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Ridley Scott's Prometheus Trailer

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Zzoram

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How can it not be a reboot if it's a prequel that involves them meeting aliens? Wasn't the encounter in the movie Alien supposed to be the first encounter with any sort of non-human life?
 
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Suairyu

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Zzoram said:
Wasn't the encounter in the movie Alien supposed to be the first encounter with any sort of non-human life?
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Supposed. Giving that Weyland-Yutani orchestrated the entire thing there was the distinct possibility they'd encountered the Xenomorph before.

At the very least, they already knew of that one particular spaceship's existence.
 
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TheJollyCorner

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Zzoram said:
Wasn't the encounter in the movie Alien supposed to be the first encounter with any sort of non-human life?
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I don't recall that.
In both Alien and ALIENS it seemed to me like it wasn't uncommon finding other sources of life in the universe, i.e. Hudson refers to 'another bug hunt'. Unfortunately for the crew of the Nostromo, any previous xenomorph encounter (if there had been one) was completely classified.

Ash seemed to know to an extent what they were getting into/why they honed in on the beacon, which is why he goes out of his way to bypass quarantine to get the organism on the ship (despite Ripley doing everything she could to follow protocol). Seemed like direct orders from his handlers; i.e. Weyland Corp.
 
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Suairyu

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See that's one thing that I didn't like about Aliens - "just another bug hunt" - like meeting extra-terrestrials was an everyday occurrence. Even after multiple re-watches, I still get the impression that in Alien the crew thinks they're the first to ever encounter signs of biologically advanced non-terrestrial life. They don't ever state that, of course, but their reactions and behaviors seem to suggest it to me.
 
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bobs...onGaf

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Suairyu said:
See that's one thing that I didn't like about Aliens - "just another bug hunt" - like meeting extra-terrestrials was an everyday occurrence. Even after multiple re-watches, I still get the impression that in Alien the crew thinks they're the first to ever encounter signs of biologically advanced non-terrestrial life. They don't ever state that, of course, but their reactions and behaviors seem to suggest it to me.
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Weyland-Yutani seem to know about the Aliens in the first film though? Its probable that there was contact before but its classified and limited, so for all intents and purposes the crew would feel like they were making first contact
 
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TheJollyCorner

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it only leads me to believe that (Prometheus speculation)
every character in the film dies and whatever the hell happens on LV426 is revisited years/decades/centuries later when the Nostromo discovers the beacon. It's possible that although Weyland Corp sends the Prometheus out there to discover our 'origins' or whatever, data is disrupted and never sent back? Hard to tell. Shit looks like it gets absolutely crazy in this film. Guess we'll find out in a few months.
 
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Suairyu

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bobs99 ... said:
Weyland-Yutani seem to know about the Aliens in the first film though? Its probable that there was contact before but its classified and limited, so for all intents and purposes the crew would feel like they were making first contact
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We know Weyland-Yutani knew about the crashed ship and beacon in Alien because they specifically replaced the previous science officer with an android for the voyage.

But that's Weyland-Yutani. You expect them to secretly know shit.

It's more how everyone in Aliens talks about different species of extra-terrestrials all the time like they're commonly encountered. Even the scenes on earth the board-members are all "no we've never encountered a species like the kind you're describing before" as if they've encountered tons.
 
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bobs...onGaf

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Suairyu said:
We know Weyland-Yutani knew about the crashed ship and beacon in Alien because they specifically replaced the previous science officer with an android for the voyage.

But that's Weyland-Yutani. You expect them to secretly know shit.

It's more how everyone in Aliens talks about different species of extra-terrestrials all the time like they're commonly encountered. Even the scenes on earth the board-members are all "no we've never encountered a species like the kind you're describing before" as if they've encountered tons.
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Oh I understand where you are coming from now and agree with it, I also found that slightly jarring. Although the type of wildlife humans came across while exploring other planets seems like it could be quite base in nature. I think it may be fair to say that while they may have found animals roaming on some alien planet, that those animals are nowhere near as complex or intelligent as the humans or aliens.
 
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zeioIIDX

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Tunesmith said:
Looks like the
xeno suit pics eating lunch
that were leaked ages ago. Incidentally they had
no discernable tails either
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I remember reading about that. Cannot find any pics though, I just remember someone talking about how they saw
three xenomorphs eating lunch...lol. But they described them wearing a blue suit which could be the crew member outfit because it does look like there's a mutation/transformation going on.
 
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Busty said:
I seem to remember reading a theory that a
crew member is exposed to an 'alien gas' and that turns them into a human/xenomorph hybrid which stalks and kills the crew
in the film.
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that sounds a lot like certain aspects of
the abandoned Alien 3 script you can find on the internet
:(
 
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Suairyu said:
See that's one thing that I didn't like about Aliens - "just another bug hunt" - like meeting extra-terrestrials was an everyday occurrence. Even after multiple re-watches, I still get the impression that in Alien the crew thinks they're the first to ever encounter signs of biologically advanced non-terrestrial life. They don't ever state that, of course, but their reactions and behaviors seem to suggest it to me.
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I always took that line to mean a waste of their time, like they've been sent on missions to find people or potential enemies and never really do.
 
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TheJollyCorner

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Jamesways said:
I always took that line to mean a waste of their time, like they've been sent on missions to find people or potential enemies and never really do.
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I could be wrong, but I recall one of the soldiers (Apone maybe?) has 'Bug Killer/Squasher' graffiti on their armor.


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Found it. It's their unit's logo:

is.php


It's also a decal on the side of the dropship, apparently. :D
 
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GhaleonEB

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Suairyu said:
See that's one thing that I didn't like about Aliens - "just another bug hunt" - like meeting extra-terrestrials was an everyday occurrence. Even after multiple re-watches, I still get the impression that in Alien the crew thinks they're the first to ever encounter signs of biologically advanced non-terrestrial life. They don't ever state that, of course, but their reactions and behaviors seem to suggest it to me.
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There's a line in Alien that also support this, when Ash, Dallas and Ripley are arguing whether to preserve the dead facehugger for the trip home. Ash says, "For God's sake, it's the first time we've encountered a species like this..." Not the first time they've found extraterrestrial life, but "a species like this".
 
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Suairyu

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GhaleonEB said:
There's a line in Alien that also support this, when Ash, Dallas and Ripley are arguing whether to preserve the dead facehugger for the trip home. Ash says, "For God's sake, it's the first time we've encountered a species like this..." Not the first time they've found extraterrestrial life, but "a species like this".
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Oh, I know. It's definitely interpretation on my behalf rather than actually supported theory. Even if other life has been encountered, though, Aliens does make it seem a whole lot more casual, y'know?

I guess it's just a tonal thing. I also didn't like how non-imposing Weyland-Yutani were in Aliens - they seemed like your average large company. But in Alien (and, though people hate to bring it up, Alien 3) they seem like this mysterious, monolithic economic entity, like the Tyrell Corporation in Blade Runner or the Patriots in Metal Gear Solid. They are simply a computer terminal giving instructions, never actually seen.
 
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TheJollyCorner

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Suairyu said:
Oh, I know. It's definitely interpretation on my behalf rather than actually supported theory. Even if other life has been encountered, though, Aliens does make it seem a whole lot more casual, y'know?
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then again, maybe a lot happened in the 75 years between Alien and ALIENS?

I agree with you, though.

(lol, the banner I'm seeing in this thread is about 'sexy arab girls')
 
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GhaleonEB

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Suairyu said:
Oh, I know. It's definitely interpretation on my behalf rather than actually supported theory. Even if other life has been encountered, though, Aliens does make it seem a whole lot more casual, y'know?
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Agree; I wasn't disagreeing, just noting that how it was handled in Aliens seemed like an extension of Alien, in that they both implied finding new life had happened before. With so much time passed and so many planets explored between the films, I think that goes some ways toward explaining it.
 
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GraveHorizon

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Rampant speculation starts here:
Alien species have been encountered before, but they were all lower lifeforms with limited complexity/interest, like a rat, whereas the facehugger/alien is rare and intriguing, like a velociraptor. While rats are annoying pests meant to be exterminated for convenience, a velociraptor can potentially be harnessed as an awesome weapon, or profited from by its sheer coolness factor. Having previously acquired minor data on the aliens from the last excursion (the pre-doomed team of Prometheus) on a major alien planet, Weyland-Yutani sent Ripley's crew off into deep space with Ash onboard as a contingency plan, aware of the general area of the incident and the lethality of the aliens. Also, the space jockey is the first sentient alien encountered in recorded history. End of speculation.

I liked Alien, and Aliens was great even if it was more action than horror. I'll probably watch those again right before I go see this in theaters. But I don't want to know the entire plot before seeing the film, so I'll have to avoid watching anymore trailers.
 
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zeioIIDX said:
Haha, oops...should have made myself more clear on which scene I was referring too! Well I screen capped the spot I was talking about.
You should be able to see the claws, especially visible is the crew member's right one. I didn't screen cap the elongated head as it's easier to spot if you watch it slowed down.

Warning: possible spoiler in the following image but mainly speculation on my part.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/ITGzeio/proxen.png
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Yup, I see it. Very interesting.

Spoilers - Bigger picture
 
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GraveHorizon

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Zzoram said:
What's this space jockey? What did it do in the movie? I don't remember much about Alien.
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It was the pilot/last survivor of the ship giving off the distress signal that the Nostromo crew found on the planet. They found it long-dead sitting in the huge seat and its chest had been torn open from the inside, so it was clearly attacked by a facehugger at some point. If I remember correctly, the distress signal was revealed to not be a request for help, but a warning to any beings to stay away from the planet, due to the danger of the xenomorphs.
 
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big_z

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BigNastyCurve said:
Wow. I had assumed we were going to revisit LV-426 at some point.
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i bet this is what happens.

-people explore planet only to find space jockeys are hanging out there
-both are trying to collect the xenomorph eggs/tech from the ruins
-information about whats going on gets back to Weyland-Yutani
-space jockeys and humans have a scuffle
-humans die but a space jockey ship with the aliens eggs manages to take off
-space jockey gets heart burn and crashes into LV-426
-end movie
 
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pringles

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Deadly Monk said:
I know the entire plot :)

Kind of wish I didn't know the ending :(
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Why do this to yourself??

So many people willingly ruin movies or tv-shows for themselves, I'll never understand it.. and those people make life dangerous for those of us that don't want to be spoiled.
So glad I avoided the Breaking Bad S4 thread for example.
 
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