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DigitalFoundry: Destiny 2 PS4 First Look + Frame-Rate Test
- Thread starter Theorry
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Nope.
Yep.
I will gonna make a thread describing all the effects and upgrades with screenshots and got but thought it'd only lead to more Destiny 2 shitting and if it comes from DF it'll be more accepted.
Unfortunately no one was allowed to capture the Homecoming mission which is where the graphical improvements are the most apparent.
ethomaz
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Well... let's read the comments to see what there are into the video
Get_craycray
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Well... let's read the comments to see what there are into the video
Read the Youtube comments? Well, you're in for a treat.
I'm watching the video right now and they said it's a locked 30fps.
Btw I have been making a lot of posts where I described these exact upgrades that DF is talking about i.e. proper PBR, Bokeh DoF, GPU particles, improved post processing and I got told "I have no sources and I am talking out of my ass" lol.
To those people...now you know ! Also in the homecoming mission you have volumetric lighting...first evident when you go down the stairs towards where the Speaker's tower is (the scene follows after Zavala pops his bubble to protect the player.
To those people...now you know ! Also in the homecoming mission you have volumetric lighting...first evident when you go down the stairs towards where the Speaker's tower is (the scene follows after Zavala pops his bubble to protect the player.
ethomaz
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Read this thread kkkkkkk.
Get_craycray
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Whew you scared me for a second.
If you need DF to do that for you, surely you can see the issue.
Backfoggen
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I hope they can show me this clear upgrade, too.
DarkLordMalik
Member
There is an improvement in visuals, sure. But it is not a massive jump and mainly boils down to improved effects here and there. The people who consider this game the same as the original are not wrong because it is easy to confuse both if you have no interest in the technical breakdown.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Pretty much. Destiny 2 defenders need to take the L and just accept the game is not a massive jump visually.
When the footage in the video started, I was confused whether they were showing the original Destiny or the sequel. Even the animations are the same including the reload one.
benicillin
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I mean no, if you watch the Homecoming mission and then compare it to literally any mission or location in the original Destiny there's no comparison whatsoever.
Garrett Hawke
Member
They are still using very low poly assets for a 30fps game, especially the character models.
No need to listen to drive by trolls and irrational haters. They will find any excuse to hate it.
My question is, why does it really matter if it looks any better? If people want more Destiny, and they're getting more Destiny, why is there a mandatory need for it to look different visually?
Get_craycray
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DF talked to a network specialist, who's also an ex developer from Respawn Entertainment and Sony, and he said Bungie could have offloaded some features of the games (physics, AI, etc...) to the cloud with dedicated servers and thus, Destiny 2 could have been 60fps (on PS4 Pro at least).
It's at around 5:50 in the video.
It's at around 5:50 in the video.
ethomaz
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I just started the video and it looks way more clean and sharper than original game I played... it is pretty noticeable.
It is probably not running on PS4 (only 43s watched).
To me it looks pretty comparable. Certainly better, but I definitely can see how an untrained eye wouldn't consider them improved, especially when looking at youtube videos.
Dude knows what he is talking about, but it is definitely speculative of whether it would help them hit 60+ fps. There would be no way to know for sure until profiling the game.
Dude knows what he is talking about, but it is definitely speculative of whether it would help them hit 60+ fps. There would be no way to know for sure until profiling the game.
benicillin
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It's running on the PS4 base model actually, I think? I don't think they got capture from PS4 Pro.
Yep, I've said this before as well...that would've been fully possible considering Destiny is an always online game. But that'd require maintaining and paying for cloud servers. If they saw that to be financially feasible then we'd already be getting dedicated servers for the game.
ethomaz
Banned
Big improvement in IQ if true.
Shadax the wizard
Member
For someone that never tried destiny, does it feel anything like halo co-op?
Yep. Lots of improvements in all the areas I expected.
Reasonable things I'd like to see added in before launch:
Improved AA
60fps menu navigation (love it when games do this and Destiny's pointer based menus would benefit greatly from it)
FoV slider on all platforms (although it is less of an issue with D2 than D1 since the base FoV is wider and the weapon models on average are smaller)
DarkLordMalik
Member
I wasn't talking about the content. Strictly about the visuals. And there were rumors of a new engine so I guess people like me hoped for something different.
To be fair, I only played the vanilla Destiny but the intro looked the same to me. It was when they talked about the improved effects that I noticed the difference.
Garrett Hawke
Member
You can see here how low poly the character models are. Especially disappointing considering this is a 30fps game.
60FPS menu should be a no brained in EVERY game honestly. And yes it'd be fantastic in Destiny.
ethomaz
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If it is true it was running on PS4 amateur then it is a huge improvement in IQ over Destiny vanilla... I even guessed it was Pro or PC due the differences.
AllIsOneIsNone
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The interpolated 60fps looks nice, huge graphical upgrade or not PC version is going to be a big improvement. May be time for me to go G sync.
The lighting and particle effects are considerably better too. The sound of weapons and explosions also have a lot more oomph to them, way fuller sound, more bass. Can't say I'm blown away by the music though, not my style. Needs more weird electronica sounding stuff, way less "epic" orchestral stuff...but that's just me.
The lighting and particle effects are considerably better too. The sound of weapons and explosions also have a lot more oomph to them, way fuller sound, more bass. Can't say I'm blown away by the music though, not my style. Needs more weird electronica sounding stuff, way less "epic" orchestral stuff...but that's just me.
I haven't been able to watch the video yet, but this is depressing as hell. I just disagree with practically everything Bungie does from a game design standpoint.
I'll get my money's worth from the game playing with friends or grinding away at some checklist when I'm exhausted after work, but I would love to see another dev working in this space. Curious to see Bioware's Destiny-type game.
Some people don't seem to notice vastly different lighting models... And those newer models are very expensive gpu wise
This is the issue going forward... Graphics changes are less and less noticable
mysteriousmage09
Member
It was also stated when they were shown the PC footage at 4K 60fps it was running on a GTX 1080Ti and a i7 7700K cpu, and that the 7700K is basically a quantum leap over the Jaguar CPUs in consoles.
Time for people that think Destiny 2 will be 4K 60fps on Scorpio to come back to reality.
Time for people that think Destiny 2 will be 4K 60fps on Scorpio to come back to reality.
Backfoggen
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Yeah, improvement over D1 or not, when you look at the shit other games are pulling at 30fps, this is a complete disappointment.
DarkLordMalik
Member
YouTube compression certainly doesn't help me here.
ethomaz
Banned
Yeap... I watched in 1080 60fps option.
funkystudent
Member
Outside of post process effects the base assets totally seem like left over Destiny 1 bits and that was a bar set at 360 and PS3.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Pretty much, the assets themselves don't look noticeably improved. It's nowhere close to the sort of improvements made by other cross gen titles in the same period. (WD1->WD2, BF4->BF1)
I honestly can't grasp how people don't see the upgrade. Could it have been more for a 30fps game? Probably. But it definitely drops many of the obvious last gen roots that D1 has and has quite good lighting and post processing with excellent particle work.
Eyes were glazed over 3 minutes into the video