What I like about that scene is that even though its a revelation that is pretty obvious to the audience, the idea is so completely foreign to the people in the show. What is clear to the outside observer is something that sounds absurd to the people within the society that have lived this way for generations.
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Winter of Anime 2013 |OT -6| How much lower can we go?!
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firehawk12
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But we are all crazy!
Just saying but you should proceed directly to 31.
first two minutes of SSY 25:
Really enjoyed how Kiroumaru was faithful to the end. In the end, the distrust for him--despite most evidence indicating otherwise--was due to him being a monster rat, and both the characters and the viewers make that same mistake. The distrust essentially stemmed from him being the Other, which is what a lifetime of systematic ostracization and extermination does to people, I guess.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Someone figured out that Yui's house would cost a million dollars to build and maintain apparently, so they're all probably very rich.
Spec fi is like magic realism. It's a way to trick people into reading about books about girls with giant breasts fighting werewolves and robots while commenting on the true nature of human subjectivity!
Chet Rippo
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It's a graduation trip, I doubt their parents
of which you see Yui's parents in the movie
The movie also gives a reason to why they decide to go to London.
None whatsoever. The announcement literally seems to have been 'By the way we're making another movie, bye!'
Strikers is definitely salvageable, but it'll take a lot more work than the other two movies. The pacing and amount of fluff were big issues, but honestly, the Numbers were just boring, and reducing the series down to the length of a movie is going to make that even worse if anything. I'm up for it if they can pull it off though, but part of me would rather they just did something in the middle. I did enjoy Strikers for all its flaws, but I'm really not fond of what the franchise has been doing since in terms of new material, and Strikers was sort of the point where it started going downhill - but as you say, I can't see them retconning it too mercilessly because the currently running Vivid and Force wouldn't have a base to stand on anymore.
I'm going to wait and see anyway. Much as I love the franchise (in principle, anyway), 'third movie!' isn't enough to get me excited now they've finished with the best material.
Oh ho. Ask him if he had any significant involvement in Infinity Moment!
You'll have to read Accel World Vol. 10 to find out.
They get disconnected, so it's kind of a tie, but considering it was Kirito's first time playing Brain Burst and he didn't know how anything worked, it's safe enough to say that he's more overpowered than Cartman.
I need to read more spec fi.
Yui's parents are in the movie? Interesting I guess.
And oh yeah, why aren't they bringing their instruments? Is all the music they play gonna be played back home in Japan? That's...kinda lame.
And I know why Mio wanted to go to London, but I guess the question didn't get resolved in this episode.
This is why you can't trust those syphy writers, always so tricksy with their misrepresentative labels.
Jex
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Not really issues:
it's known that squealer took the kids so it wouldn't be that hard to go find them. It's not really worth any time to mention that, hey, we found them.
I don't think Saki has any special powers, she just seems to be an extremely perceptive person and that is manifested by her 'talking' to Shun. I don't think we're meant to think she is literally talking to the dead.
I don't think Saki has any special powers, she just seems to be an extremely perceptive person and that is manifested by her 'talking' to Shun. I don't think we're meant to think she is literally talking to the dead.
What purpose was there in making Kayaba, a sociopath who tortured and killed thousands of people and ruined the lives of thousands more, a sympathetic misunderstood genius who had a morality-transcending "bond" with Kirito? Good and evil are so clear-cut in every other aspect of the narrative that going to great lengths to humanize the main antagonist feels thematically dissonant. Why end the story with
Kirito willfully furthering the ambitions of a man who killed several of his friends when Kirito is demonstrated to be a coding/hacking genius and could have created something akin to The Seed believably in the context of his character
Jex
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I meant to include 'perceptive'.
I can't really disagree as it's never made particularly clear either way, but we've never been led to believe that Cantus can do magical things like turn back time or bring back the dead, it appears to operate under the laws of physics (well, made up physics but you get my point).
My reasoning is that no self respecting author would write something like "I used my psychic powers to implant a piece of my psyche in your mind so I can communicate you from the past at your critical moment of need."
If you're going to pull something like that you need to be up front about it, or else it's just a cop out, like the leaf the dryad tree gave Tristran in Stardust.
If you're going to pull something like that you need to be up front about it, or else it's just a cop out, like the leaf the dryad tree gave Tristran in Stardust.
NeonZ
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Am I missing something?
When did Shun "die"? I thought he had just been exiled from the village due to Cantus leak, and killing him would be pretty much impossible because his powers healed his own body in case of any damage.
If he didn't "die", he probably underwent some sort of metamorphosis that turn him into something something fundamentally unhuman. It wouldn't make sense given his character for him to cling onto life where it's potentially a danger to those around him. He was always the most morally sound of the group.
Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory 10
Oh noez wai du dey haf 2 fayt? WAAAAI?
Seriously, what the eff Nina. That guy stole a Gundam and just fired a nuclear missile into a fleet of dudes. Why does Ko have to fight him? BECAUSE HE FIRED A NUCLEAR MISSILE INTO A FLEET OF DUDES. HE'S EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL.
I mean REALLY. I know it's a rule that you HAVE to bitch about people fighting in Gundam, but could you pick a worse moment? HE FIRED a NUCLEAR WARHEAD into A MOTHER LOVING FLEET.
A NUKE YOU GAVE HIM. WHY DID YOU BUILD A NUCLEAR CAPABLE GUNDAM ANYWAY?
Oh my goodness, this episode was THE carnival of stupid. The worst part is, 10 episodes and an allegedly serious relationship in (everyone in this show behaves like my three year old nephew) Nina is still whining because her precious Gundams get hurt.
OH GEE NINA, THEY'RE ROBOTS FOR WAR. OF COURSE THEY GONNA BLOW UP.
Seriously, Ko got slapped last episode (best part of show), but it is high time Nina Purpleton got slapped.
Also, honey, I know your NAME is PURPLEton, but could you try and not wear purple for just one scene?
Oh noez wai du dey haf 2 fayt? WAAAAI?
Seriously, what the eff Nina. That guy stole a Gundam and just fired a nuclear missile into a fleet of dudes. Why does Ko have to fight him? BECAUSE HE FIRED A NUCLEAR MISSILE INTO A FLEET OF DUDES. HE'S EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL.
I mean REALLY. I know it's a rule that you HAVE to bitch about people fighting in Gundam, but could you pick a worse moment? HE FIRED a NUCLEAR WARHEAD into A MOTHER LOVING FLEET.
A NUKE YOU GAVE HIM. WHY DID YOU BUILD A NUCLEAR CAPABLE GUNDAM ANYWAY?
Oh my goodness, this episode was THE carnival of stupid. The worst part is, 10 episodes and an allegedly serious relationship in (everyone in this show behaves like my three year old nephew) Nina is still whining because her precious Gundams get hurt.
OH GEE NINA, THEY'RE ROBOTS FOR WAR. OF COURSE THEY GONNA BLOW UP.
Seriously, Ko got slapped last episode (best part of show), but it is high time Nina Purpleton got slapped.
Also, honey, I know your NAME is PURPLEton, but could you try and not wear purple for just one scene?
Chet Rippo
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Yeah, you see them when Yui is getting ready to leave for the air port.
They do bring their instruments.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Put an abstract image on the cover, like a half-burnt out cigarette next to a pile of silver bullets and maybe a cross and you're set!
We can't all be Tolkien.
I can't believe that happened. lol
Now that I've had some time to think about it and I haven't tainted myself with a Last Blitz of Zeon yet, I think Gato is the only character I liked and even then he wasn't exceptionally well developed. Still better than Kou though.
Anavel Gato
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- Stole a fucking Gundam from a Federation base
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Nuked a fleet!
Kou Araki
- Refuses to eat his carrots.
I am really surprised at how many people think this - I thought it was clear in episode 10 but obviously it wasn't.
Shun kills himself with his powers. He says "This time I'll end it, I can't go on like this". The symbolism of his mask smashing as the final shot of the episode made it very clear that he's dead.
Can't argue with these here FACTS.
We can't all be Tolkien.
Truly, there was only one "fantasy" book ever written, the rest are either outdated myths or rip offs.
Lol I had that same line of thought, but then I was like fuck it, let's see what comes out.
Actually, I was thinking about a similar question, albeit in a less abrasive way. I'm not a journalist or a blogger (I'm more like an unpaid freelancer that enjoys this kind of thing), so I can get away with asking difficult questions. I won't lose any sleep if I wind up getting blacklisted from anime convention lol.
You can't believe that a cliched fanfic scenario happened in a series written by a fan-fiction quality writer?
Chet Rippo
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Someone figured out that Yui's house would cost a million dollars to build and maintain apparently, so they're all probably very rich.
That, and not to mention the fact that Yui's parents are always out on trips to Germany and such. The Hirasawa family definitely has a lot of money.
All right then.
Though if Yui was my child I would probably have reservations about that. I mean, she's scatterbrained and airheaded as all hell. The others are probably okay on their own, they mostly have good heads on their shoulders, but Yui...I have my doubts.
Did they ever run the numbers on the stuff Shaft creates, like the Araragi's or Kaname's houses?Someone figured out that Yui's house would cost a million dollars to build and maintain apparently, so they're all probably very rich.
Madoka's family buys yachts on Ebay.
Dedication Through Light
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Chousoku Henkei Gyrozetter 21
Really depressingly awesome episode. THough I think their ages are way off, Touma doesnt seem 25, Kakeru seems much older than 11, and Shunsuke, 14 is a bit too low. But regardless, they did depressingly smash it out with devotion power. Shunsuke's hi-ougi is definitely up there for best one since Kakeru's. The supersonic bullet scene at the 18 minute mark is one of the series best moments to date
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Really depressingly awesome episode. THough I think their ages are way off, Touma doesnt seem 25, Kakeru seems much older than 11, and Shunsuke, 14 is a bit too low. But regardless, they did depressingly smash it out with devotion power. Shunsuke's hi-ougi is definitely up there for best one since Kakeru's. The supersonic bullet scene at the 18 minute mark is one of the series best moments to date
those dual guns, the change in perspective, and the huge blast after all those shots, mindblown.
Chousoku Henkei Gyrozetter 21
Really depressingly awesome episode. THough I think their ages are way off, Touma doesnt seem 25, Kakeru seems much older than 11, and Shunsuke, 14 is a bit too low. But regardless, they did depressingly smash it out with devotion power. Shunsuke's hi-ougi is definitely up there for best one since Kakeru's. The supersonic bullet scene at the 18 minute mark is one of the series best moments to date.those dual guns, the change in perspective, and the huge blast after all those shots, mindblown.
That car looks like a crazy mix of a 360 Modena and a Sbarro GT.
Mmmm... I could go for some Sbarro deep dish pizza right now.
Im talking about Espera Sbarro, a swiss car manufacturer.
I know, you just reminded me of an old pizza place I haven't gone to in years.
Jex
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Thats how most people know Sbarro.
There might be some spoilers for Django Unchained in here too! Warning!
I really love how the ending put that into perspective. All the unease, speculation, and lack of certainty in the show was really played up not for a twist or for plot gimmicks, but to basically put the viewer in the perspective of the people in this alien setting. They really did a great job of indoctrinating the audience over the course of the series, so it pays off by the end.
The most disturbing part about how the show ultimately ends is that the characters basically sacrificed anyone they perceived as "not human" or "not us" just to preserve their existence and way of life. The plan to sacrifice Kiromaru, kill the "Fiend", and destroy Yakomaru's plan all made sense from the perspective of those who won this war, but any satisfaction of watching Yakomaru's defeat after hating him so much for most of the series is shattered by the realization that what we hated the most about him was also what vindicated him at the very end - he simply proved that he was just as smart as humans and had the same fears, desires, and ambitions humans have for his race at large.
The comparison with Django's plot is actually pretty disturbing. Kiromaru would actually fit well in the role of Samuel L Jackson as the "house negro" of sorts, while Yakomaru was pretty much a Django character. The story could be so easily reversed with a few minor tweaks, showing how heroic the revolution was, and the bond formed over the years between them and their Messiah - from birth.
It's hard to justify any of the specific actions on either side, because it's just so revolting and unpleasant, but I guess that reinforces how realistic this depiction of "war" is. There are no real winners morally, and the only way to move on is to try and forget the atrocities committed in the name of "justice" by the winning side.
The most disturbing part about how the show ultimately ends is that the characters basically sacrificed anyone they perceived as "not human" or "not us" just to preserve their existence and way of life. The plan to sacrifice Kiromaru, kill the "Fiend", and destroy Yakomaru's plan all made sense from the perspective of those who won this war, but any satisfaction of watching Yakomaru's defeat after hating him so much for most of the series is shattered by the realization that what we hated the most about him was also what vindicated him at the very end - he simply proved that he was just as smart as humans and had the same fears, desires, and ambitions humans have for his race at large.
The comparison with Django's plot is actually pretty disturbing. Kiromaru would actually fit well in the role of Samuel L Jackson as the "house negro" of sorts, while Yakomaru was pretty much a Django character. The story could be so easily reversed with a few minor tweaks, showing how heroic the revolution was, and the bond formed over the years between them and their Messiah - from birth.
It's hard to justify any of the specific actions on either side, because it's just so revolting and unpleasant, but I guess that reinforces how realistic this depiction of "war" is. There are no real winners morally, and the only way to move on is to try and forget the atrocities committed in the name of "justice" by the winning side.
Shame it's not two branches of the same company.
firehawk12
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Not for nothing, but from what I'm reading, H. G. Wells already did this.
Ah, well, god speed to you then. lol
Or as Colbert might put it, "NAIL HIM".
I figure there was a bridge that even he wouldn't cross. Never underestimate Kawahara.
I'm assuming they're all upper-middle class anyway. Although remember when Yui tried to get a job to buy a guitar? That was the last time there was any semblance of reality in their world.
Those aren't houses... they're more liminal spaces that exist on the fringes of space and time.
Okay, but if I were a Federation scientist and that guy was out there firing nukes at my side and also trying to kill my so-called boyfriend, I don't think I'd be whining about why both of them have to fight. I'd be hoping Doesn't Eat Carrots kicked his butt.
I also don't think I'd be worried about a freaking Gundam of Mass Destruction I had designed over the life of my so-called boyfriend.
Yeah, Ko is pretty terrible. Nina is the worst character, though. Then Ko, then that one mean guy on the boat who wants to bone Nina and kill Ko. Really they're all awful. It's just a very crappy cast.
GTO 30
So Miyabi's entire plan was unraveled by Kikuchi and Kanzaki (just kiss already!), but the real clinch came when former rich bitch Anko (who I had confused last episode with Miyabi) went and straight up confronted her. Vice Principal Uchiyamada tried AGAIN unsuccessfully to get Onizuka fired. Fuyutsuki was very upset to see Onizuka covered in teen girls, and no Crestas were destroyed in the making of this particular episode. That we know of.
Interestingly, I'm not entirely sure that Onizuka will be dealing out Miyabi's punishment. Not this arc, anyway. He seems determined to do like the other victim of Miyabi's scheme and earn the money he lost back. Pretty sure that The Gang will be dealing out Miyabi's punishment instead.
Jex
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Whoops, I meant the other work.
Not for nothing, but from what I'm reading, H. G. Wells already did this.
Is there anything HG Wells didn't do first though? He beat reality, he beat Half Life, why wouldn't he beat some random Japanese scifi novel?
Oh you'll see.
Ah yeah, that's what I meant as well. Definitely figurative, making it literal would be too stupid to consider.
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