To be fair, it did pop into to my mind that they might be aiming for more interaction between the cast. (And I admit the word "Persona" did pop for a second.)
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PokéBOMB VI: Return of the Fairy (Pokémon E3 Information Summary)
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To be fair, it did pop into to my mind that they might be aiming for more interaction between the cast. (And I admit the word "Persona" did pop for a second.)
Asshole rivals can be pretty good comic relief, so I would say I do miss them a bit, but overall the "real" rivals with personalities are better. With that said, it would be neat to have both types serviced, not sure why they can't do that. There are already multiple rivals in the games, one of them could just be a dick.
Rivals need to be more surprising and challenging. I haven't played BW2 yet so I don't know how that one guys is but he looks cool.
I personally think they need to drop this whole "we're friends" aspect. I think it makes Pokemon too soft. There should be a character who poses you a challenge while also being a threat. Whatever happened to the classic rivial trope where you could be walking in a town and all of a sudden that random asshat shows up to screw you over?? (We all know we didn't heal before then.... OR save!!)
Nowadays its like you follow your rival someplace, Know the fight is coming up shortly, or start doing a particular story mission with them.
That's why I connected with Silver more than anyone really. He was a guy that had nothing to do with what I was trying to acheive, but yet he was on my ass every step of the way. It made me want to beat him every time. Gary was good too.
I want a Rival who has it out for me. A Vegeta perhaps. All ways looking to get a step ahead. That was the point of Vegeta & Goku's relationship. They made each other stronger by competition.
I personally think they need to drop this whole "we're friends" aspect. I think it makes Pokemon too soft. There should be a character who poses you a challenge while also being a threat. Whatever happened to the classic rivial trope where you could be walking in a town and all of a sudden that random asshat shows up to screw you over?? (We all know we didn't heal before then.... OR save!!)
Nowadays its like you follow your rival someplace, Know the fight is coming up shortly, or start doing a particular story mission with them.
That's why I connected with Silver more than anyone really. He was a guy that had nothing to do with what I was trying to acheive, but yet he was on my ass every step of the way. It made me want to beat him every time. Gary was good too.
I want a Rival who has it out for me. A Vegeta perhaps. All ways looking to get a step ahead. That was the point of Vegeta & Goku's relationship. They made each other stronger by competition.
I guess, but I preferred it when the rivals were villains themselves because it gave you a sense of accomplishment for defeating them. The rivals of the past 3 gens haven't felt much different from just regular trainers that just make you battle them every once in a while. Zero personality and wasted opportunity, tbh. You don't feel the competitiveness at all.
I never felt threatened by rivals, since they were always too weak (or at least until gen 3), or fought you during times when something far more threatening was happening. (Villains or tougher battles like gym leaders.)
The only games in which the rivals were villains were G/S/C and B/W.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
By peter out I mean finding out their true goals. It'd be pretty boring if every one and their mother wanted to be a Pokemon master. In fact, that's why I love the story of BW. And even if they had changed their goals they were still kickass.
N pretty much mimicked Green in Gen I
Yeah it's something too similar and hilarious.
While I can't defend Hugh for that, Barry and N fill that niche really well.
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Barry was okay. Best rival in recent generations, definitely. Still wasn't convinced by N.
I agree, starting your journey with your friends, like B&W is great.
Now you have 4 friends instead of 2, and I expect all of them to have an interesting story.
AdmiralSnackbar
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Hey look its the standard children's anime team of dopey fat guy, short nerdy guy, and girl. Who will of course be joined by the protagonist and serious rival.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Hey look its the standard children's anime team of dopey fat guy, nerdy guy, and girl.
Yeah
Though my first thought was Battle Network!
Like I said, N is like Green but with personality and motivation.
ColtraineGF
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Don't really care about what sort of rivals I have - I just want a good game.
And since it was lost on last page:
And since it was lost on last page:
Widening your group of peers is an interesting move. I wanna see if there's some Five-Man Band sort of scenarios that arise from this arrangement.
The Leader: You (male nickname: X-Meister
The Lancer: Calem/Serena
The Smart Guy: Trevor
The Big Guy: Tierno
The Chick: Shauna
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How is N anything like Green/Blue? N has terribly soppy motivation. It's like being harangued by a wet tissue.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I don't care whether a rival is friendly or not as long I fight them often enough and they don't have a shit team. Hugh was such a disappointment.
Also, its really hilarious seeing people on other sites freak out over being friends with a fat guy.
Also, its really hilarious seeing people on other sites freak out over being friends with a fat guy.
Professional Pokémon Photographer? This can only mean one thing...Pokémon Snap U!!!
lol yea, it's nice to see they are going for some variety.
lol yea, it's nice to see they are going for some variety.
ColtraineGF
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An interesting thing picked up by someone on /vp/: Apparently, there are realtime shadows and illumination affected by cloud cover.
ScraftyDevil
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I would pay all the money for this. What would it be called, though? Mantiroar?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
He wants to liberate Pokemon because he was raised as a tarzan.
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I have to say one thing I am liking about this generation so far is the Pokemon designs. I absolutely hated the vast majority of Pokemon from Gen 4, and Gen 5 was very marmite for me in that I either loved a design or hated it with very few middle grounds, but so far I've either liked a design or at worse been apathetic towards it. The only exceptions are Sylveon and the new Mewtwo forme, which are terrible, but the quality to quantity ratio is pretty strong so far.
ColtraineGF
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Ready to take names.
すすぎ said:
Gonzo The Great
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Because they're not femboys, right? Tierno looks totally RAD.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Oh btw, Noble Roar sounds neat. Essentially a better Growl - Atk AND SAtk is decreased!
Gillian Seed
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So was the rumor about Fairy being Immune to Dragon confirmed? I hope not. Doing 4XDamage and Resisting them is plenty strong enough.
ColtraineGF
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It's only confirmed that it is super effective against Dragon.
It's 2X damage.
They do x2 damage to dragon
Gillian Seed
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I see. Thanks. Fairy Type sounds great, just not the Immunity rumor I was reading about. Lightning/Ground and Normal/Ghost makes sense. Dragon/Fairy not so much. Lol
Zoramon089
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An interesting thing picked up by someone on /vp/: Apparently, there are realtime shadows and illumination affected by cloud cover.
I LOVE the small touches Gamefreak makes. Like the reflected clouds in puddles in R/S
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Even BW/2 has that marching sound when you move or stop, or do actions, which are mixed into the background music.
Regulus Tera
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I'm surprised that almost none of the "which old pokeyman will become a fairy" discussion never seems to include Celebi.
Makes it that much better, I doubt this game will leave my 3DS come October.An interesting thing picked up by someone on /vp/: Apparently, there are realtime shadows and illumination affected by cloud cover.
-I was hoping for Xavier/Yvvone, but it seems like those went the way of Blair/Whitlea. But I guess Calem/Serena are still better than Hilbert/Hilda
-Looks like we're getting more "legitimate" cutscenes this gen. Every new generation seems like they try harder and harder to improve the story in these games, and these cutscenes are definitely going to help that.
-Didn't like how all the rivals looked at first, but if GF can do this right, I could see them becoming endearing characters. Still can't stand Trevor and Shauna's designs, though. Hopefully those grow on me, because Tierno's definitely did.
-Speaking of Tierno.....hat or hair?
-Looks like we're getting more "legitimate" cutscenes this gen. Every new generation seems like they try harder and harder to improve the story in these games, and these cutscenes are definitely going to help that.
-Didn't like how all the rivals looked at first, but if GF can do this right, I could see them becoming endearing characters. Still can't stand Trevor and Shauna's designs, though. Hopefully those grow on me, because Tierno's definitely did.
-Speaking of Tierno.....hat or hair?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Calem still sounds odd though.
Oh god it's Brendan all over again
PUFF ROH DAH!
Sylveon the Dragonslayer fanart series make me giggle
Oh god it's Brendan all over again
PUFF ROH DAH!
Sylveon the Dragonslayer fanart series make me giggle
Whoa buddy, not even all that serious... lol
They just dont appeal to me character design wise, For all I know they may have great story arcs. Hopefully one becomes a gym leader or starts working for the evil team.
Im tired of the Pokemon trope norm... shake it up. Make it exciting
It would be really cool if the Whismur evo line went fairy. That'd be tight.
I feel we will get:
Clefairy (Given)
Chansey (Given)
Togepi (Given)
Snubbull (Buff)
Skitty
Castform
Snorunt
Those are just from the 'Fairy' Egg types lol.. So many Pokemon , I cant think from my head...
What else do you all think will get a type switch? I want a Bug/Fairy
I feel we will get:
Clefairy (Given)
Chansey (Given)
Togepi (Given)
Snubbull (Buff)
Skitty
Castform
Snorunt
Those are just from the 'Fairy' Egg types lol.. So many Pokemon , I cant think from my head...
What else do you all think will get a type switch? I want a Bug/Fairy
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I think that the Clefairy, Chansey, Audino, Togepi, Snubbull, Skitty, and Mawile lines are almost guaranteed to go Fairy. Phione and Manaphy also stand very good chances. I think the Cottonee line and and Cherubi line have an outside chance. That's about it for extant lines. I'd love it if Snorlax went Normal/Fairy, though. That'd be a 10/10 decision by GameFreak.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
They've been shaking it a lot you know
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Shaking the story up, maybe. Core gameplay hasn't really been touched since the Physical/Special split.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The gameplay is mostly polishing of existing stuff. Notice how most moves and abilities are mostly "In Generation I, in Generation II-IV, in Generation V"? For example, Sturdy in Gen V became a godsend. Even if they didn't add much, they polished the pre-existing gameplay so much that I wouldn't even touch HGSS because of the awful speed. Then there's hidden abilities, etc.
DragonKnight
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Someone should have asked GF why they made Fairy and not some other type super effective against dragon. Posters on vp are saying it doesnt make sense but i remember a poster here posted a quote from an author about fairy tales allowing us to know that dragons can be beaten or whatever. It would be nuts if that was the inspiration.
DragonKnight
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If it aint broke...
