Sweet, one less reason for me to pick up the game.
Are those player controlled vehicles? I was under the impression there was only one the one in the alpha.
See this is why I like Sony. They actually form partnerships to get DLC instead of money hatting like Microsoft does.
Its possible. Its just fairly unprecedented and you're just trying to reach for absolutely any position possible that stops you from having to admit that this is a plain old moneyhat.
And, yeah, it would be a little unprecedented, but you know what else is unprecedented? Timed exclusive content being exclusive for over a year.
Are those player controlled vehicles? I was under the impression there was only one the one in the alpha.
My followup question would be: how many strikes and MP maps will the base game ship with anyway?
Smart move by Sony. They're essentially pushing the game as an exclusive without having to pay the moneyhat. I'm sure the gap in sales between PS4/XBO will be pretty big.
I played the Alpha all weekend.
Mars must be hella early in the game.
How does this stuff usually work?What is so bizarre about a console manufacturer paying a publisher to get some extra content made exclusively for that platform (particularly if it's going to be exclusive for that long)? I mean, who knows, maybe they did just choose some already-existing content to be exclusive, but I don't find it that crazy a situation personally.
You have my sword.#EndTimedExclusivityDealsToday
Man, it's pretty crazy when you search Destiny on Amazon and the XB1 version never shows up, but the first two spots are Destiny on PS4 or the white PS4 bundle. Is it possible for Sony to pay so that only the PS4 version shows up when you search for it at online stores?
The conversation goes back to this quote:How is he trying to spin this for sony ?
All he said it was just business.
Man, it's pretty crazy when you search Destiny on Amazon and the XB1 version never shows up, but the first two spots are Destiny on PS4 or the white PS4 bundle. Is it possible for Sony to pay so that only the PS4 version shows up when you search for it at online stores?
See this is why I like Sony. They actually form partnerships to get DLC instead of money hatting like Microsoft does.
Man, it's pretty crazy when you search Destiny on Amazon and the XB1 version never shows up, but the first two spots are Destiny on PS4 or the white PS4 bundle. Is it possible for Sony to pay so that only the PS4 version shows up when you search for it at online stores?
Have we ever seen a game get exclusive content that was actually meaningful? I can't recall it happening, and I think that's because the developer is never going to wall off something great.
This should only matter to the OCD "what am I missing out on" types. The answer to this question has always been "nothing".
How does this stuff usually work?
In the case of Destiny's multiplayer map, is that something we would've seen at release for both platforms if Sony didn't buy in? Was it something that was slated for DLC that got extra work put into it for Sony? Was it something that Activision cut out of the release package to dangle out to different buyers?
I think the pie in the sky optimistic way to look at this is to think that the map would not exist at all if Sony hadn't funded it, but then if that's the case why *ever* release it on the xbox?
Anybody have insight into how these things usually shake down?
Activision and Sanyo strike again!
If you got a PS4 then that's a reason. Tough luck if not or it's just not for you.
This makes little difference to my purchase decision though.
Man, it's pretty crazy when you search Destiny on Amazon and the XB1 version never shows up, but the first two spots are Destiny on PS4 or the white PS4 bundle. Is it possible for Sony to pay so that only the PS4 version shows up when you search for it at online stores?
Sony players got kicked in the teeth all last Gen by this, let's see
Microsoft got Netflix first
Fall out 3 dlc
CoD Dlc
Preference in fixes for Skyrim
I'm sure there is more
HBO Go I'm pretty sure Microsoft got first
Minecraft
Let us eat for a change
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See this is why I like Sony. They actually form partnerships to get DLC instead of money hatting like Microsoft does.
Destiny being an Xbox lead platform was not news or an announcement of any sort. It just happened to internally be leading on that platform awhile back. Insomniac could have done concept work on Sunset Overdrive on a PS3, too; who knows. About Bungie fans being on Xbox since 2001, Insomnac fans have been on PS since way before that, so there's an even longer established Insomniac fanbase there.
And honestly it doesn't matter WHY the game or content is on the other platform to the fan of the company; Insomniac fans potentially not being able to play Sunset Overdrive is worse than Bungie fans potentially not being able to play a relatively small bit of Destiny but still being able to play the game.
Doubtful. Most likely algorithms that are showing PS4 version and bundle because of less Destiny Xbone search interest.
Ok, the comparison originally being made was to Sunset Overdrive, which was funded by Microsoft so the game could exist. Do we really think that Bungie were simply short on money and needed an outside backer to afford making DLC?Well Diablo 3 for PS4 is getting a Last of Us mission with enemies from the game and everything. Minecraft has platform unique stuff. You think all that was made for free on the developer's part?
I don't understand why a publisher paying a developer to create EXTRA content for a game is a crazier thought than a publisher paying a developer to cut out content from the game to be exclusive to them. Are we that cynical that we all feel the worst case scenario is the most likely scenario?
Edit: A lot of game content like MP maps are not even created in house by developers and are instead outsourced, further leading to money hatting extra, emphasis, content.
And in its stead the Division is getting timed XB1 content. Ubisoft is annoyingly all over the board with this stuff, lol.
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See this is why I like Sony. They actually form partnerships to get DLC instead of money hatting like Microsoft does.
.Bullshit.
Yep. Console bundle, exclusive DLC, early beta/alpha access. I'm sure there'll be PS advertisements that will similarly show this around mid-late August. It's gonna give it a significant boost.
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See this is why I like Sony. They actually form partnerships to get DLC instead of money hatting like Microsoft does.
I wonder what's stopping MS from bankrolling some Xbox specific Destiny ads...
The difference being, from 2008-2012, Destiny was actively developed in some form for Xbox 360 first. The leaked documents from Activision show that the PS3 version was going to come a bit later possibly. 2013, this all changes. Activision signs an exclusive agreement with Sony, Bungie starts to only promote Destiny on PS4. Very little to no mention of Xbox or Xbox One, most reveals, alpha, beta, dlc only talked about with Playstation in mind.
Whereas Sunset Overdrive was funded by Microsoft and built as an exclusive for the Xbox One from day one. There was never any mention of Sony, there was never any footage of it on Sony consoles, and there was no reason for Sony/Insomniac fans to expect it at all.
I never said which one is worse, I said that it's not the same comparison. They are two separate situations. Apples to oranges. Yes not being able to play a game at all, is worse than timed exclusivity for content.
Ok, the comparison originally being made was to Sunset Overdrive, which was funded by Microsoft so the game could exist. Do we really think that Bungie were simply short on money and needed an outside backer to afford making DLC?
This DLC was going to get made no matter what. Sony did not throw their money in to 'help out', but to secure its exclusivity. That is not a worst-case scenario, it is the likely one.
Yeah, I hate the latter, but at least this is better than console exclusive.While it's for the platform of my choice (though I own both systems), I really dislike these practices. Same goes for all the fracturing in pre-order content.
Wow a year. I'm buying ps4 version so I don't give a shit. And if it was just cosmetic stuff, then xbone guys wouldnt have a lot to miss.
It is a strike mission and a mp competitive map though....
Kinda sucks for you guys.
Considering that Ubi games have been at the Sony conference the last few years and had exclusives and this year it was completely swapped to MS, I think it's safe to assume that Sony's marketing/exclusive deal with Ubi expired and MS snatched up a deal with them.
I wonder what's stopping MS from bankrolling some Xbox specific Destiny ads...
Because everybody has that option, right?