Inaba has been play testing the ROM only this last week, with Kamiya complaining about deadlines the whole time. Sounds like they're winding down only now to me.
Clearly Avalanche is boycotting them for not using Origin as there's no other possible explanation.
It's Nintendo and third party's faults, and certainly not the faults of those four people alone.
Yes, but how could they have known that 9-12 months ago?
You're funny. I like you.
Inaba has been play testing the ROM only this last week, with Kamiya complaining about deadlines the whole time. Sounds like they're winding down only now to me.
We're not going back to blaming the Wii U consumers again are we?
Honestly, I will never get people who criticize EA and other publishers for not developing on WiiU 'OMG U MISSING 10MILLION SALES' no they aren't. Look at the WiiU sales and the sales of every single port and even exclusives (ZombiU). They sell for shit. Even if WiiU in some miraculous manner would actually repeat the casual sensation of Wii, then these specific games will still sell for relatively shit; definitely not in millions. The audience culture is highly different between the two consoles and thus favors different genres, and the audience that overlaps already highly likely owns one of the existing consoles.
It's first-and-foremost about the culture these consoles have established, which is an extremely long-term phenomenon, and thus not possible to repair in the short-term with 'hey man come develop a game for us'; no, they would require significant money to be bothered with it, as the sales just do not exist there in any event. The only way Nintendo could possibly retract this would to change their marketing completely and establish studios to develop games like Halo etc, and attempt to capture both, the 'hardcore and casual' audience via targeted games and high specs. But, they haven't done it, and thus, WiiU is destined to be doomed in regards to these specific third-party games.
Doubtful. The PlayStation userbase buys third party games, so these companies want to put their games on there. Wii U userbase hasn't bought anything so no one wants to put a guranteed bomba out. The silly userbase bought some shitty Lego game over Monster Hunter, all the shit they get is deserved.So their PS4 dev kit will collect dust as well since the install base will be small at launch (going by their logic)
So their PS4 dev kit will collect dust as well since the install base will be small at launch (going by their logic)
So their PS4 dev kit will collect dust as well since the install base will be small at launch (going by their logic)
If you want to ignore the rest of what he said. He made it clear that Sony has been supportive and easy to talk to. Getting developers and publishers on board can sometimes be as easy as getting them excited about what you have to offer and listening to their feedback. Nintendo has done a poor job with support and the WiiU has flopped right out of the gate.So their PS4 dev kit will collect dust as well since the install base will be small at launch (going by their logic)
So their PS4 dev kit will collect dust as well since the install base will be small at launch (going by their logic)
I cant work out why this is 7 pages lol. they aren't making games. cool...move on
I cant work out why this is 7 pages lol. they aren't making games. cool...move on
No these companies have more faith in the ps4 doing well.So their PS4 dev kit will collect dust as well since the install base will be small at launch (going by their logic)
Only few months left to troll Wii U. Don't miss your chance!
Clearly Avalanche is boycotting them for not using Origin as there's no other possible explanation.
Clearly Avalanche is boycotting them for not using Origin as there's no other possible explanation.
Devs know their games won't sell on a Nintendo system, and Nintendo does nothing to dispel this rumor.
Their business models are totally broken.
I agree with the logic that even if Wii U were selling well these guys still would not be making Wii U games.
I love the Catch 22 with Nintendo consoles. If a Nintendo console is tanking, devs want nothing to do with it. If a Nintendo console is doing well, they don't want to develop for it because they don't want to compete with Nintendo.
Gamecube and the N64 despite only selling 20 to 30 million each were profitable.
Yes, but how could they have known that 9-12 months ago?
?Again just proof to me Nintendo has it's third party horses that they're willing to ride with. They've got Warner, Ubisoft and (probably) Activision and 2K. Wii U support from those publishers is actually staggeringly good by Nintendo standards.
You're right, a better metric is the absence of upcoming games from pretty much every publisher besides Warner, Ubisoft and Activision.It's ok to use a studio who has never released any software on Nintendo Hardware regardless of how powerful it was or how large the install base was, as some sort of measure of Nintendo's 3rd party relations.
Because it is yet another major dev who won't be supporting Nintendo's current console? That is news.
Those rumors about money hating games and even developers out of the first next-generation machine are looking more and more likely. And the unimpressive reveal of the ps4 is just a starting point.
Even in the updated translation it sounds more like trash talking than PR talk.
So their PS4 dev kit will collect dust as well since the install base will be small at launch (going by their logic)
Can someone at least buy them a feather duster?
I'm under the impression they mean "It's hard to reach someone of importance or that actually knows what we want to know".
When was the last third party game put on a Nintendo system that was treated the same way as if it was a PS3 or 360 game that did poorly? I can't recall. When games get treated as if they are worth buying by the publisher/developer and that message and feeling is gotten across to the potential buyers the game will do well. When it's treated as an afterthought, not even acknowledged, missing features and there is no attempt to sell the game to customers why should it be expected to sell well?
Nintendo hardware owners are customers first and foremost. You have to sell your product to them. If you don't, don't expect it to sell period. This is the problem I see and the problem with third parties. They feel they don't have to "sell" their games on Nintendo systems and it's customers. Yet have no problem on the PS3 and 360. How do you run a business like that?
Really though, if I as a regular gamer can figure out how to contact Nintendo via multiple channels and they as developers can't, I don't know what that says about them.
Yeah cause you sending them an email and getting a copy paste reply is the same as a developers queries.
They have more confidence in Sony/Microsoft not screwing up their next boxes and rightfully so.
Finally, a developer NOT developing for Wii U.
ITP: Sony didn't screw up their last two hardware launches.
ITP: Sony didn't screw up their last two hardware launches.
They sure did with the PS3.
What did EA do to make their late, feature-bare 360 SKU of Madden in 2005 worth buying; how did they convey that message of worth?
Was there anything else of note to buy for the 360 when it launched?
Doubtful. The PlayStation userbase buys third party games, so these companies want to put their games on there. Wii U userbase hasn't bought anything so no one wants to put a guranteed bomba out. The silly userbase bought some shitty Lego game over Monster Hunter, all the shit they get is deserved.
It's becoming obvious...
Nintendo is a bunch of guys in Japan that just want to do their own thing. Make the games and systems they think are cool. Anyone not on board with that, whatevs. They can't be bothered with the hassle of chasing 3rd parties all the way over in the West.
It wouldn't actually surprise me to hear of a lot of weed-smoking going on at NCL.
It's the banana's fault. I knew it all along!What do you say banana?