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Jonathon Blow: PS4 Games Were Running on Dev Kits, Not High-End PCs

nbthedude

Member
Well I'm not doubting his game is running on a dev kit, others may be too. But with posts like this, I'm not sure how it can be confirmed.

Because actual devs confirmed it. More than one.

Random guy on internet could still be right about the game he saw running on PC. That doesnt' change that actual devs have confirmed their own games running on PS3 dev kits on the show floor.
 

kassatsu

Banned
A thing to remember about Tiny Brains is that it is PC/PS3/PS4 and possibly 360 if they find a publisher. Not an exclusive title, where as the XBOne stuff is.

They weren't trying to pass it off as a PS4 version. It was the PC version showing what it would play like with PS4 controllers.
 

evolution

Member
Why does this ultimately matter? Is it some indication that MS is going to have to delay past November? Because if it isn't then what is the point of making a case about it?

I remember when kojima first showed MGS4, and then what we ended up with. Thats why it matters to me
 

SPDIF

Member
Because actual devs confirmed it. More than one.

Random guy on internet could still be right about the game he saw running on PC. That doesnt' change that actual devs have confirmed their own games running on PS3 dev kits on the show floor.

If you say so. I see the title's been changed now, so I guess at least one mod agrees with me.

but if you actually read what you quote: "it was the PC version"

So not the PS4 version running on a PS4 dev kit then? It doesn't confirm they have the PS4 version up and running.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Is that even confirmed or are we jumping on the negative xbone train?

It is confirmed by multiple NeoGAF mod approved trusted sources.

Obviously Microsoft is never going to admit it, but they just started working on the UI 7 months go (confirmed in a video where they showed off the UI), they're having massive ESRam yield issues (causing the topics you see about stores getting significantly less Xbox One consoles than PS4 consoles), and everything from game development to console design is super far behind Sony at this stage. Sony has been prepping to recover into this gen for a considerable amount of time.
 

nbthedude

Member
Is that even confirmed or are we jumping on the negative xbone train?

CBOAT said it and he was pretty goddamn right about most of the things he said would be revealed at the MS press conference. So I'd mark it as a pretty solid piece of info.

After all, his word and his balls and his enemies tears are his bidet.
 

nbthedude

Member
If you say so. I see the title's been changed now, so I guess at least one mod agrees with me.



So not the PS4 version running on a PS4 dev kit then?

Well it's a weird title change given that I posted the confirmation from two devs in the OP.
 

Pikma

Banned
The gap keeps getting bigger and bigger, can't see how anyone without any company preference, which is actually my case, would go for an Xbone instead of a PS4 right now.
 

tranciful

Member
So not the PS4 version running on a PS4 dev kit then? It doesn't confirm they have the PS4 version up and running.

But they said it was the PC version of the game, so what's the problem? It also wasn't as Sony's booth, so if they were advertising it as the PS4 version it'd be their bad and not Sony's. But it sounds like they're telling people it's the PC version, so there'd be nothing misleading about it. False equivalencies.
 

Rebel Leader

THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
It is confirmed by multiple NeoGAF mod approved trusted sources.

Obviously Microsoft is never going to admit it, but they just started working on the UI 7 months go (confirmed in a video where they showed off the UI), they're having massive ESRam yield issues (causing the topics you see about stores getting significantly less Xbox One consoles than PS4 consoles), and everything from game development to console design is super far behind Sony at this stage. Sony has been prepping to recover into this gen for a considerable amount of time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHQdpnYFl7k


I couldn't resist
 

Amir0x

Banned
Please not another Xbox One bashing thread, don't we have enough already?

Thread bashing is against the rules; just a heads up. And it's new threads for new news. If you have a problem with it, why don't you post in that Xbox One Satisfaction thread? It seems Unicorns, Rainbows and Fairy Dust are what you desire, to be insulated from the cold hard facts of reality.
 

itxaka

Defeatist
CBOAT said it and he was pretty goddamn right about most of the things he said would be revealed at the MS press conference. So I'd mark it as a pretty solid piece of info.

After all, his word and his balls and his enemies tears are his bidet.

Oh, ok. I missed most of cboat's threads, so I didn't knew it was mentioned by him.

Lol, the ring of death again? Please ms, don't you dare.
 

Tripolygon

Banned
I witnessed a PS4 running Knack crash at E3 and it definitely looked like a dev kit to me...

Captured a photo here: http://www.exophase.com/60285/knack-crash-reveals-new-ps4-details/
PS4 OS

PS4-Error.jpg
 

dLMN8R

Member
If everyone can look at an anecdote and assume one thing, is it allowable to present this anecdote that proves the other thing?

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Boke1879

Member
But they said it was the PC version of the game, so what's the problem? It also wasn't as Sony's booth, so if they were advertising it as the PS4 version it'd be their bad and not Sony's. But it sounds like they're telling people it's the PC version, so there'd be nothing misleading about it. False equivalencies.

Hopefully this means PS4 controllers will be more compatible with PCs
 

Boke1879

Member
If everyone can look at an anecdote and assume one thing, is it allowable to present this anecdote that proves the other thing?

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Sorry for the double post. This is very possible as well and could very well be the case, but still why not show your game running on a dev kit?

Now you have this news coming out and hitting sites and forums giving the mentality that you're really not all that ready to show your games. Not to mention that you're game won't be that impressive come launch.
 

fillup

Member
Forza/Quantum Break graphics/performance don't mean much when it's not actually running on the right hardware.


I'm pretty sure the dev said Forza was running on Xbox One hardware in one of the interviews I watched, and a dev on B3D forum confirmed Ryse was running on actual Xbox One hardware, not a pc.
 

TheCloser

Banned
Sorry for the double post. This is very possible as well and could very well be the case, but still why not show your game running on a dev kit?

Now you have this news coming out and hitting sites and forums giving the mentality that you're really not all that ready to show your games. Not to mention that you're game won't be that impressive come launch.

Not to write this off or anything but we already had a report in another thread that Forza was running on a laptop so if Microsoft's own Forza was running on a laptop, what does that say? My question is did the guy see the dev kits or was he told? I dunno, just food for thought. I believe the other thread i was mentioning was the one that said, why is xbox one games being shown on gtx 7xx
 

Tripolygon

Banned
Were the controllers wired or wireless?

The Below image nabbed from this video looks to show a cable coming out the front, assuming USB, and then the rear all covered up, I'm assuming for cables and vents, as the consoles were behind the glass.

And bam another confirmation of people playing on the actual PS4 console.
 
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