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17 year old teen throws 9 year old off of building roof (Update: expected to live)

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BeerSnob

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This is one of those stories where I would actually like to know the attempted killer's motivation. It's bizarre in so many ways. Was it purely for enjoyment, was he enraged by something the kid did? At this point I rarely care enough to ask why people do bad things, but this time I am very curious.
 
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Hobbun

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kinggroin said:
The very first thing I thought of when reading.

Hell, I quickly skimmed through to find the outcome.
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If he does make it through this, I just pray he has little, or no, permanent trauma, especially with his head.

Either way, if he does survive, he is going to probably have at least some sort of mental trauma. :(
 
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kinggroin

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Hobbun said:
If he does make it through this, I just pray he has little, or no, permanent trauma, especially with his head.

Either way, if he does survive, he is going to probably have at least some sort of mental trauma. :(
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Ditto. Its just...an unfair, horrible situation to be placed in, speaking nothing of how the parents must feel.
 
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LycanXIII

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Don't know if there's anything more recent.

Martin is currently clinging to life at NewYork-Presbyterian/Columbia hospital, where he remains in a medically-induced coma with internal bleeding, a broken leg and broken arm.
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http://gothamist.com/2013/02/04/teenager_accused_of_tossing_9-year-.php



More from the NY Times, pretty much the same, but that last part. :(

Freddy was in a medically induced coma and on life support at NewYork-Presbyterian/Columbia hospital. He suffered a broken leg and arm and internal bleeding that doctors had not been able to stop, Ms. Tannen said, adding that he might not survive.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/04/n...ed-in-9-year-olds-fall-from-a-bronx-roof.html
 
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ntropy

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oxrock said:
The body may be mostly developed by the age of 18 but brain development continues for many years afterwards extending into mid/late 20's primarily in areas mostly concerned with reason. So at 17 especially I don't think anyone should be tried as an adult. He should however certainly know by that age that throwing a child off a roof is a fucking horrible thing to do. The kid is in dire need of help and redirection, there's no doubt about it. I just don't think that locking him up in prison is the most ideal way to teach him to properly behave in society. He's dangerous, so lock him in a mental hospital and work towards addressing his issues so that when he does re-enter society he won't come back even worse.
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is the brain developed enough at 17 to know not to toss a kid off a building?
 
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SonnyBoy

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ntropy said:
is the brain developed enough at 17 to know not to toss a kid off a building?
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This. And the answer is yes. Honestly, you should know that by 13 at the latest. Hell, my 10 month old daughter knows that the edge of the bed isn't a fun place to play...
 
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YoungHav

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this is so fucked up. The sad part is if even if this POS is charged as an adult, he'll probably be out on the street in 20yrs.
 
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Mammoth Jones

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ntropy said:
is the brain developed enough at 17 to know not to toss a kid off a building?
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At 17 I knew enough to know that killing a kid was just plain evil. Would break my parents hearts. Would make all my friends and other family hate my guts and be shocked and ashamed of me. And would net me a looong prison sentence.

C'mon son, we're talking 17 years old....not 17 months.....

People used to start families at 17. Start their careers. Go to war. Etc.

A 17 year old knows right from wrong. This one just didn't give a fuck.
 
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Mackenzie 92

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Wonder if the kid is gonna have any permanent damage that he will have to live with his whole life?

The asshole that did it will be out before he's 30, no doubt.
 
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Raptomex

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Idk how I feel about the death penalty but every time I hear of a child dying because of a supposedly mature/adult person's sick, stupid behavior I feel like we should put them to death. I hope the kid pulls through and someone throws this dumb fuck off the roof.
 
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Parallacs

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Hope the kid makes it.

I can't imagine the terror going through his head as he was being hauled to the roof (presumably).
 
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FrenchToastDisciple

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This kid has to be a psychopath. Unfortunately, there isn't much you can really do about that. Dogs and cats are closer to what most people would consider human compared to psychopaths.
 
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Chunky

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YoungHav said:
this is so fucked up. The sad part is if even if this POS is charged as an adult, he'll probably be out on the street in 20yrs.
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Oh yeah, 20 years will just fly by, he's not going to be an entirely different person when he leaves at all.
 
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Dreams-Visions

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GK86 said:
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HELL naw.

the hell is going on with these crazy stories in the OT tonight?
 
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Killing_Joke

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Asshole probably thought it would have been an easy kill with a "accident" bullshit excuse. Thank god the kid survived to tell the truth. Hope he pulls through.

Another big part of the story is the fuck head super/tenant. Assholes needs to see some jail time as well.
 
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Baki

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Try him as an adult, although I wouldn't care if he was thrown off the same building in the same horrific and traumatising manner.

Fuck this world.
 
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starchild excalibur

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I'm happy I'm not in the law profession because it'd be so hard for me to not act based off emotion sometimes. God damn, the sentencing I would give this kid otherwise.

I hope the 9 year old pulls through.
 
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GK86

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Just found this. This is from last night, unless something has drastically changed(and it is possible), Freddy's family said he will live. :)

Aska is saying it is an accident.

The twisted teen accused of pushing his 9-year-old neighbor off the roof of their five-story Bronx apartment building told cops it was an accident — but admitted he didn’t go for help.

“I grabbed Freddy around the legs,” Casmine Aska, 17, said, referring to victim Freddy Martin, according to court papers.

“His feet were off the ground. I turned around. I slipped and Freddy fell. I did not call 911. I did not tell my mother. I did not check to see if Freddy was okay.”

Bizarrely, Aska said, “I did not hear the thud until I went into the apartment.”

Prosecutors say Aska dragged Martin up the stairs of their building on Nelson Ave. in Morris Heights on Friday, picked the boy up and threw him off the roof.

Before losing consciousness, Freddy managed to tell EMTs, “Cas dragged me to the roof and threw me off — I don’t know why,” according to court papers.

Aska’s lawyer, Katherine Dyer, insisted in Bronx Criminal court Sunday that the plunge was “a tragic accident.” She described the teen as a dedicated high school student and church volunteer.

Aska has four prior arrests related to robbery, assault, harassment and menacing, law enforcement sources said.

Aska was ordered held without bail. He asked to speak to his teary-eyed mother as he was led from the courtroom.

Martin, who loves baseball and painting, remains on life support and in a medically induced coma with collapsed lungs and a broken leg, arm and ribs.

He is expected to live, according to his family.

“My son is very strong — he will survive,” said the boy’s father, Fred Martin, who spent Sunday at his son’s side at New York Presbyterian-Columbia Medical Center.

“It is a miracle.”
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Valnen

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Chunky said:
Oh yeah, 20 years will just fly by, he's not going to be an entirely different person when he leaves at all.
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Doesn't matter, anyone that would throw a 9 year old off a building does not deserve to live in society. Ever. I'm also not buying the accident bullshit. His lawyers probably came up with that one.
 
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Slavik81

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GK86 said:
Aska is saying it is an accident.
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I kind of wondered if it was remotely possible that somehow it actually was just an accident, despite the suspect's history, and despite the kid's statement...

But his own statement is nonsense and even his admitted actions were reprehensible.
 
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SenorArdilla

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GK86 said:
Just found this. This is from last night, unless something has drastically changed(and it is possible), Freddy's family said he will live. :)

Aska is saying it is an accident.
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So he "accidentally" tossed a 9 year old off a building, and didn't bother to check or call 911. Wouldn't that be considered criminal negligence?
 
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SneakyStephan

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He accidentally dragged him up several flights of stairs then accidentally lifted his feet off the ground.

He'll accidentally be found guilty of attempted murder and go to jail for 20 years ^^
 
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GK86

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Aska says 'his brain froze.' He went to eat, and then take a nap after tossing him.

An accused Bronx bully claims he was too traumatized to dial 911 after watching his 9-year-old neighbor fall from a five-story roof.

Casmine Aska, charged with attempted murder in the near-fatal Feb. 1 plunge of little Freddy Martin, told the Daily News that he opted for food and a nap instead of summoning help.

“I didn’t call the NYPD because my brain froze,” Aska said Friday on Rikers Island. “I was shivering, I was crying, I just went to my aunt’s. . . . My whole world stopped.”

With the child’s battered body lying on the Nelson St. sidewalk, Aska said he grabbed a nervous bite of food at his aunt’s home and planned to “go to sleep from the anxiety.”

The 17-year-old suspect was instead grabbed by police after Freddy told paramedics that Aska tossed him 50 feet down to the Morris Heights street.

“Cas dragged me to the roof and threw me off — I don’t know why,” court papers quoted Freddy as saying.

The critically-injured boy’s father blasted Aska’s story as self-serving.

“This is outrageous, that he would come out with that,” said the elder Fred Martin. “He’s trying to save his soul. I don’t believe that. I’m very sure it is untrue.”

Young Freddie survived despite suffering two collapsed lungs, along with a broken arm, leg and ribs.

After identifying Aska, the boy lost consciousness in the back of an ambulance headed to New York Presbyterian-Columbia Medical Center.

Authorities charged Aska dragged the boy to the roof of the building and tossed him over the side. Witnesses said they heard the child pleading, “Stop! Stop!” before his body hit the street with a thud.

According to Aska, Freddy was hanging from the edge of the building by his fingertips for 10 seconds before the fall. His attempt to rescue the dangling youth proved fruitless, insisted Aska, who wouldn’t say how he got to the roof.

“I told him to swing his other hand so I could grab it and pull it up,” Aska said. “But when he swung, he fell. . . . It was unintentional. I did not throw him.”

Aska blamed his four prior arrests, including busts for robbery and menacing, on hanging out with “stupid friends.”

Defense attorney Katherine Dyer described Aska as a church volunteer, and said the fall was “a tragic accident.”

The suspect is jailed without bail pending a March 6 arraignment. He and Freddy were neighbors in the building, and saw each other almost every day.

Freddy was friendly with Aska’s kid brother.

“I hope Freddy gets better, and I hope I can go home,” said Aska, who still hopes to join the Marines before a career in law enforcement. “I didn’t want to hurt anyone. . . . I just want to go home.”

The 5-foot-9, 165-pound suspect initially told cops that he had no part in the plunge. But he insisted the initial false story came because he was “scared.”

If he could speak with Freddy’s family, Aska said, he would tell them how sorry he was.

“I’d apologize, because Freddy got hurt,” he said.
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He is full of shit. Under one of the captions, it says "Freddy remains hospitalized." I haven't been able to track down anything in terms of his health/condition.
 
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