Alright, I tagged the bit that I mentioned about her "pets" earlier, but I still don't think that was a spoiler. Plus its already been put "out there" in this thread by others, but whatevs. Better safe than sorry.
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Alright, I tagged the bit that I mentioned about her "pets" earlier, but I still don't think that was a spoiler. Plus its already been put "out there" in this thread by others, but whatevs. Better safe than sorry.
Pachterballs
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people going on a name being a spoiler are being ridiculous. The name by itself means nothing if you have zero context.
haven't you heard; beeep the zombie slayer showed up with those twin zombies.
haven't you heard; beeep the zombie slayer showed up with those twin zombies.
This is the excact book to get to catch up if you have not read the comics, as it contains Issues #1-#12
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1582406197/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It is the pretty much comic version of Season 1 and 2 (which is a different story, but ends on the same note)
Heh perfect. I was going to ask how much this exact books covers. I bought it like over 2 years ago though I never got around to actually reading it.
(silly of me, I know)I'll read it prior to Season 3. Should be fun to see how different it is from the show.
I don't think it'll be a problem if the writers can establish goals for life inside the complex. Who knows though.
lol
Nothing about this show makes sense...
As I pointed out before, how about GPS, or cell phones, or at least walkie talkies? Could any of those items have come in handy this episode, like the last one maybe?
If the barn could hold like twenty walkers pretty much forever, with humans right outside, how come it could only last like twenty seconds before hands started breaking through the barn walls when Rick was inside? Like with the zombie that was unable to lift his foot out of mud but could disembowel cows and humans, there seems to be little consistency.
And endless supply of shotgun shells, no need to reload, characters no one cares about dying as if the audience is supposed to care about them, fifty headshots in a row while leaning out of moving cars that are driving over rough terrain at night, more last-second saving of characters (the cheapest stunt to build fake tension available to any storyteller) this time by some anime chick with a 20 foot long sword... and there better be an explanation for why her two zombies pets are not constantly trying to eat her, even if they are missing their arms and jaws.
sixteen-bit
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For every 1 viewer Mad Men has, TWD has 6.
Angry Fork
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I'm a big fan of this show and I always defended the episodes prior when gaf would shit on them, but it seems like we're at opposites again with this finale. Now everyone loves the finale but I'm kind of meh'd by it. I was entertained but there were some major writing frustrations I can't get over.
Why is Rick being villainized? He did nothing wrong. Why make him into a dick at all? It's plainly obvious Shane had to go and Rick explained what happened (I'm part of Team Shane btw, he was my favorite character and wish he hadn't died but I get why and it was necessary for story purposes. He did it in self defense, Shane wasn't going to back down. I'm glad they went the extra mile and killed off important characters. It shows that everyone isn't necessarily safe). Lori is the one that should be villainized, and she already is amongst us but the writers seem to be writing her as if we should be sympathizing. Sympathizing with what? An irresponsible clumsy stupid lady that is unwilling to listen to reason? She is absolutely insufferable and I hope both her and Carl die painful deaths in season 3.
Then there's everyone meeting up on the highway. You know, Smallville had Deus Ex Machina in almost every episode, but because it happened so often it became kind of charming. Like it was so bad it was good and you just watched because it's Smallville, but a show like this can't continue to get away with that. How did they all manage to meet up at the same time within what seemed like 5-10 minutes at most within the time frame of the show? After a scene where Maggie and Glenn seem to be in the middle of nowhere together, but 5 min later the whole crew is back together just to prevent Rick from responding to Carl's inane stupidity. Why is Carl such a whiney little cunt? He wonders what's going on and when Rick tries to explain it to him he runs away and cries. JUST STAY STILL AND LISTEN TO REASON. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be shooting a gun at all you little John Wayne wannabe shithead.
Then there was the worst of them all: The supposed need to hunker down and camp and then get gas in the morning. What is this shit. If it was life or death you know everyone could fit in that gray mini van without a problem what so ever. Sit on people's laps, lay in the trunk etc. do what you can. I've seen Guinness world records of 50 Mexicans fitting into Volkswagen beetles. Don't tell me you NEED to camp there the night. This is when I realized people's problems with the writing were real and how they create scenario's that don't make sense just for the sake of increasing 'drama'.
I feel like I'm forgetting some more issues but I can't recall them right now. Why couldn't there be a 2 hour finale? There are lots of shows that do 2 hour premiere's and finale's. This is definitely one that could've used it. Too much rushing, 75% of the show was action which is nice but not much of it felt like it meant anything. I didn't feel like they were ever truly in danger, there's so much open ground and walkers don't move that fast, they could've just kept running but for some reason they stayed around and shot a bunch of zombies just for the sake of entertaining us. It doesn't feel like storytelling it's just action for the sake of it.
With that being said, my positives are:
Andrea being a badass. Rick laying down the law and deciding not to let people run over him anymore. Rick saving Hershel. Daryl being awesome as usual and a nice right hand man staying loyal to Rick, he seems to be the only one there that knows Rick isn't a jerk. Hershel's nice jacket out of nowhere. The barn crumbling set piece. T-Dog getting some lines and action. Glenn coming full circle and hashing things out with Maggie. The katana lady.
Why is Rick being villainized? He did nothing wrong. Why make him into a dick at all? It's plainly obvious Shane had to go and Rick explained what happened (I'm part of Team Shane btw, he was my favorite character and wish he hadn't died but I get why and it was necessary for story purposes. He did it in self defense, Shane wasn't going to back down. I'm glad they went the extra mile and killed off important characters. It shows that everyone isn't necessarily safe). Lori is the one that should be villainized, and she already is amongst us but the writers seem to be writing her as if we should be sympathizing. Sympathizing with what? An irresponsible clumsy stupid lady that is unwilling to listen to reason? She is absolutely insufferable and I hope both her and Carl die painful deaths in season 3.
Then there's everyone meeting up on the highway. You know, Smallville had Deus Ex Machina in almost every episode, but because it happened so often it became kind of charming. Like it was so bad it was good and you just watched because it's Smallville, but a show like this can't continue to get away with that. How did they all manage to meet up at the same time within what seemed like 5-10 minutes at most within the time frame of the show? After a scene where Maggie and Glenn seem to be in the middle of nowhere together, but 5 min later the whole crew is back together just to prevent Rick from responding to Carl's inane stupidity. Why is Carl such a whiney little cunt? He wonders what's going on and when Rick tries to explain it to him he runs away and cries. JUST STAY STILL AND LISTEN TO REASON. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be shooting a gun at all you little John Wayne wannabe shithead.
Then there was the worst of them all: The supposed need to hunker down and camp and then get gas in the morning. What is this shit. If it was life or death you know everyone could fit in that gray mini van without a problem what so ever. Sit on people's laps, lay in the trunk etc. do what you can. I've seen Guinness world records of 50 Mexicans fitting into Volkswagen beetles. Don't tell me you NEED to camp there the night. This is when I realized people's problems with the writing were real and how they create scenario's that don't make sense just for the sake of increasing 'drama'.
I feel like I'm forgetting some more issues but I can't recall them right now. Why couldn't there be a 2 hour finale? There are lots of shows that do 2 hour premiere's and finale's. This is definitely one that could've used it. Too much rushing, 75% of the show was action which is nice but not much of it felt like it meant anything. I didn't feel like they were ever truly in danger, there's so much open ground and walkers don't move that fast, they could've just kept running but for some reason they stayed around and shot a bunch of zombies just for the sake of entertaining us. It doesn't feel like storytelling it's just action for the sake of it.
With that being said, my positives are:
Andrea being a badass. Rick laying down the law and deciding not to let people run over him anymore. Rick saving Hershel. Daryl being awesome as usual and a nice right hand man staying loyal to Rick, he seems to be the only one there that knows Rick isn't a jerk. Hershel's nice jacket out of nowhere. The barn crumbling set piece. T-Dog getting some lines and action. Glenn coming full circle and hashing things out with Maggie. The katana lady.
You're forgetting about one thing: SEATBELT LAWS
Sho_Nuff82
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Lori is just the worst. I was half expecting Rick to call her on her bullshit when he announced that Shane was dead.
- she let Carl wander around the farm/woods when there was (presumably) an escaped prisoner on the loose
- she let Shane go off with Rick despite telling Rick that Shane wasn't right in the head about a week ago and knowing they got in a fight at their last trip together
- she didn't help at all with the giant zombie invasion until it was almost too late because she was busy being a hysterical git
- I almost half expected her to announce that
<- PS, I have no idea if this is true or not, but it sounds like something she would do
The writers have to give us some reason to actually want her around other than Carl whining.
- she let Carl wander around the farm/woods when there was (presumably) an escaped prisoner on the loose
- she let Shane go off with Rick despite telling Rick that Shane wasn't right in the head about a week ago and knowing they got in a fight at their last trip together
- she didn't help at all with the giant zombie invasion until it was almost too late because she was busy being a hysterical git
- I almost half expected her to announce that
Shane is Carl's real father, because they were cheating for the duration of her marriage to Rick
The writers have to give us some reason to actually want her around other than Carl whining.
Pachterballs
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^ literally after the mess at the farm, the episode was completely sapped of excitement and tension. Everything else on the road was boring to watch and these "survivors" who just had to abandon where they'd camped and lived for months; continued to act irrationally.
t-dog had a lorry which can transport people. They travelled up the road to the meetup with
1 car rick/carl/hershel
1 lorry tdog's
1 motorbike
1 car glen maggie car.
but when they got to the road and ran out of fuel, they lost the lorry. They even show rick's car driving past t-dog's blue lorry (which he was going to use to drive to the west coast)
the blue truck
http://i.minus.com/iZWNWuqPHkEqT.JPG
t-dog had a lorry which can transport people. They travelled up the road to the meetup with
1 car rick/carl/hershel
1 lorry tdog's
1 motorbike
1 car glen maggie car.
but when they got to the road and ran out of fuel, they lost the lorry. They even show rick's car driving past t-dog's blue lorry (which he was going to use to drive to the west coast)
the blue truck
http://i.minus.com/iZWNWuqPHkEqT.JPG
Phonomezer
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Yes, I think the usual 45 minutes was insufficient. They needed at least double that to build more tension. I just laughed when Carol was standing next to Andrea and then just "lost" her, they needed more time to keep things more consistent. I hope they consider this for next season.
And these.
EYEL1NER
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I know it got covered, but I would suggest you start at the beginning. The differences are big enough that it won't feel too same-y to you and some of the characters in the show who are god-awful are pretty cool in the comics.
I'd say buy the compendium.
I have read up to somewhere in the 80's now and it hasn't affected my enjoyment of the TV series at all. I read a ton of the comics, then watched S1 as it aired and now S2. I haven't minded knowing what happens in the comics at all, because you never know what will be the same or different, like the CDC stuff, Sophia, most everything that happened at the farm.
Well I would hope that anyone bashing the show's writing wouldn't try to claim the comic is literary genius or anything. I enjoy the writing enough of both though. I'm not looking to read War and Peace or watch Apocalypse Now.
And Fuck Yeah!
Kirkman announced that he finished up Compendium 2 on the 14th. Finally...the wait was killer. I started buying volumes but quit because I like the compendium format.
Just saw the teaser for the Walking Dead game too. Hope that comes out soonish. I haven't played a Telltale Game yet, but I am excited for this.
I really enjoyed the finale. Some annoying stuff, but that's par for the course with this show. Gotta love the good stuff. How can you hate a half-hour of non-stop zombie action?
NOOOOO JIMMY!! YOU WERE MY FAVORITE CHARACTER!!! Seriously though, I was surprised that they even mentioned he died when everyone met up on the highway.
Just with I didn't read the
before seeing the episode. I still loved it, but I would've marked out harder if I didn't know.
NOOOOO JIMMY!! YOU WERE MY FAVORITE CHARACTER!!! Seriously though, I was surprised that they even mentioned he died when everyone met up on the highway.
Just with I didn't read the
Michonne
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
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I can't stand Lori or Carl. A better resolution to the Lori/Shane/Rick thing would have been to kill Lori and Carl IMO. I hope they get knocked off in season 3.
backflip10019
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So... uhh... who was the guy who bit it in the Winnebago in last night's episode? I don't think I've ever seen him.
heliosRAzi
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Why is the name of a character spoilered? It literally has no bearing on the story if her name is Michonne, Michelle, or Michaelangelo.
brianjones
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had a good laugh at that one
He was the young guy that was at the farm when they got there. He's been in like 4 episodes. I can't remember who's kid he is. Otis's or Hershels.
JIMMY NOOOOOO!!!!
List of things Jimmy has done on this show:
- helped dig the graves after the barn was opened
- umm....
- uhhh....
I don't even think he was there during the meeting to discuss killing Randall two episodes back.
Actually think he's a local boy, no blood relation to anyone on the farm, meaning his family's most likely dead somewhere.
backflip10019
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So... Jimmy was just some random guy (or Otis'/Herschel's son) who dug ditches and was of less significance than an RV. Got it.
cuevas. PhD.
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Idk what's worse ricktatorship or resolutionary.
What the heck is a lorry?
Great episode, I think this might be the best one so far in both seasons. Close to the premiere, though a totally different feel. I really like the direction the new director has gone, and to see Michonne show up at the end like she did in the comic was just awesome. Bad ass Rick is here, and I love it. Great episode.
I was curious today over where they filmed parts of the show since I'm originally from GA, and there's a website that shows each place they filmed. Someone also did a map on Bing and you can click on each location and get some backstory on it.
It's possible, but I doubt it. The phrasing from the guys in the bar, seemed like they were looking for better places to stay. The Prison is a great place to stay, in a zombie apocalypse.
Andy: Lorry is an english term for Truck. Though, I thought it was mainly meant for 18 wheeler trucks. Thanks Top Gear UK!
My sister lives near where alot of this is filmed, and has promised to tour the areas next time I visit.
comic spoilers
Can't wait for it.lori dies in the prison right? I think it was here.
I highlighted that and a smile grew on my face.
DCX
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20 foot sword and 10 yards away?!?! She took five steps after the killing. She's seems to be only 5'6. I assume her shoe size is a woman's 7 she might have needed a reach of 45 inches or so.
Let's say her wingspan is her height 66 inches it is perfectly within reality to use a sword ( which adds to your reach) to perform that kill.
DCX
Let's say her wingspan is her height 66 inches it is perfectly within reality to use a sword ( which adds to your reach) to perform that kill.
DCX
Cornballer
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Content wrap up from last night:
AMC Videos:
- Inside the Season Finale
- Making the Season Finale
- Highlights from the Season Finale
Reviews:
- Onion A|V Club review
- Sepinwall's review of the finale
- Maureen Ryan's review
Other content:
- THR: 'The Walking Dead' Dissection: Glen Mazzara and Robert Kirkman Spill on the Bloody Finale
- THR: 'The Walking Dead' Casts Sword-Wielding Heroine Michonne *comic spoilers*
- EW.com: 'Walking Dead' writer Robert Kirkman talks about tonight's game-changing season finale, 'Beside the Dying Fire'
Michonne cast for S3:
Danai Gurira
AMC Videos:
- Inside the Season Finale
- Making the Season Finale
- Highlights from the Season Finale
Reviews:
- Onion A|V Club review
- Sepinwall's review of the finale
- Maureen Ryan's review
Other content:
- THR: 'The Walking Dead' Dissection: Glen Mazzara and Robert Kirkman Spill on the Bloody Finale
- THR: 'The Walking Dead' Casts Sword-Wielding Heroine Michonne *comic spoilers*
- EW.com: 'Walking Dead' writer Robert Kirkman talks about tonight's game-changing season finale, 'Beside the Dying Fire'
Michonne cast for S3:
Danai Gurira
Dutch Gronk
Banned
This is a massive spoiler, I've read the comics so I don't mind, but it might be best if you leave it out of this thread and move it to the spoiler thread.
MR BLACKMAGIK
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I thought it was a great finale. Can't wait for season 3 to start.
robertsan21
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Good question!
and why would they even leave a car/fuel behind?
the writers are just fucking with us it seems, poor written these last episodes.
T-Dog probably ruined the suspension with that terrible u-turn.
robertsan21
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ToyMachine228
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Not at all. He was holding a shotgun and giving Rick a strange look in that final scene there. And he didn't want to go back to the group. So I thought maybe they were going to throw in some extra drama in the end with Rick losing his temper. But T-Dog already got his ass beat once in first season so its probably not necessary. I just wish they'd do something with the character. He's still alive, but he's such an unimportant character. I also wish they'd stop calling him T-Dog in serious situations. Like when Lori was convincing him to turn around. It totally breaks the tension. "T-Dog please" just doesn't sound sincere.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Lori is a poorly written character.
EDIT-Barn face!
Looks like a Tim Burton image.
EDIT-Barn face!
Looks like a Tim Burton image.
Ah you're right, I remember them saying that on Top Gear before. I'm surprised they filmed most of the show south of Atlanta. That explains all the gnats you can see in some of the shots. I'd have filmed further north if only to avoid that (and the increased heat and humidity).
EmCeeGramr
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Predictions for Season 3:
-A herd of walkers nearly kills the entire group when Rick leads them to safety. Lori glares at Rick in contempt for this heinous act.
-A random psychotic chainsaw-wielding serial killer attacks Carl, but Rick shoots him and saves his son's life. Lori can barely look at Rick in her disgust.
-Rick finds a laboratory filled with notes; the scientists there were days from finding a cure and dispersal method. Rick spends his days and nights working around the clock instead of giving hats to Carl or having sex with Lori. Lori confronts Rick about his selfish behavior and threatens to leave him.
-A train full of nuns is about to derail and hit a kitten stuck in a tree. Rick goes out on his own and stops the disaster. Lori and the others whisper about what needs to be done to stop Rick's reign of terror.
-A herd of walkers nearly kills the entire group when Rick leads them to safety. Lori glares at Rick in contempt for this heinous act.
-A random psychotic chainsaw-wielding serial killer attacks Carl, but Rick shoots him and saves his son's life. Lori can barely look at Rick in her disgust.
-Rick finds a laboratory filled with notes; the scientists there were days from finding a cure and dispersal method. Rick spends his days and nights working around the clock instead of giving hats to Carl or having sex with Lori. Lori confronts Rick about his selfish behavior and threatens to leave him.
-A train full of nuns is about to derail and hit a kitten stuck in a tree. Rick goes out on his own and stops the disaster. Lori and the others whisper about what needs to be done to stop Rick's reign of terror.
Neuromancer
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Haha
Hey what's up with your avatar? Is that a lens flare effect?
Hey what's up with your avatar? Is that a lens flare effect?
Angry Fork
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He was kidding. It's just a joke to call people racists based on harmless statements that have black/white variables.
mass effect threeeeeeeee
Neuromancer
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I figured it was something like that
Ugh, Lori is an awful character. I agree with Angry Fork's entire post SO MUCH. The show is trying to villainize Rick and wants fans to sympathize with Lori. The writers are crazy.
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