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Moore's Law Is Dead Claims To Have Received Insider Information About the PlayStation 5 That is Amazing If It's True
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cragarmi
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Cerny has previously worked on Resistance, don't think he had any prior involvement with Socom.
geordiemp
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Discuss the points, not the person.
The New geometery engine was briefly mentioned by Cerny in road to ps5, just nobody listened
Cerny has patents on an improved VRS for sectioned priority rendering but mainly for VR, so likely highly custom. But RDNA2 is not out = custom meaning RDNA3 is a bit silly.
So it is likely GE in Ps5 is very unique, but the comments about relative performance is reaching, all you can say is its likely different to PC /. XSX for now
God of war is likley, anyone can guess that.
ps5 manufacturing started in June, so Sony would have had to make serious changes to supply and test well in advance o fJune for any of the hardware changes to be true. Technically possible, commercially unlikely.
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Md Ray
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See, PS5's memory runs at 14 Gbps with a 256-bit memory interface for 448 GB/s of bandwidth. The post mentions 16 Gbps to 18 Gbps. If it was 16 Gbps then it would have given the console 512 GB/s of bandwidth with 256-bit. So I call BS on that one. The 38 CUs claim also seems like another BS.
DrScissorsMD
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No, bruh, just no. To echo others, would love for it to be true, but let’s be clear here;
He’s suggesting multiple hardware/software component bumps (one going so far as to skip from RDNA2 to RDNA3), his proof is literally “these things that just got revealed, I knew about them months ago, trust me”, and the timing is immediately after a massive console war pile-on from the average at best Xbox showing?
Please at least try to think critically. This ain’t it, chief.
He’s suggesting multiple hardware/software component bumps (one going so far as to skip from RDNA2 to RDNA3), his proof is literally “these things that just got revealed, I knew about them months ago, trust me”, and the timing is immediately after a massive console war pile-on from the average at best Xbox showing?
Please at least try to think critically. This ain’t it, chief.
I'm beginning to literally hate insiders. They hype stuff up to levels that just make impressive things look unimpressive.
the PS5 showcase event was supposed to be extremely impressive according to guys like Shinobi and NateDrake. I was damn disappointed in the end.
Halo Infinite was supposed to look next-gen and beautiful according to virtually all insiders. We know now that that is not true.
I will wait for the August event to judge for myself. I also believe this guy is full of lies. Fable was the worst kept secret in the industry. Any "source" could have predicted that game coming up. It, simply put, doesn't validate that "source".
the PS5 showcase event was supposed to be extremely impressive according to guys like Shinobi and NateDrake. I was damn disappointed in the end.
Halo Infinite was supposed to look next-gen and beautiful according to virtually all insiders. We know now that that is not true.
I will wait for the August event to judge for myself. I also believe this guy is full of lies. Fable was the worst kept secret in the industry. Any "source" could have predicted that game coming up. It, simply put, doesn't validate that "source".
Pallas
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Sounds like “power of the cell” shit. I don’t doubt it’s a impressive system but cmon ...
Pallas
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Nah, just overall better developer studios with Sony at the moment, plus that Microsoft show didn’t show much gameplay, so it’s hard to gauge what truly next gen Xbox series X only games will look like.Idk about all this but what I do know is the gameplay tht was showed at Sony's presentation was infinitely better than the very little that was shown at Microsoft's and I don't think thts just due to Microsoft being held back by Xbox one. Ppl keep downplaying PS5's efficiency and modifications as if it doesn't matter, you shall see
GlassAwful
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Sure but thermals are proportional to power draw and the thing was PS5 design was supposed to be constant or deterministic power draw profiles capped by an assumed TDP vs cooling performance.
The only leeway is the overhead you talk about but thats playing with fire in a design that isn't accounting for the ambient temperature of the console (they want a constant low audible fan speed) which is where I'd expect most of the overhead is relying on to work. You eat into the overhead and your eating into the ambient temperatures you can reliably run the console in without overtemping.
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Tqaulity
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First, I don't think the spec bumps are happening but...I wouldn't totally rule it out. It's entirely possible that Sony released the "lower" baseline specs back in March knowing full well that they were aiming higher. It always looks better to under-spec and over-deliver than vise versa. The biggest impact of any of those specs would be the memory bandwidth bump. I hope that one at least is true. The extra CUs and 100Mhz CPU increase would have minimal impact at best.
In terms of the mystery reboot, I believe that it will be one of the following (in order of probability):
1. Jak and Daxter - Cerny worked on the original for PS2 as well...and let's not forget the clue during the Road to PS5 when he referenced Jak II (seemed pretty random at the time huh?)
2. Socom - been rumored for a while. Now would be a good time. PS4 would have held back some of the ambition for a modern Socom
3. Siphon Filter - been rumored since the PS3 days. I think they are waiting for the right time and right hardware to deliver to true leap. When you think about, the stealth genre has virtually disappeared this past generation...hmmm
4. Twisted Metal - tried to bring it back on PS3 but it didn't do well. Still potential in this franchise and one of the PlayStation's biggest sellers back in the day. But they already have Destruction All Stars and this genre has been all but dead for a while now
In terms of the mystery reboot, I believe that it will be one of the following (in order of probability):
1. Jak and Daxter - Cerny worked on the original for PS2 as well...and let's not forget the clue during the Road to PS5 when he referenced Jak II (seemed pretty random at the time huh?)
2. Socom - been rumored for a while. Now would be a good time. PS4 would have held back some of the ambition for a modern Socom
3. Siphon Filter - been rumored since the PS3 days. I think they are waiting for the right time and right hardware to deliver to true leap. When you think about, the stealth genre has virtually disappeared this past generation...hmmm
4. Twisted Metal - tried to bring it back on PS3 but it didn't do well. Still potential in this franchise and one of the PlayStation's biggest sellers back in the day. But they already have Destruction All Stars and this genre has been all but dead for a while now
Gamernyc78
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We've been hearing this for over a decade. Alot of variables but nahhhh I stand on what I'm saying. But I do agree Sony's first party devs are just better pound for pound overall.
Roronoa Zoro
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Cerny seems to like platformers so here's hoping for Jak or Sly
Roronoa Zoro
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It's always amazed me that there's never been another big car combat game. Like that was an awesome concept and with online play it could be truly spectacular and competitive
Rick Dangerous
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I don't believe it but i wish it was true.
Now that i know for sure my next gen console of choice.
Problem is saving for a 75x950h...suddenly the consoke looks cheap !
Now that i know for sure my next gen console of choice.
Problem is saving for a 75x950h...suddenly the consoke looks cheap !
Gamernyc78
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I'd like a Mag or Resistance to come back but no thy don't need one we've had tons of great third party fps games filling tht gap New COD, Doom, Metro plus ftp ones tht dominate like Apex and others.
FearlessBelgian
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No, Knack 3 incoming. Lol
geordiemp
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Not with GG making HZD2, I would of guessed Resistance but thats Insomniac and they are making spiderman and Ratchet.
Must be something like Jak or even knack lol.
sircaw
Banned
I would not mind a Jak game, that would be ace on next gen.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol Dont do this to yourself people. This guy has a bad track record. The PS5 specs are locked.
I get it. its tempting. but dont fall for it.
I get it. its tempting. but dont fall for it.
sircaw
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never played them but i know the resistance games are highly regarded.
the_master
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What a pile of lies.
Nome of his claims have ANYTHING to do with the things he says he heared about the xbox event.
Now it is very easy to get the hype on ps5 after the xbox event but who tells us that guerrilla devs are now at home being thankful that they did not show any gameplay cause it happened like Halo infinite. Great in emgine trailer and disappointing during gameplay.
We have seen almost nothing on both consoles. Get ready for more disappointments
Nome of his claims have ANYTHING to do with the things he says he heared about the xbox event.
Now it is very easy to get the hype on ps5 after the xbox event but who tells us that guerrilla devs are now at home being thankful that they did not show any gameplay cause it happened like Halo infinite. Great in emgine trailer and disappointing during gameplay.
We have seen almost nothing on both consoles. Get ready for more disappointments
Gamernyc78
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Sony hype isn't made off one presentation but off of decades of goty winners, contenders and awesome games. Last two months I just played tlou2 and Got and Sony keeps tht quality through generations. Idk what your referring to about Killzone but Killzone on PS4 looked like it's presentation. Campaign was meh but mp was great BTW. Barring gameplay in Halo the visuals looked dated and not next Gen when killzone released it looked next Gen by far.
Excuses for Halo are like the excuses as Crackdown 3 got closer. It went from omg you saw tht destruction shown on a high end pc to crickets when game released.
Why wouldn't ppl believe the Sony hype? They've earned it and consistently deliver, you can't act like Microsoft should get tht same benefit lol two totally diff situations. As Sony consumers they have nothing to worry about I can go in blind and know the next Naughty, Sucker Punch, Guerilla, etc will be eye candy ab
Nd good.
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sircaw
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Fs it pains me when you come across so well thought out.
Destroys my plans of calling your a meat head with all those damn muscles.
Sigh.
Actually RDNA 1 rumour had more with what happened on someone who works for Sony, but trying to bait fanboy war I see.
This is just nonsense, stop.
Gamernyc78
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Fs it pains me when you come across so well thought out.
Destroys my plans of calling your a meat head with all those damn muscles.
Sigh.
Fuck u bro 
sircaw
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SentientStone
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I predict Twisted Metal reboot based on the life of Charles Manson, but with cars killing people instead of people killing people.
Made by Cerny, but the project was originally called Knack 3 before it got changed into Twisted Metal: Charles Manson.
Made by Cerny, but the project was originally called Knack 3 before it got changed into Twisted Metal: Charles Manson.
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Venom Snake
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It looks like Knack 3 turned out to be really demanding.
LordOfChaos
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I always pondered this possibility when it came out that the PS5 was lower in Tflops than the Series X, but never posted it as a serious theory because it would come off as fanboy dreaming. But this would be interesting if true. Kind of mindful of the XBO last minute overclock, but hey, a 5.5% bonus is something, assuming it lets the boost clocks stay where they used to be.
If the other advantages are also true, they need to start talking about them rather than letting narratives run away with a few leakers catching the points.
PleaseWaitStation4
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Anyone who claims Moore's Law is dead is trying to sell you something.
Investor9872
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My bet is on Resistance or Spyro the Dragon, since Mark Cerny has worked on those franchises before.
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Pallas
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If you think he’s telling the truth than Cerny would had undoubtedly talked about “RDNA3” features. I mean you can believe it if you want, but that doesn’t make it true.
the_master
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This is not even hype, it is a false rumor.
And no, I won't blindly believe anyone's hype. I may feel the hype, follow the hype, hype others, but I am always ready for disappointment.
Sony has made great games, Ms has made great games and nintendo and sega also made great games.
Most games are multiplatform by the way, so a company does not guarantee quality in all cases.
After the xbox disastrous event, think about why sony also didn't show gameplay for its games except for ratchet (wich already was nothing like the cinematic gameplay pretend from the beginning of crazy world swapping)
We have seen close to 0 real gameplay on both consoles. They are not ready for launch, they may launch regardless. Expect some disapointments at launch.
Also expect great games and better games later on.
TheCrimsnFuckr
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This is kind of a bullshit "scoop." How the hell would a person have knowledge of both an Xbox showcase AND Sony's Hardware AND Sony's software strategy AND know how third party developers have been handling PS5?
Also, the whole "Sony might change the system to have 38 CUs and not 36" statement is such bullshit and Sony would in no ways do that after the consoles have already begun production, and since supposedly the PS4 backwards compatibility revolves around the 36CUs, I also don't think they would do that.
Also, the whole "Sony might change the system to have 38 CUs and not 36" statement is such bullshit and Sony would in no ways do that after the consoles have already begun production, and since supposedly the PS4 backwards compatibility revolves around the 36CUs, I also don't think they would do that.
SentientStone
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LordOfChaos
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Whether this rumor is true or not, I never really bought that their API was so un-portable that the GPU would need to have the exact CU count for BC. Just like the Pro could disable half for unpatched games, it should be able to write off CUs at the OS and API layer so that the chip doesn't need exactly 36 CUs for BC. This was always just theorycraft from similar people behind the no RT rumors and so on.
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vpance
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If they end up bumping perf then it’s basically a similar situation to X1 launch. As in the hardware had enough TDP headroom and adequate cooling for them to do it.
We can only speculate what the impact would be, but IMO I think they over-engineered the thing. It’s a lot bigger than I expected, so I think they could easily bump it slightly given the current spec.
Tripolygon
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Some good questions to ask yourself when it comes to these "rumors" is
How likely is it that one person not super high up in the company to have all these information?
If the answer is not very likely then it is not true
Does it sound too good to be true?
If the answer is yes then it is likely not true.
Is the rumor being spread on Youtube by the people who have not gotten anything right?
If the answer is yes then it is likely not true
How likely is it that one person not super high up in the company to have all these information?
If the answer is not very likely then it is not true
Does it sound too good to be true?
If the answer is yes then it is likely not true.
Is the rumor being spread on Youtube by the people who have not gotten anything right?
If the answer is yes then it is likely not true
