prodystopian said:*How much bandwidth is required for VoIP versus regular voice the way it is implemented now?
Oh, I never understood the appeal of the plan anyway. It sounded pretty stupid, and besides, I think a lot of us recently tied ourselves to new contracts anyway, so it's not like there's a great deal of benefit in it. I'm hoping my buddy gives me his in Jan, eventhough I'm on Sprint. I could always borrow my ex's SIM card to activate it anyway. PEACE.Vyse The Legend said:The phone is real. No one is saying it's not. It is not, however, the fabled Google Phone, i.e. a phone designed for VOiP that will revolutionize the phone industry. It's just an HTC phone that is heading to T-Mobile, and it will, more than likely, be sold directly by Google as the ADP3, because it uses SnapDragon and a WVGA screen.
They're not magic, but they do take a rather unorthodox approach to "financial barriers" that does raise the question how they might approach the cellphone market if they start producing they're own hardware.tokkun said:Third, for some reason people seem to think that Google is this sort of magic corporation that can overcome any sort of financial barriers.
Woe is they who is we.Skittleguy said:Andrex is banned. And we're dealing with second/third hand info from the internets.
tokkun said:It depends on the degree of compression in your codec. In general, in ideal operation, it is about 40-80kbps for VoIP. Not really that much.
pxleyes said:3D app pane confirmed.
Look at the very bottom. Very slick if it rolls up like that.
prodystopian said:Any idea what they use for the current voice plans on cell networks?
tokkun said:I'm not an expert, but it seems to me that it would be difficult to make a direct comparison of the two, because voice technology uses dedicated slots whereas (I assume) data does not. I think it would make more sense to compare the number of simultaneous users that could be supported on voice versus VoIP on a given tower, and I don't have access to that information. There is also a question of QoS for VoIP if you are not getting dedicated slots.
pxleyes said:3D app pane confirmed.
Look at the very bottom. Very slick if it rolls up like that.
prodystopian said:Good point. I was just hoping someone in here could give a detailed comparison of how it would look to the carriers (VoIP vs. the current method).
I'm not a fan of this. I mean, it changes very little from the current setup, but just seems excessive. Any stolen clock cycles for excesses like 3D menus could be better spent IMO. PEACE.pxleyes said:3D app pane confirmed.
Look at the very bottom. Very slick if it rolls up like that.
tokkun said:They will not be happy about it because they make a lot of money selling voice minutes and texting plans. I think this will be the biggest barrier, rather than tech.
Go read his post history. Pretty easy to see why.El Papa said:How did Andrex get banned?
Yeah, well I'm browsing on my phone right now so I wanted someone to link me, but w/e. I figured there was an epic meltdown or something dramatic.Pctx said:Go read his post history. Pretty easy to see why.
prodystopian said:I absolutely agree. That was what I was saying at the bottom of the last page. The only thing that makes me think it might be possible is the opening of that spectrum (LTE I think?), though I remember there being some snags with it not being completely open.
Vyse The Legend said:For many bloggers/conspiracy theorists this raises one important question: If they had no commercial plans to sell the Nexus One to the mainstream consumer, why would they trademark the name? After all, they didn't trademark Google Dream (developer phone 1, aka the G1) or Google Ion (developer phone 2, aka MyTouch).
tokkun said:Well, for one thing they already have a trademark on 'Google', so it's not as if someone could call their phone the Google Ion or Google Dream anyway.
Reports are that a ROM of 2.1 has been dumped and is working on the Droid.Xdrive05 said:An aside, is Android 2.1 confirmed to be coming to the Moto. Droid?
Vyse The Legend said:Real.
Vyse The Legend said:The madness continues: Google has trademarked the name "Nexus One."
For many bloggers/conspiracy theorists this raises one important question: If they had no commercial plans to sell the Nexus One directly to the mainstream consumer, why would they trademark the name? After all, they didn't trademark Google Dream (developer phone 1, aka the G1) or Google Ion (developer phone 2, aka MyTouch). Also, a trademark means T-Mobile and HTC can't use the name without Google's permission, right? It's rather odd...
Personally, I doubt this is little more than the ADP3, but this move does suggest there might be more to this all than meets the eye.
Pctx said:Reports are that a ROM of 2.1 has been dumped and is working on the Droid.
Most likely we will see 2.0 on most devices end of this year or late Jan.
Grasping at straws. There's no way they will win.... or maybe... just maybe... this is just part of the game.....Vyse The Legend said:It looks like Google may be sued by the Philip K. Dick estate over copyright infringement for their unauthorized use of the name "Nexus One." :lol
Source: NYTimes
Pctx said:Grasping at straws. There's no way they will win.... or maybe... just maybe... this is just part of the game.....
Vyse The Legend said:It looks like Google may be sued by the Philip K. Dick estate over copyright infringement for their unauthorized use of the name "Nexus One." :lol
Source: NYTimes
So what about the other animation?DrFunk said:
Localytics, a mobile applications analytics service, has published some interesting findings about the Nexus One. Their software tracks data from Android applications and they began noticing the Nexus One show up in their reports last month. The phone first appeared on November 25 and the number of sessions began to increase after Google handed out the phone to their employees on December 11.
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According to Localytics, most of the Nexus One phones are being used with T-Mobile 3G. There were also a couple of Googlers using the new phone with their AT&T SIM cards, but they were limited to only Edge data. Note that all the sightings have been over GSM networks and not CDMA. We heard rumors a CDMA version of the Nexus One was also in the works, but it appears that device is a ways off.
Does this mean I can sign up for a contract today, get a subsidized phone, and bail in January? Or are the new contracts already reflecting the new fee?jonnybryce said:So Sprint is introducing a new fee in January! :lol An oppurtunity to get out of contract without an ETF.
Don't take my sole word for it but the change occurs in January so yes, it should mean that you little schemer.Bboy AJ said:Does this mean I can sign up for a contract today, get a subsidized phone, and bail in January? Or are the new contracts already reflecting the new fee?
Bboy AJ said:Does this mean I can sign up for a contract today, get a subsidized phone, and bail in January? Or are the new contracts already reflecting the new fee?
Hey man, you know the X10 is expensive!jonnybryce said:Don't take my sole word for it but the change occurs in January so yes, it should mean that you little schemer.
Yes. It would probably take only an hour or so. That said, ehhh, it might be a headache so I probably won't go through with it.Mason said:But then what are you going to do with a CDMA phone locked to Sprint? Sell it? I doubt the profit would be worth all your time and effort.