 28% drop worldwide puts you at $514 million without accounting for the value of the dollar going down, or if you want to put your focus on domestic the 34% drop there puts you at around $134 million). A non-Marvel reboot gives people no reason to trust the team behind it, and unless a miracle happened at best probably gives then the same numbers they got from ASM1 ($260M domestic, $500M WW with 2012 exchange rates that Kswis can translate to 2017 if he feels like it). Homecoming is going to make more money than both of those options. while costing less. There's very, very little chance that Sony is unhappy with the amount of money this movie is going to make. Would they have liked it to make more? Sure, they'd love for every movie they make to make more money, but that doesn't mean that they're unhappy with what, as someone else said, will probably be their best grossing movie of the past 5 years.
Perhaps the movie wasn't as fun, exciting and funny as critics, RT made it out to be?
Perhaps the whole high school drama version wasn't the right vision to proceed with, if you want to pull in your audience and have them come back to keep watching it more than once?
But I thought that was the definition of Oscar bait...So it's the opposite of BvS, this movie was for the critics, but not the fans! /s
Sony wasn't going to do ASM3 regardless, the lead kissed them off and jumped ship so they were going to do spin offs and maybe another reboot.
Nope, literally no other explanation. Transformers? Actually some of the best movies ever made, you disagree? Look at how much money it made.
Judging a movie's quality based off how much it made at the BO is lunacy.
Perhaps the movie wasn't as fun, exciting and funny as critics, RT made it out to be?
Perhaps the whole high school drama version wasn't the right vision to proceed with, if you want to pull in your audience and have them come back to keep watching it more than once?
Despite liking ASM I guess going with Marvel was the best option. However doing another high school origin story just without uncle Ben and spiderbite was stupid.It's the result Sony more than likely expected. The other options here were to reboot again without Marvel, or to go ahead and do ASM3 and the Sinister Six. Given Sony's general inability to reign in budgets, we would have been looking either way at a movie that cost more than $200 million (both ASM movies were above that), which is more than this movie cost by about $20-50 million or so. At best, going ahead with ASM3 would have probably gotten them something around a DOFP to Apocalypse level drop (the same 28% drop worldwide puts you at $514 million without accounting for the value of the dollar going down, or if you want to put your focus on domestic the 34% drop there puts you at around $134 million). A non-Marvel reboot gives people no reason to trust the team behind it, and unless a miracle happened at best probably gives then the same numbers they got from ASM1 ($260M domestic, $500M international with 2012 exchange rates that Kswis can translate to 2017 if he feels like it). Homecoming is going to make more money than both of those options. while costing less. There's very, very little chance that Sony is unhappy with the amount of money this movie is going to make. Would they have liked it to make more? Sure, they'd love for every movie they make to make more money, but that doesn't mean that they're unhappy with what, as someone else said, will probably be their best grossing movie (and possibly their most profitable) of the past 5 years.
Not saying it's DOOM worthy at all, just meh territory.A Spider-Man movie that might just hover around $300M is average, especially with the MCU bump. There's really no other explanation than the movie probably just not being that good.
Hasn't it already outgrossed the last Spider-Man film?
It's dead jim.Serious question: Is Marvel done? Is this the end of the line? Could Disney be regretting their purchase already? Is Sony going to sell Spider-man to Fox in exchange for Cyclops?
*heavy breathing*
Serious question: Is Marvel done? Is this the end of the line? Could Disney be regretting their purchase already? Is Sony going to sell Spider-man to Fox in exchange for Cyclops?
*heavy breathing*
After Black Panther comes out, they're cancelling the entire thing, sorry to say.
Lol at the posts from those with DC avatars.