How do you get 2 probations? Surely if you are on probabtion and you fuck up you get your license pulled?
Double-secret probation.
How do you get 2 probations? Surely if you are on probabtion and you fuck up you get your license pulled?
It says shes a nurse on her facebook.
Absolutely terrible that the woman decided to end her life over this situation.
Blaming the DJ's to the extent that I'm reading in some people's reactions is absolutely mind boggling...
It was just a prank call, radio stations here in Australia run one every single morning! Has the whole world gone PC?
Seriously we are going to get to the point where you can't do or say anything without it being turned into the biggest issue under the sun....
If you want somebody to blame then take a look at the UK media, they are a bunch of idiots.
That's fuckin problem. A prank call is just a prank call until it fucks up badly. You don't prank emergency services. You have to be a special nutcase or a human with with worthless values to want to prank call a hospital.
Hospitals deals with people lives. You want prank calls? Try a friggin restaurant. You may get cheap laughs there without fucking things up
Have you heard the call? Seriously tame as it gets...
Way to miss the point - taking up the time of emergency services with prank calls is bad enough, but to trick a nurse into disclosing patient information as well? I don't see how you're not getting the severity.
Way to miss the point - taking up the time of emergency services with prank calls is bad enough, but to trick a nurse into disclosing patient information as well? I don't see how you're not getting the severity.
failing to protect a patient's confidentiality is a really big fuckup and disciplinary action or a stern talking to would be entirely appropriate. further, the hospital denied reprimanding her, did they not? so she may not have been disciplined at all. I don't think any hostility is justified or worthwhile.quit. It was a dumb prank. And believe it or not, hospitals get crank calls all the time, like most places guaranteed to be open 24/7. The outrage should be over the fact that this would be a great embarrassment, and that someone MIGHT consider it significant enough to deserve punishment.
If you think this ended at that ward with a few giggles, and a "poor you" from the head nurse, you're kidding yourself. I would blame that situation and would direct my hostility at that instead of some bad DJ phone pranks. I don't let them off entirely, but the brunt if the fury shouldn't be aimed at them.
In fact, all that was said was that she was having trouble sleeping and some other non-information that a new reporter might get out of a nurse if they were to have called a hospital. The problem is that this was the "special" hospital that had been given the "honour" of serving the Duchess and other royals and they didn't like that one of their nurses had been so impious in sharing those minor details. It might have made them look bad, and they might not have gottem special preference in the future. That was the gist of every article about this before she killed herself.
Haven't read the entire story (or read through the whole thread), but aren't prank calls (done by radio stations) usually pre-recorded? At least that's how it works with this one radio station I listen to during my morning drive to work.
At the end of the prank (and following commentary), they play a disclaimer that says that all parties were made aware of the prank before its actual airing and have agreed to let it air.
failing to protect a patient's confidentiality is a really big fuckup and disciplinary action or a stern talking to would be entirely appropriate. further, the hospital denied reprimanding her, did they not? so she may not have been disciplined at all. I don't think any hostility is justified or worthwhile.
I don't think calling a hospital counts as emergency services. Emergency services are ambulance, fire service and the police service on 999.
Just thought i'd point that out before more people start saying emergency services.
failing to protect a patient's confidentiality is a really big fuckup and disciplinary action or a stern talking to would be entirely appropriate. further, the hospital denied reprimanding her, did they not? so she may not have been disciplined at all. I don't think any hostility is justified or worthwhile.
I guess prank calling an orphanage or a safe home for abused women is ok too then.
Hospitals even if it's only the helpdesk are responsible for dealing with people in trouble and their relatives, aside from the whole privacy matter and endangering people's job with deception, you don't go waste their time for one sided comedy relief.
Nobody could have predicted it would lead to a suicide but prank calling a hospital is certainly a sign of appalling taste.
Haven't read the entire story (or read through the whole thread), but aren't prank calls (done by radio stations) usually pre-recorded? At least that's how it works with this one radio station I listen to during my morning drive to work.
At the end of the prank (and following commentary), they play a disclaimer that says that all parties were made aware of the prank before its actual airing and have agreed to let it air.
I am not familiar with the UK's laws, but I am guessing there are certain protocols at each hospital in place to prevent things like this from happening. Surely you confirm it is the family member before divulging any personal information? A password, a phone number, a specific family member's name, etc. If the person calling doesn't know the password or isn't on the list... don't tell them anything... or call them back when you can confirm they are legit (check their number, speak to your Pt, etc.). And you can always transfer the call to the patient if the patient is capable of taking calls. In the case of a celebrity, I would've expected more barriers to be in place to prevent this from happening... If the hospital really had not protocols for dealing with these types of situations, then that is a huge admin error....I hate to break it to a lot of you guys, but it is actually allowed in many hospitals to give out patient information to next of kin. I work in a long term care facility, and as long as the family member is listed in the patient chart, the nurse in charge is allowed to disclose information pertaining to their conditions. It is a huge loophole that needs to be addressed though. This just proves that anyone could impersonate the 'next of kin' for all patients/residents on the unit to obtain as much information as they want.
The nurse in question was probably allowed to do what she did.. despite the ridiculousness of it all being the Queen/Charles etc.
Personally, I'd chance the review board if it was me. And if it was such a serious breach. I didn't hear any personal information being divulged, and her co-worker who gave her the phone had told her that it was a family member speaking.
And do you think they hospital would say that they reamed her out, and then later found her dead in the park? And really I'm not calling for hostility, but if people are angry, stop making a gigantic deal over the stupid bit of nothing this prank call was.
edit: I don't really think "Oh, she's had a bit of trouble sleeping through the night, but she's doing better." Really qualifies as "personal health information". That could just be me.
I am not familiar with the UK's laws, but I am guessing there are certain protocols at each hospital in place to prevent things like this from happening. Surely you confirm it is the family member before divulging any personal information? A password, a phone number, a specific family member's name, etc. If the person calling doesn't know the password or isn't on the list... don't tell them anything... or call them back when you can confirm they are legit (check their number, speak to your Pt, etc.). And you can always transfer the call to the patient if the patient is capable of taking calls. In the case of a celebrity, I would've expected more barriers to be in place to prevent this from happening... If the hospital really had not protocols for dealing with these types of situations, then that is a huge admin error....
Oh yes, I think I said in my initial post that this was a pretty big fuckup, but that was from a North American perspective. HCPs, nurses especially, are tasked with protecting confidentiality. It wouldn't be inappropriate or unsurprising if she was reprimanded.The Data Protection Act 1998 should cover it.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/29/contents
It's a pretty major thing to do with people storing information about other people so I don't believe for a second the people who gave the information didn't get a bollocking.
From what I understand she is highly revered there, and a joke to most of the rest of the world(as British royalty in general is).
Oh yes, I think I said in my initial post that this was a pretty big fuckup, but that was from a North American perspective. HCPs, nurses especially, are tasked with protecting confidentiality. It wouldn't be inappropriate or unsurprising if she was reprimanded.
I don't get it either...I don't understand. She answered a prank call, exchanged nearly no words, and then killed herself? I... don't understand.
I don't get it either...
I feel bad for both her family and the DJs.
Americans seem to love the royal family more than Britain itself at this point.
They already had to go off air and are gonna get tons of shit for this.I don't understand why you'd feel sorry for the DJs. I don't think what they did was wrong, but they're not really deserving of sympathy.
I don't understand. She answered a prank call, exchanged nearly no words, and then killed herself? I... don't understand.
They already had to go off air and are gonna get tons of shit for this.
I don't understand. She answered a prank call, exchanged nearly no words, and then killed herself? I... don't understand.
They'll be fine. If Kyle (DJ on the same network) can get a 14yo girl to take a live lie detector test and admit to her mum she was raped and not get so much as a slap on the wrist?
Yeah, these two will be fine.
So, what exactly does the Royal family do these days? I'm guessing they don't wield any power, so are they just like socialites? We get Paris Hilton, you get the queen? Or more like the Pope to catholics?