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The biker that was run over by the SUV in NYC might be paralyzed for life
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RPGCrazied
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The only ones that should go to jail are the ones hitting on the car. Specially the one hitting the drivers seat window with his helmet.
Yup. My old man keeps a Glock 9mm loaded w/ hollow points in his center console. He's not a hothead, not a Billy-Badass, and that gun has never come out of said console, but if someone was beating on his window with a helmet w/ my mom in the car they'd get double-tapped.
The fact you don't even need concealed carry to keep a firearm in your car is another thing that tempers my road rage.
GregLombardi
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This is a terrible story, but I've driven the New York streets and if they really did chase him 50 blocks as was implied, I am unsurprised at how this ended.
Which is ridiculous, seeing how the biker didn't have insurance.
The way this post is written misrepresents the story here, I think.
Christopher Cruz is the guy who brake-checked the RR before it took off. He is being charged, although apparently the prosecutors had to be convinced to do it.
The guy not being charged is Allen Edwards, and this is what the prosecutors have to say about it: Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation, and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes.
Let's get things straight here.
How do you figure? lol
chickdigger802
Banned
Or a license in the state lol.
DragonSworne
Banned
I'm 100% on the SUV drivers side but this is just how the system always works. The motorcyle driver couldn't be in a worse position, no license etc. He should/probably will lose, but he will sue and even having an attorney it will cost the family a lot.
But isn't it also going to cost that biker a lot of $ to sue?
chickdigger802
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ooh i don't think the system is thaaat bad. This isn't china or something. And the case is already as hot as it is, gonna be interesting to see which attorney and judge combo could lead to that... but hey anything is possible in the land of the free.
depths20XX
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I like how the only quote they have from the biker is "FUCK!"
Mackenzie 92
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No pun intended but he really doesn't have a leg to stand on. Doubt he has the funds to finance and then ultimately lose the case.
Contingency. There's a lot of lawyers out there to proceed with that alone, especially given this has made national headlines.
As Homeboyd stated correctly, the attorney will work on a contingency basis. There are several fields in the law where lawyers just work on a contingency fee. Personal Injury and Employment Law are one of the big areas. The reason for this is because the attorney is taking a big risk in bringing these sorts of cases into court, which makes them think if a case is worth their time and effort. Thus, it eliminates attorneys bringing frivolous cases into our court system. An attorney may grab this case because (a) he wants to get his name in the papers and build some of sort of business or (b) just get a quick settlement out of the Ranger Rover's auto insurance policy. I don't think many lawyers will want to take this case due to the fact that it is a sh*t case. First, the injured biker wasn't even supposed to be driving a motorcycle since he never had a valid motorcycle license. Meaning he would not have been in that situation, but for his disregard of motor vehicle laws. Also,from what is being perceived from the media, the plaintiff wouldn't be that sympathetic compared to the would be defendant, the Range Rover driver, who was trying to protect his family from a mob of bikers. Ultimately, the media will be used as a tool to give some sort of idea on how a jury may see this, but the jury is also known as a "black box" because you have no idea how they will come out.
Totally makes sense.
Wiktor
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I doubt China is anywhere near as bad when it comes to frivolous civil lawsuits as America. THis kind of crap is america's speciality.
i came cross something interesting that was posted on the FB page:
"Here is some additional information you all might want to read. This is my personal experience with this situation. I made sure to post this on the support site as well. As a trucker that would deliver in north jersey and New York I am familiar with these gangs. I can hopefully clarify a few things. First the initial "accident" is part of a game they play. They ride in a huge group and will operate together to slow down traffic. Next they pick out high end vehicles targeting people with families in them, the targets will usually be white or Asian. Then one of the riders will do a "brake check" and stop suddenly in front of the target vehicle causing a minor bump. In some cases they will just roll back into their target vehicle. They will then mob the vehicle demanding money and or begin attacking the person inside. It is their practice to also slash the tires to prevent the vehicle from escaping. Truckers are well aware of them and are advised not to stop. You can clearly see in the video how they are well practiced in this style of attack. The police in NY have backed off them after an officer ran one down using his vehicle a few months back. The video was all over the net so I advise you to check it out. These "bikers" ride dirt bikes and sport bikes very few of which are street legal and even fewer have plates. They run red lights, stop signs, and have no regard for the law. If you are ever in this situation do not stop, immediately call the police and do whatever you have to to keep them from boxing you in. NEVER leave the scene of an accident if you are not under direct threat!!! Only run if you have no other choice, and again immediately call the police. This is not rare by any means, the only reason this incident got any attention is because of the helmet cam video being posted on the net. If you see anyone in this situation, call the police. Make no mistake confusing these punks with true bikers. You will rarely if ever see a member of these gangs on a Harley. Do not for a minute blame true bikers for this kind of behavior. Bikers like those involved in the 2 million Bikers to DC Rally are American Patriots and would be among the first to come to your aid. A final note, always be aware of motorcycles and share the road. Check your mirrors and don't ride anyone's bumper, motorcycles have a much smaller profile then a car and are harder to see."
"Here is some additional information you all might want to read. This is my personal experience with this situation. I made sure to post this on the support site as well. As a trucker that would deliver in north jersey and New York I am familiar with these gangs. I can hopefully clarify a few things. First the initial "accident" is part of a game they play. They ride in a huge group and will operate together to slow down traffic. Next they pick out high end vehicles targeting people with families in them, the targets will usually be white or Asian. Then one of the riders will do a "brake check" and stop suddenly in front of the target vehicle causing a minor bump. In some cases they will just roll back into their target vehicle. They will then mob the vehicle demanding money and or begin attacking the person inside. It is their practice to also slash the tires to prevent the vehicle from escaping. Truckers are well aware of them and are advised not to stop. You can clearly see in the video how they are well practiced in this style of attack. The police in NY have backed off them after an officer ran one down using his vehicle a few months back. The video was all over the net so I advise you to check it out. These "bikers" ride dirt bikes and sport bikes very few of which are street legal and even fewer have plates. They run red lights, stop signs, and have no regard for the law. If you are ever in this situation do not stop, immediately call the police and do whatever you have to to keep them from boxing you in. NEVER leave the scene of an accident if you are not under direct threat!!! Only run if you have no other choice, and again immediately call the police. This is not rare by any means, the only reason this incident got any attention is because of the helmet cam video being posted on the net. If you see anyone in this situation, call the police. Make no mistake confusing these punks with true bikers. You will rarely if ever see a member of these gangs on a Harley. Do not for a minute blame true bikers for this kind of behavior. Bikers like those involved in the 2 million Bikers to DC Rally are American Patriots and would be among the first to come to your aid. A final note, always be aware of motorcycles and share the road. Check your mirrors and don't ride anyone's bumper, motorcycles have a much smaller profile then a car and are harder to see."
chickdigger802
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the fuck is this shit lol. wow.
Cow Mengde
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Especially if you look at the facebook page made to support the injured biker. The facebook page is asking for justice cause he got ran over. I definitely think they'll have legal troubles coming.
vas_a_morir
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I'd normally say it's bullshit, but that other video showing the same gang doing the same thing to another innocent person has me ready to believe.
Pretty interesting.
Looking at all those photos of the bikers beating the crap out of the car and dragging the person out of the SUV and beating them bleeding and really left for dead, I feel no sympathy for the biker that was ran over.
Really make me feel nervous when I'm driving and I see a whole bunch of motorcycle in a group driving in and out of traffic recklessly.
Really make me feel nervous when I'm driving and I see a whole bunch of motorcycle in a group driving in and out of traffic recklessly.
Yep, A lawsuit is definitely coming.
They hired a "celebrity" attorney already
I really hope he doesn't get a freaking dime. Especially if that facebook thing is true.
They hired a "celebrity" attorney already
I really hope he doesn't get a freaking dime. Especially if that facebook thing is true.
Cow Mengde
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This is from Jay Meezee's brother's FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=392073847571471&set=vb.100003065777698&type=3&theater
I would hate to be his neighbor...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=392073847571471&set=vb.100003065777698&type=3&theater
I would hate to be his neighbor...
The driver and his wife sound like they are pretty successful people. Im pretty sure they are going to get some good lawyers (which they probably already have) and arnt going to lose on this one.
chickdigger802
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sigh indeed.
hopefully this gets resolved quickly... but who knows, a phoenix wright turnabout could be sad/interesting to follow too :S
Mauricio_Magus
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Are people really defending the bikers? I'd drive over every single of those 300 bikers and not give a single fuck if it means I get the fuck away from them and protect my family.
B For Bendetta
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They updated the TOS. Only bannable offense is thread shitting and horseporn
chickdigger802
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seems like only the biker gang and family are defending lol.
also driving over 300 bikers would be unwise. would kill your suspension and you couldn't get away!
Only real bikes are Harleys BULLSHIT.
Harley groups do the exact same fucking thing everyone is crying about, slow down traffic, block intersections, act like total dicks to any cars that try and merge in the middle of their group. They just don't pop wheelies because they cant.
Gees that would be horrible, I didn't buy a house specifically because the neighbor across the street was "tuning" his classic car when they showed us the house. No respect for other people seems common these days.
Only Boss Hoss motorcycles are real motorcycles.
PoweredBySoy
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Eh, must be regional, because every Harley rider I see is a blue collar, salt-of-the-earth sweetheart. That said, I fucking hate Harleys.
RPGCrazied
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Watch him win. Yeah, it sucks about his legs, but he shouldn't be associated with these thugs. If anything, the SUV family needs to do the suing.
You forgot to include its got to be air cooled to be a real Harley
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