People are less likely to return for sequels if they didn't like the original.What?
That's crazy FF13-2 is quality and much better than FF13. But people were so soured...
Also Perfo... you don't have to be an apologist.
People are less likely to return for sequels if they didn't like the original.What?
That's crazy FF13-2 is quality and much better than FF13. But people were so soured...
No, it's justified.
FFvXIII was announced in 2006. TWO THOUSAND AND SIX.
And they have nothing to show for it except for a cash-in sequel that we never asked for which looks and runs like an absolute dog.
Given their legacy, we have every right to be concerned. We have every right to be angry.
Both Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 shit on the FFXIII series from great heights. Whatever he makes, won't be as disastrous as these games. And as crap as the story is in KH, it's still better than whatever Toriyama made which is basically his sex fantasy with a fictional character.What make you sure that versus will even be good? The director behind the game is Tetsuya Nomura, the guy who's known for being the director and writer of the Kingdom Hearts franchise, a series that is known for it's poor storytelling and repetitive combat.
The discussion here has hit a new low. Congratulations.it's still better than whatever Toriyama made which is basically his sex fantasy with a fictional character.
Nomura's games are generally good though. Versus is an evolution of KH BBS's battle system which was fantastic.What make you sure that versus will even be good? The director behind the game is Tetsuya Nomura, the guy who's known for being the director and writer of the Kingdom Hearts franchise, a series that is known for it's poor storytelling and repetitive combat.
What make you sure that versus will even be good? The director behind the game is Tetsuya Nomura, the guy who's known for being the director and writer of the Kingdom Hearts franchise, a series that is known for it's poor storytelling and repetitive combat.
Both Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 shit on the FFXIII series from great heights. Whatever he makes, won't be as disastrous as these games. And as crap as the story is in KH, it's still better than whatever Toriyama made which is basically his sex fantasy with a fictional character.
I at least never felt disappointment over those games.Could not agree more. If KH1 and KH2 are 'bad' in any way, this is the 'bad' I want more of, if the alternative is FFXIII.
What... did I miss? Anything important?
it's still better than whatever Toriyama made which is basically his sex fantasy with a fictional character.
Disney is a shadow of what once was!
Yeah, squeenix definitely goofed big time but they probably invested too much in the concept to "go back" on it.
Really, the biggest problems with 13 were incomprehensible story with way too many made up words, many of which looked WAY too similar to each other, and how automatic the battle system was. The game did it's best to discourage the player involvement as much as possible, including making swapping "jobs" (sorry the name is eluding me) take way too long.
13-2 fixed those complaints for me. The story wasn't the greatest, but it removed the reliance on made up words and was certainly more cohesive. The battle system was still a little too automated for my tastes, but made combat more reflexive instead of 'tactical'. Job switches were near instant meaning if you saw an attack coming you could quickly change them to a more defensive stance and then quickly back out.
But as said above, not many people want to invest in a sequel when they didn't like the first game... Hell I didn't either, I just rented it.
I always wondered why this been a typical major complaint against FFXIII for so long and not toward any other FF, well any RPG in general to be honest. There isn't that many terms you need to grasp in the game compared to games like FFT, Mass Effect series, Dragon Age series, FFXII, Xenoblade, Tales of the Abyss (especially this...what is a seventh fonon?).
I think the L-Cie, Fal-Cie stuff is the least of XIII's problems. There's so many other things to be disappointed about.
Both Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 shit on the FFXIII series from great heights. Whatever he makes, won't be as disastrous as these games. And as crap as the story is in KH, it's still better than whatever Toriyama made which is basically his sex fantasy with a fictional character.
Just quoting this for posterity.Take several seats. What kind of fucked up thing to say about a person you don't even know and is only doing his job? You should be thankful he at least is making games while you are here bitching about the games he is making. Ugh, so hard to be self-controlled in threads like these.
Take several seats. What kind of fucked up thing to say about a person you don't even know and is only doing his job? You should be thankful he at least is making games while you are here bitching about the games he is making. Ugh, so hard to be self-controlled in threads like these.
Both Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 shit on the FFXIII series from great heights. Whatever he makes, won't be as disastrous as these games. And as crap as the story is in KH, it's still better than whatever Toriyama made which is basically his sex fantasy with a fictional character.
Take several seats. What kind of fucked up thing to say about a person you don't even know and is only doing his job? You should be thankful he at least is making games while you are here bitching about the games he is making. Ugh, so hard to be self-controlled in threads like these.
fans?43 pages? Christ lol.
I didn't know there were so many Lightning/FFXIII fans here on GAF.
43 pages? Christ lol.
I didn't know there were so many Lightning/FFXIII fans here on GAF.
Yeah, it's an odd complaint to me. It's like fans of Final Fantasy don't play or read anything in the Fantasy genre.
You should be thankful he at least is making games
Now that I think about it... haven't pretty much every mainline FF game ran like ass after 6?
hmmm... did 11 and 12 run decent? My mind is blank about their performance atm.
They were some of the most polished around.I don't recall having issues with any of the PS2 games.
I don't recall having issues with any of the PS2 games.
43 pages? Christ lol.
I didn't know there were so many Lightning/FFXIII fans here on GAF.
Now that I think about it... haven't pretty much every mainline FF game ran like ass after 6?
hmmm... did 11 and 12 run decent? My mind is blank about their performance atm.
FFXIV, like it or not.Like it or not it is the next and only mainline Final Fantasy game we will get in the next 4 years.
Has there ever been a company in the history of gaming that wanted to fail as much as SquareEnix?
Now that I think about it... haven't pretty much every mainline FF game ran like ass after 6?
hmmm... did 11 and 12 run decent? My mind is blank about their performance atm.
weren't the psx ones all capped around mid 20 fps?
I remember the days I'd wait anxiously for a FF game. And freak out of any FF related news.
Oh how times have changed.
FFXIV, like it or not.
I wonder how long can SquareEnix live off it's past glorys.
The new version is definitely everything I expected a HD FF to be.We'll probably like it seeing how things are turning out =D
Well, people are definitely still freaking out...