That's way more people than we had working on most of the games I worked on. Full games. Then again, I was working in the PS2/Xbox/PSP era, and didn't really encroach on 360/PS3.
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David Cage: "The Dark Sorcerer is the minimum quality you can get on the PS4"
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That's way more people than we had working on most of the games I worked on. Full games. Then again, I was working in the PS2/Xbox/PSP era, and didn't really encroach on 360/PS3.
dat power already causing the rlod
first casualty, salute.jpg
It was not casualty, that was only overheating warning notice. After they opened the shitty box, console cooled down in few seconds, and the gaming was resumed [console did not shut down].
nelsonroyale
Member
Character models are the best on anything, PC or otherwise...so I don't know what you are getting at. Environments are generally fantastic as well.
shinra-bansho
Member
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
I think he is capable of writing a good story, but something falls apart quickly towards the end
The first scene in Farenheit was frigging awesome and I thought I was getting more of that. I thought I was getting more scenes in which what you did let to different outcomes and it was puzzle-esque since you has to think about how to get out of that situation.
Heavy Rain opening was also excellent. I thought we were getting a hard boiled detective story with branching story and interrogation trees.
The first scene in Farenheit was frigging awesome and I thought I was getting more of that. I thought I was getting more scenes in which what you did let to different outcomes and it was puzzle-esque since you has to think about how to get out of that situation.
Heavy Rain opening was also excellent. I thought we were getting a hard boiled detective story with branching story and interrogation trees.
angular graphics
Banned
Nah. I doubt that there won't be any games that will look worse than that (and others that will look better of course).
nelsonroyale
Member
He just meant minimum from them. I mean, just making my way through beyond, I think they have to be classified amongst the top 10 tech devs this gen...
Louis Cyphre
Banned
Well when you make games with motion capturing and your games are mainly interactive movies with QTE it's no wonder his games can reach such high levels of graphics.
1/10
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Good thing your opinion holds no weight when it comes to the merits of visuals and how to judge them.
so...can you point out to a ps2 game that looked better than the beyond demo?
You know Quantic Dream released a game for PS2, right? It looked like this:
I dare you to find a Beyond screenshot that looks half as bad as that.
Yes, please yes.
Doubt he can find a single screen that can compare. Whether people like or hate Cage's games, both HR and Beyond's graphics were amazing.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
Have people really forgotten what PS2 and Xbox original games looked like?
Really excited to see what they're going to do next. They certainly know how to make amazing graphics, The Dark Sorcerer demo is the most impressive looking next gen demo so far.
Cage said that their PS4 game would be really different from HR and Beyond, maybe it will be set in a fantasy world and focused on irony instead of drama?
Cage said that their PS4 game would be really different from HR and Beyond, maybe it will be set in a fantasy world and focused on irony instead of drama?
dragonbane
Member
That's everybody who ever touched the demo, including the entire R&D crew. The main team was about 20 people working for a couple of months on it.
The bike is in there yes. The huge town fight as well. I hope he finds the PS2 game soon that looks that good.
nelsonroyale
Member
Rushing through the forest just looks incredible...
SniperHunter
Banned
I think he is talking about his own studio....
There might be some PS2 CG that looks kind of nearly as good, if he's lucky.Don't forget this is in the Demo:
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It's annoying some lots of people haven't even played Beyond yet. I'm one of those ><
Still larger than any team I worked on. I'd generally go with around 4-5 programmers with maybe 6-7 artists, plus the production side.
Not even close, FF12 cutscenes will be just about the best around, that clip exceeds Spirit within which was made on the giant box of duct taped together PS2's.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
You know Quantic Dream released a game for PS2, right? It looked like this:
I dare you to find a Beyond screenshot that looks half as bad as that.
I'm dying over here. Man, people calling late ps3 titles "ps2 level".
jacksepticeye
Member
But will it be used for good games? Flashy graphics mean little otherwise
I find his games entertaining so I think they're good. His games play out more like adventure games so it doesn't bother me that he uses QTEs for the action portions.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Ah, you have to see the game running. Don't rely on any screens. Clothing is one of the things that's consistently super-impressive about it. Not just the surface texture, which at least on main characters seems to never be 'just' flat texture, but the cloth physics as well, seen on a long dress that Jodie can wear in the game. I can also safely say that I've never seen denim look as good in any game I played.
petethepanda
Member
Hopefully they hire a writer to match the impressive tech.
dragonbane
Member
Do it. The people in this thread complaining about the writing are pretty funny. The writing in Beyond is really fine, not mindblowing or perfect, but alright. It completely trashes Heavy Rain. The problems many reviewers and some players have with it is game design, story structure and overall execution. But the writing itself is really not the culprit this time.
Well I guess for him 20 people is small. That was about the size of his team when he did Omikron in 1997.
For their type of game, undoubtedly.
Personally, I think we are at a point now where character models look sufficiently good to form emotional links with if the writing is good enough. Personally, what I hope to see is BTS/uncharted 3-like character fidelity with commensurate facial animation in WRPGs.
Personally, I think we are at a point now where character models look sufficiently good to form emotional links with if the writing is good enough. Personally, what I hope to see is BTS/uncharted 3-like character fidelity with commensurate facial animation in WRPGs.
SniperHunter
Banned
I beat Beyond yesterday. Main things I noticed about the engine:
*High quality skin shader on characters
*High quality soft shadows on characters
*Good particle effects like rain & fire (these obviously look a lot better in the PS4 tech demo)
*Great looking environments most of the time (again the PS4 environments look even better due to RAM increase)
-Pop ups during horse riding segments
-jaggies
-poor quality environmental shadows every now and then
-unstable frame rate at times
When QD say this is a scaled down ver of the PS4 engine I totally believe them. Beyond pushed PS3 to it's limits and no where does it look like a PS2 game at all. Their PS4 engine is obviously mind blowing.
*High quality skin shader on characters
*High quality soft shadows on characters
*Good particle effects like rain & fire (these obviously look a lot better in the PS4 tech demo)
*Great looking environments most of the time (again the PS4 environments look even better due to RAM increase)
-Pop ups during horse riding segments
-jaggies
-poor quality environmental shadows every now and then
-unstable frame rate at times
When QD say this is a scaled down ver of the PS4 engine I totally believe them. Beyond pushed PS3 to it's limits and no where does it look like a PS2 game at all. Their PS4 engine is obviously mind blowing.
dragonbane
Member
That dress was something else. Just walked around in circles with the camera pointed down for 2 minutes or something. Dem legs!
Yeah there should be no excuse for some other genres now.
Things like Heavy Rain, Beyond 2 Souls and Dark Sorcerer.
I would hope so.
Sephiroth503
Member
There's always one....
Personally I can't wait to see what QD's next game is like. Singularity sounds good anyway..
fvng
Member
play a jrpg, then play Beyond and tell me which has better writing. It's not even the same league, much less the same ballpark.
I say this as a casual fan of jrpgs as well. I think this is part of why Beyond was so appealing to me, every conversation in that game felt natural.
fvng
Member
Man, if only the answer could be "things like Omikron"