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The Formula 1 2012 Season |OT| The Year of the...uh...Platypus?

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ANDY_098

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Lewis' comment was clearly tongue-in-cheek, though. Surprised you didn't get it...

What did Hamilton actually say? I must have missed it.


Proof that Merc are blowing the front wing (the two ducts):
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S. L.

Member
when you design the car around it it's probably not that hard.
but fitting those in-season will probably quite a headache
 

ANDY_098

Member
The problem with copying it will probably be feeding the ducts through the tub, unless there are already holes in it which can be used then it would need re-homologation to put some in I think. They all managed to retrofit the F-duct so I doubt there will be too much difficulty in adding these.

The duct is the silver pipe going from the back of the car, up to the radiator, presumably enters the tub somewhere around there.
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Just finished watching, gahh what a sucky race for JB. Super happy to see Senna do so well, I really warmed to him last season.

Oooooh, up into the early 30's on the leaderboards, not too unimpressed with that.
 
Man, uploading an F1 vid on to Youtube isn't such a great idea. All of these arguing comments about Vettel are heading straight to my phone. It's been vibrating constantly and I have to read "LOL VETTEL SUX"

I'm glad we haven't had many hit n run posters like that this year. We had loads last year.
 

mblitek

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OHHHHHHHHHH just finished the race! Amazing drive from Alonso, Perez, Senna & ..........Maldonado

Too bad about Perez :( I'm so pumped to see Perez & Senna doing well! Absolutely gutted to see Grosjean & Maldonado fall out.

Now I have to watch post race coverage from BBC & Sky.

Annnnnnnd catch up on the posts. I'm on page 47 :|
 

Mobius 1

Member
Sky's coverage during the red flag put me to sleep and I missed the fun part. Dullards one and all, with all respect.

Now I have to rewatch, knowing the result.
 

Xun

Member
Sky's coverage during the red flag put me to sleep and I missed the fun part. Dullards one and all, with all respect.

Now I have to rewatch, knowing the result.
Same.

It was crazy when I awoke to see Alonso leading with Pérez not far behind.

I switched to RTL when the Sky feed was banned, and I think I'll probably stick with it for the remainder of the non-BBC races.
 
Sky's coverage during the red flag put me to sleep and I missed the fun part. Dullards one and all, with all respect.

Now I have to rewatch, knowing the result.

I watched Speed's feed. Fuck me, I am pissed at this shit.

1. Perez!!!! So good!!
2. LOL Massa!
3. Vettel keeps on bursting tires.
4. Maldonado's luck sucks!

This season is so fucking good so far!
 

AcridMeat

Banned
What a great race that was! Like everyone else, was rooting for Perez but was so happy for Sauber to get that result. Button was an idiot, but then Karth showed that he's still the biggest one on the grid. Was upset for Maldonardo after working his way back into the points.

Sad we've got a 3 week lull now.

I didn't see it in the race or anyone comment on it, why did Kobayashi DNF?
 

fogberto

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I didn't see it in the race or anyone comment on it, why did Kobayashi DNF?

Yeah I didn't see it happen during the race either. Here's a quote from Formula1.com though.

Kamui Kobayashi (DNF)
“It is great for our team to have scored so well today, but for me personally, of course, it was a very disappointing race. Technically I struggled with the brakes and that was then also why I had to give up after 47 laps. Besides that for me the strategy didn’t work out, which, of course, is always easy to realise in hindsight. I had a good start but then it was a long time before I changed from intermediates to rain tyres. It was not easy to keep the car on track, and almost as soon as I had changed the red flag came out. But nobody can know this in advance. Later in the race then it was the other way round. I would have loved to get dry tyres, but we were expecting more rain so, again, I could not get rid of the intermediate tyres.”
 

Shaneus

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Turkey 2010 didn't already do that for you?
I wasn't talking about myself :p Others who may have been casual fans AND managed to catch his comments (which I doubt... casual fans wouldn't be chasing up post-race comments) would be less likely to support him.

Ridiculous.
Yup. I'm still in the same boat of HRT not deserving to be there, but if they followed the rules and didn't do anything drastically wrong, they shouldn't be penalised. Don't remember seeing Button getting all narky. Took full ownership of the incident and looks the better man for it. In fact, I reckon I've gone from feeling indifferent toward Vettel to somewhat disliking him. Not drastic, but it's from neutral to negative... so there ya go.


F1RM: I moved up 26 positions to become #89 on the leaderboard. 556 points last race. That's good, right?

Now, with the money from that race (I guess) and the quiz, I have 10mil. Do I save or upgrade something? TBH I'm pretty happy with what I have, with the exception of the drivers.


Attn Australians: I saw an ad during the broadcast (duh) for Swisse where you can enter a competition to have dinner with Mark. Webber.

Let that sink in.

We have two options. One: Enter, so that the chances of a GAFfer going are higher than just me entering. Two: Don't enter, so I have a greater chance overall. Let me know your decision post-haste.

BTW Did I mention I'm off to Sydney?
 

AcridMeat

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Yeah I didn't see it happen during the race either. Here's a quote from Formula1.com though.
Brakes plus what appeared to be something wrong with the suspension. His car was all over the place.
Damn :(
Yup. I'm still in the same boat of HRT not deserving to be there, but if they followed the rules and didn't do anything drastically wrong, they shouldn't be penalised. Don't remember seeing Button getting all narky. Took full ownership of the incident and looks the better man for it. In fact, I reckon I've gone from feeling indifferent toward Vettel to somewhat disliking him. Not drastic, but it's from neutral to negative... so there ya go.
That's because Button was 100% at fault for what happened with his incident. Meanwhile Vettel was lapping Karthikeyan.
 
Today I was actually happy with Brundle and Croft, but after seeing the BBC highlights, it looks like DC is still doing the better job. Somehow I just enjoyed it more.
 

spicy cho

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TSN here in Canada has the live BBC commentary for the entire race, guess I'm lucky I don't have to deal with Sky, or worse... Speed.
 

TylerD

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Such a shame that Sergio couldn't bring home that win but the kid is most definitely a huge talent. What an eventful race. I thought it was particularly funny when Alonso was crossing the line you could see the bright helmet of Massa in the foreground.

I'm going to have to download that BBC highlight package now. Woo!
 
Such a shame that Sergio couldn't bring home that win but the kid is most definitely a huge talent. What an eventful race. I thought it was particularly funny when Alonso was crossing the line you could see the bright helmet of Massa in the foreground.

I'm going to have to download that BBC highlight package now. Woo!

Just one more lap, I wish this race had just one more lap, so Alonso could've destroyed Felipe. I wonder how Reb Smedley must've felt.
 
I wasn't talking about myself :p Others who may have been casual fans AND managed to catch his comments (which I doubt... casual fans wouldn't be chasing up post-race comments) would be less likely to support him.


Yup. I'm still in the same boat of HRT not deserving to be there, but if they followed the rules and didn't do anything drastically wrong, they shouldn't be penalised. Don't remember seeing Button getting all narky. Took full ownership of the incident and looks the better man for it. In fact, I reckon I've gone from feeling indifferent toward Vettel to somewhat disliking him. Not drastic, but it's from neutral to negative... so there ya go.


F1RM: I moved up 26 positions to become #89 on the leaderboard. 556 points last race. That's good, right?

Now, with the money from that race (I guess) and the quiz, I have 10mil. Do I save or upgrade something? TBH I'm pretty happy with what I have, with the exception of the drivers.

Same boat here. I have 13 million to spend after Malaysia and no clue what to do with it. I'm even going to clear more space when I switch Petrov again for Kovalainen for China. I don't know whether to go for Senna or Vergne or Koba or Grosjean (provided he doesn't CRASH AGAIN) or do something else. Being new to this is rough.

Just one more lap, I wish this race had just one more lap, so Alonso could've destroyed Felipe. I wonder how Reb Smedley must've felt.

Bring out the GIF.
 

Joni

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That's because Button was 100% at fault for what happened with his incident. Meanwhile Vettel was lapping Karthikeyan.
Still doesn't require him to hit Karthikeyan when the guy was out of the way. Even if you're lapping cars, you can't drive through them.
 

Shaneus

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Same boat here. I have 13 million to spend after Malaysia and no clue what to do with it. I'm even going to clear more space when I switch Petrov again for Kovalainen for China. I don't know whether to go for Senna or Vergne or Koba or Grosjean (provided he doesn't CRASH AGAIN) or do something else. Being new to this is rough.
That's better than what I have. Sad thing is, even though I know it's a better investment to improve the engine than the driver, I just don't want to hang onto Pic anymore. Waste of space :/

Can we have just a single driver?
 

AcridMeat

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Still doesn't require him to hit Karthikeyan when the guy was out of the way. Even if you're lapping cars, you can't drive through them.
He didn't.

I'm not defending Vettel for his response or how he acted after the fact, but the guy left him room. Karthekeyan moved back over when there was still too little space, causing him to clip his wing on the tire.

I understand the response of "well he needed to be on the racing line", that doesn't give him the right to clip the car.

Again, Karthikeyan could have and should have stayed out of the way.
 
Ferrari won't always be in disarray. Especially with completely new regulations next year.



I agree. Pretty sure he said himself he would have gone for it.

I thought the new regulations were pushed back a year to 2014. Correct me if I'm wrong

I dropped 1 p[laces in the league.. now I'm 111 or something :p ..
 

Shaneus

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He didn't.

I'm not defending Vettel for his response or how he acted after the fact, but the guy left him room. Karthekeyan moved back over when there was still too little space, causing him to clip his wing on the tire.

I understand the response of "well he needed to be on the racing line", that doesn't give him the right to clip the car.

Again, Karthikeyan could have and should have stayed out of the way.
Karthi said he caught wheelspin when he drove on the rumble strip and that's why he swerved back. Not even that far, either.
 

Mohonky

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lol @ Vettel. Seriously? If Hamilton was at fault last year, Vettel has to be at fault there.

Maclaren again, dominating quali but just don't seem to be anywhere near as special during the race. A solid third for Hamilton again despite coming in late and having two poor pit stops. Looked like a fairly lonely race, was hoping he could come back and challenge the front two but again, the car has awesome pace in quali but just seems like it doesn't have any edge during the race.

Karth....dude's a real game changer in terms of championship points, despite being at the back lol. I wouldn't suggest either incident was his fault though.

Again Mercedes like Maclaren, they can qualify well but just have nothing come race day.

Perez, man I thought he was gonna win it.

Congrats to Alonso, not a fan of the guy but he certainly pulled that Ferrari from nowhere today.

Massa I dunno. I like the guy, but ever since he copped that knock to the head he just doesn't have the edge he needs. Years ago you'd have picked the guy to win a WDC at some point; now you just wonder how long he'll have a car to drive. Maybe he'll turn into Barrichello 2.0 with longevity in the sport with bugger all to show for it. Mind you it's not like he would be skint on money.....
 

Adamm

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Massa I dunno. I like the guy, but ever since he copped that knock to the head he just doesn't have the edge he needs. Years ago you'd have picked the guy to win a WDC at some point; now you just wonder how long he'll have a car to drive. Maybe he'll turn into Barrichello 2.0 with longevity in the sport with bugger all to show for it. Mind you it's not like he would be skint on money.....
Massa hasnt really been the same since he lost the WDC to Hamilton on the last corner of the last race.
The next season he was in poor form even before his injury (F60 issues aside)
 

AcridMeat

Banned
Karthi said he caught wheelspin when he drove on the rumble strip and that's why he swerved back. Not even that far, either.
Boo-hoo? He's still a backmarker being passed.

Sorry but seeing this guy have a drive just irks me to no end. He's been doing this for the past two seasons.
 

Xun

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Maclaren again, dominating quali but just don't seem to be anywhere near as special during the race. A solid third for Hamilton again despite coming in late and having two poor pit stops. Looked like a fairly lonely race, was hoping he could come back and challenge the front two but again, the car has awesome pace in quali but just seems like it doesn't have any edge during the race.
I don't think it's fair to say this just yet.

The car is certainly the fastest out there, but I just think the changing conditions messed things up for McLaren.

Massa I dunno. I like the guy, but ever since he copped that knock to the head he just doesn't have the edge he needs. Years ago you'd have picked the guy to win a WDC at some point; now you just wonder how long he'll have a car to drive. Maybe he'll turn into Barrichello 2.0 with longevity in the sport with bugger all to show for it. Mind you it's not like he would be skint on money.....
Unlike Massa however Barrichello has always been a strong driver, just Ferrari favoured Schumacher in his Ferrari days.

Barrichello wasn't far off the points in 2009.
 

pappe

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That's because Button was 100% at fault for what happened with his incident. Meanwhile Vettel was lapping Karthikeyan.

Vettel tried to squeeze Karthikeyan for whatever reason(Maybe he didnt get out of the way before the corner or something) He mis-judged squeezing him and ended up hitting him.
Narain should not be blamed for this incident.
 

Staab

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Felipe is simply past his prime:
he used to be a good driver, not an exceptional one, mind you but after losing the WDC by 1 point and then having his incident I believe he has developed a conscience of the danger inherent to racing and he has lost the ability to be on the edge because he lost his "1 chance at being the champion".
It's showing a lot with his desperate attempts at blocking cars regardless of right or wrong and his really poor qualifying form.

Sadly, it impacts his behavior off the track, he's much more aggressive and it's a real shame because Massa is a really good guy who does give back a lot to the community.
 

acm2000

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Felipe is simply past his prime:
he used to be a good driver, not an exceptional one, mind you but after losing the WDC by 1 point and then having his incident I believe he has developed a conscience of the danger inherent to racing and he has lost the ability to be on the edge because he lost his "1 chance at being the champion".
It's showing a lot with his desperate attempts at blocking cars regardless of right or wrong and his really poor qualifying form.

Sadly, it impacts his behavior off the track, he's much more aggressive and it's a real shame because Massa is a really good guy who does give back a lot to the community.

he hasnt been the same since taking a spring to the face, he would still bring alot to the lower teams, but he shouldnt be at the top anymore
 

navanman

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Read this earlier - it seems odd.

But this quote "Adam leaves us on good terms to pursue a better balance in his life for which I wish him and his family well."

Im guessing its personel issues within his life that is making him leave rather than anything to do within the team.

The twitter rumours are he got the sack for fucking up negotiations with Bernie over the new Concorde Agreement.
Bernie was offering Williams a good deal, which it looks like Parr wasn't going for so Bernie offered it to Force India which they accepted leaving Williams out in the cold and more than likely to get a worse deal in the future.
 

S. L.

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I didn't see it in the race or anyone comment on it, why did Kobayashi DNF?

unlucky weekend all around. Something with his rear suspension was broken for quali and they had to change it for sunday. On sunday he lost break pressure/leak in the hydraulics i think.

dont act surprised, we all know f1 is run by politics, jean todt is luca's personal fluffer
conspiracy bs
 

pappe

Member
dont act surprised, we all know f1 is run by politics, jean todt is luca's personal fluffer

Yes there are politics, but then they are there in every sport.

But that 'Ferrari International Assistance' stopped being funny and accurate around 4 seasons back and just makes you sound like an ass, so stop it.
 

acm2000

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Yes there are politics, but then they are there in every sport.

But that 'Ferrari International Assistance' stopped being funny and accurate around 4 seasons back and just makes you sound like an ass, so stop it.

its still fitting for them
 
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