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I wasn't actually serious. but really...why does he have headphone port on his chest?!
My guess is that what the burn face man refers as "trojan horse" in the GZ trailer.
I wasn't actually serious. but really...why does he have headphone port on his chest?!
That's Gustava you fools!
No, I don't take ban bets.
It's actually Holly White, lolol
Still not taking ban bets.
Oh please, like Kojima remembers anything from MG1 & 2.
The whole point of Metal Gear 2 was to recover the OLIX formula which would enable fuels to be made extremely cheap. But in MGS4, "oil and fuel have become as rare as diamonds".
There's also the whole Madnar thing.
if they're getting nearer to shadow moses in the timeline i hope they go with a more electro synth soundtrack like they did with the first mgs.
those pounding ominous synth baselines sounded like they were straight from The Thing, or Escape from New York. Set the scene so well for Shadow Moses and made the whole place seem 10 x spookier.
not a fan of the orchestral stuff in the later games.
I was just listening to this today.
Mantis' Hymn still sends chills down my spine.
Hahaha.A bit to the northeast of the British base/hospital on Cyprus:
http://www.lemeridienlimassol.com/en/kojima
This rabbit hole is deep, man.
Are you saying that the bald doctor in the trailer is not Kio Marv?! I refuse to believe your lies.
No, no... yeah, Kojima doesn't care about MG and MG II
I may also add that the doctor in the pp trailer might not be Dr.Kio. Kio had brown eyes, this doctor has blue eyes. Could be possible that he is Dr.Pettrovich, idk what his eye color is though.
Edit: lol Xun, my hair looks smoother than yours.
Ill see if i can make a video detailing everything we have found later this week. The chronological trailer someone made was awesome.
Do you have link to this, please?
Do you have link to this, please?
if they're getting nearer to shadow moses in the timeline i hope they go with a more electro synth soundtrack like they did with the first mgs.
those pounding ominous synth baselines sounded like they were straight from The Thing, or Escape from New York. Set the scene so well for Shadow Moses and made the whole place seem 10 x spookier.
not a fan of the orchestral stuff in the later games.
The soundtrack in the Phantom Pain trailer has the same vibe as the music in the Ground Zeroes one. Just another connection between the two trailers. I loved Gregson-Williams' work in the series but I think this new sound from Ludvig Forssell is refreshing. The music in the Ground Zeroes trailer when we first see Snake climbing up the cliff side is awesome.
Thanks. That's great.
Who's Ludvig Forssell ? I didn't know Kojima had already announced who was composing the game. Where did you get this info ?
I know for sure the whale and unicorn are hallucinations. Never saw that in a MGS game....kojima is crazy but not that crazy
I don't remember if I said this already, but oh how I wish this was a new IP. I could tell really early on in the trailer (car crash, Snake's famous mullet) that it was a MGS game, but the gameplay looked really interesting. But once he got up and started running down the hallway in classic crouch-run fashion, I can't help but wonder if it will be like the opening to MGS4 -- the first level was pretty interesting and felt like it could be truly different, and then the rest threw that all away.
- Big Boss creates Outer Heaven after Peace Walker.
- Paz and Chico (from Peace Walker) are captured and held in a 'Les Enfants Terribles' camp.
- Big Boss goes alone to rescue them, leaving behind his "men."
- Big Boss is captured while making an escape in a stolen Ambulance. Then escapes hospital.
- It's revealed at this point Big Boss was drawn in by future FOXHOUND mebers headed by Revolver Ocelot .
- Boss fights happen and further consipracy plot end with the government (and secretly Ocelot) betraying FOXHOUND.
- Big Boss convinces Ocelot and FOXHOUND to join Outer Heaven.
A bit to the northeast of the British base/hospital on Cyprus:
http://www.lemeridienlimassol.com/en/kojima
This rabbit hole is deep, man.
I wonder, is this coma the time for Big Boss' genetic info to be stolen for the les Infants project?
i don't think anyone's mentioned this on GAF, either, but the 'taboo' subject of Project Ogre (Joakim mOGREn) could well be child soldiers, of whom we see a lot of in the GZ trailer. the Japanese fairy tale (The Ogre of Rashomon) is about five warriors, where one is goaded into going out at night during a storm (GZ trailer) and seeing if the terrible ogre truly exists. this guy ends up meeting this ogre, and in trying to get away/kill it, chops off the ogre's arm. he keeps it in a locked box. the ogre comes back one day, disguised as his old nursemaid ('trojan horse' mentioned in the GZ trailer by scarred face), to take it back. ogre succeeds in taking the arm back, runs away, and is never seen again.
to me, the GZ trailer and PP trailer has the same graphic assets. so much so that GZ and PP could almost be happening nearly at the same time. just from different vantage points.
moreover:
(from wikipedia, keeping in mind the, "am i in a dream?" "am i in hell?" "open your eyes" monologue of the PP trailer and Kojima's love of movies)
"The Rashomon effect is the effect of the subjectivity of perception on recollection, by which observers of an event are able to produce substantially different but equally plausible accounts of it. A useful demonstration of this principle in scientific understanding can be found in an article by that name authored by Karl G. Heider.
It is named for Akira Kurosawa's film Rashomon, in which a crime witnessed by four individuals is described in four mutually contradictory ways. The film is based on two short stories by Ryūnosuke Akutagawa, "Rashōmon" (for the setting) and "Yabu no naka", otherwise known as "In a Grove" (for the story line)."
1. Kind of created it before or during Peace Walker in name at least.
2. if you want.
3. Big Boss is given the mission by Master Kazuhira McDonell Benedict Miller or whatever his name is this time.
4. The mission was in Cuba, the hospital is in Cyprus.
5. probably.
6. Probably.
I think:
- Big Boss goes to rescue Paz and Chico,
- Brings back Chico, leaves Paz behind,
- Mother Base attacked by a nuclear submarine
- Big Boss hides in a fridge but can't fit his left arm inside.
- Nuclear blast sends the fridge flying to Cyprus.
- Big Boss wakes up in hospital 8 years later.
- After escaping from an attack on the hospital, Jack Bauer dies.
- Undergoes an operation to have Jack Bauer's forearm attached to his missing one.
- Sets up base in the eastern Mediterranean sea.
Wow! Mind fuck!!
http://www.giantbomb.com/the-phanto...-theory-on-the-phantom-pain/35-570177/?page=6
Got linked to this via Twitter (Thank you!). It's an amazing theory! You earn the detective badge of honor!
Read the link for hyperlinks. I'm on my phone.
In MG Rising, supposedly the left arms of soldiers contain their "memories".
Is this some sort of attempt at retconning/adding to the whole Ocelot/Liquid arm thing? If Big Boss really lost his left arm and they replace it, whose arm will it be? Are they going to justify that Big Boss "became evil" and built Outer Heaven because of that?
So far, there is still nothing that explains why Big Boss would become as he has in MG1/MG2, where he talks like a dangerous madman.
But MGS4 sort of shat on that, making BB sound like he was normal and hadn't gone crazy/dangerous.
In MG Rising, supposedly the left arms of soldiers contain their "memories".
Is this some sort of attempt at retconning/adding to the whole Ocelot/Liquid arm thing? If Big Boss really lost his left arm and they replace it, whose arm will it be?
There was gameplay in that video?
I wonder, is this coma the time for Big Boss' genetic info to be stolen for the les Infants project?
Oh god my headbrain
Wow! Mind fuck!!
http://www.giantbomb.com/the-phanto...-theory-on-the-phantom-pain/35-570177/?page=6
Got linked to this via Twitter (Thank you!). It's an amazing theory! You earn the detective badge of honor!
Read the link for hyperlinks. I'm on my phone. Such a fun read! Remember when Kojima said that "Do you see an OGRE?!"; Snake is that Ogre!!
Un ogre (du latin orcus, « enfer », fém. ogresse) est un personnage de contes et traditions populaires, sorte de géant se nourrissant de chair fraîche et dévorant les petits enfants.
An ogre is a character in stories and traditions popular sort of giant flesh-eating and devouring small children.
I may also add that the doctor in the pp trailer might not be Dr.Kio. Kio had brown eyes, this doctor has blue eyes. Could be possible that he is Dr.Pettrovich, idk what his eye color is though.
Edit: lol Xun, my hair looks smoother than yours.
So far, there is still nothing that explains why Big Boss would become as he has in MG1/MG2, where he talks like a dangerous madman.
Or maybe this is Liquid. TWISTAOh Jesus, just now realized the missing arm connection. Ocelot.
It's been speculated that Phantom Pain and Ground Zeroes are separate parts of the same game, so could we be looking at a story that revolves around the various FOXHOUND team members? Let’s take it a step further…
Remember the intro to MGS4? With the different television channels and ads for the various PMCs? What if MGSV is similar, and it’s actually a collection of five smaller games, each one telling the story of a member of FOXHOUND (with the exception of Revolver Ocelot) and playing in a different style? Ground Zeroes is the open world Metal Gear game, Phantom Pain as a sort of military horror game (something like F.E.A.R. but in the MGS style), and so on.
It’s MGSV, not MGS5. That is to say… maybe it’s not the fifth game in the Metal Gear Solid series, but a game about five stories all related to Metal Gear Solid?
Woah that is an awesome idea but I do not give Kojima enough credit to come up with a something like that. Plus this is something that is not practical to make in 2012.
Which is why I believe that Kojima is slowly making his way up the MGS timeline, intending to conclude the saga with a remake of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake into one game called "The Metal Gear".