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fail0verflow - PS3 Private Key + PSP Key + PS3's Blu-Ray Key found, FW 3.50 decrypted
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sharath_kumar
Neo Member
A fool and his console are soon parted...
If sony indeed returned a fixed number in place of a random number, then they deserve to be hacked.
However, I hope the guys (marcan et al) don't release the GameOS keys, releasing only the keys necessary to make linux work.
If sony indeed returned a fixed number in place of a random number, then they deserve to be hacked.
However, I hope the guys (marcan et al) don't release the GameOS keys, releasing only the keys necessary to make linux work.
1. Doubt piracy will become too big because of large filesizes. Of course there are games with a bunch of filler data or small games but those are usually multiplatform games that get pirated on other systems too.j-wood said:
2. Won't happen
3. I guess this is bad but Sony can still ban people
4. I really hope people cheat trophies so it will be easier for people to see how pointless trophies are
I'll enjoy my media center once people make one. If something at least half as good as XBMC ends up on PS3 it'll definitely be worth it!
Machado said:
Nope. Just don't understand people and their ways of thinking.
Every action has a reaction.
Like the above poster said, I enjoy having a standard hard drive, did enjoy having a linux option, ect. So that hackers can feel good about themselves and enjoy some pointless features that can be had on a regular PC, other owners stand to suffer some consequences.
I bet you anything there will be major changes in the next playstation console.
onken
Member
TheSeks said:
Oh I see, so now it's because the slim never had Linux support! Revisionist. Bullshit. Nobody gave a shit that slim didn't support Linux, you always had the option of buying a fat. The outcry started only after support was removed from the fattys.
More bullshit. Some mod-chippers from Hong Kong took advantage of Geohot's exploit to try and sell overpriced modchips for piracy. It had nothing to do with "the scene" or Linux or revenge on Sony. No but of course I'm sure you're right, those HK mod-chippers were thinking about the potential money to be made and decided against it because otheros was still being supported and only went ahead after it was revoked because of REVENGE!!!11!
Callibretto
Member
can people play newer games on this like GT5 for example? if the ps3 is so bustedthat it can play all games including new one like GT5 with no drawback like online etc. then PS3 is probably finished.
on psp and during jailbreak, Sony's effort is to add more feature to keep their user to stay legit. online feature like psn games, netflix, and new games are what Sony use to sway people from cfw or jailbreak. if all those stuff is available by just copy and pasting file to usb stick, then what can Sony offer to their user. nothing.
on psp and during jailbreak, Sony's effort is to add more feature to keep their user to stay legit. online feature like psn games, netflix, and new games are what Sony use to sway people from cfw or jailbreak. if all those stuff is available by just copy and pasting file to usb stick, then what can Sony offer to their user. nothing.
Not talking about the hardware, talking about the software.darkwing said:
Playing pirated games, backups, whatever.... there will always be a market for that. It seems like from what I've read (and correct me if I'm wrong)--- the software on the hardware can be modified in a way in which PSN wouldn't be able to tell the difference from a "pirate" PSN user and a "legit" PSN user. What seems logical then would for Sony to push out new authentication to the PSN users using different keys in which effectively would squash people playing online with pirated boxes. I'm assuming (again... maybe I'm wrong) but isn't this what Microsoft has been doing for years now?
Callibretto
Member
darkwing said:
so any more product out for ps3 is like giving it away for free? might as well hold their current games in development and put it out for ps4 then.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Rampant cheating could affect sales, which would cause developers to put in even less effort into multiplatform titles. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.Pctx said:
Billychu said:
There's actually quotes from sony employees(uk blog iirc) explicitly saying they wouldn't take Linux away from the phats around the time of the slims release.
Give me My 10gb I lost from the Linux being deactivated without having to undergo a day long backup and restore, or any worthwhile feature in a firmware update for that matter Sony and I won't be so damn bitter about all your bs.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Hopefully you have already placed me on ignore, that way there is one less moron to reply to.EricHasNoPull said:
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Problem is, if that franchise (and others like it) are f'ed then so is the PS3.Pctx said:
phosphor112
Banned
j-wood said:
Pretty much.
Homebrew is great, but not at the cost of piracy. Not in my opinion.
onken
Member
Billychu said:
I was very into the PS3 Linux scene at the time, I don't remember any kind of drama about it. This news piece is a very good example of the feeling at time.
Yes a shame, but there'd always be the fats. There were some minor concerns of future revocation on fats but they were quickly calmed after we were "assured" that it wouldn't happen (ho ho ho).
Oh really? And your evidence to the contrary is?
Truespeed said:
What, this?
That's just a commit to add support for array textures in the basic gallium infrastructure, along with a bunch of various driver fixes, none of which is the Cell driver. If the individual drivers are busted, as the Cell one most likely is, adding support for a new type of texture that it still can't render isn't going to change anything.
But if you think the Cell driver is usable and you have a PS3 with OtherOS, go ahead and try to build it. I've done it a bunch on YDL so I can offer some help, including shortly before Sony yanked OtherOS.
The Faceless Master
Member
hopefully this means i can recover the data on the HDD of my broken PS3 if it's not fixable. that's one thing i like about MS. my 360 broke 3 times, and it got fixed 3 times FOR FREE. Sony consoles have been dying since 1994 and their warranty service has been in the stone ages since then. Nintendo is better at warranty service too!
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
My console, i can do what i want with it. I dont pirate. I do enjoy using it to its full potential within the letter of the law.j-wood said:
phosphor112
Banned
You are free to enjoy it to it's potential, but I think it's funny you guys think it's worth it that things get broken open for homebrew at the cost of piracy.LovingSteam said:
You guys have to keep in mind, unlike the rest of the entertainment industry (TV, Movies, Music) VG's only have one source of revenue, and that's the consumer. There are no subscription services or live concerts that devs can do to make money.
Just refer to how much is pirated in the other gaf thread.
Seriously, half the shit you guys want you can do on PC. Others, I can completely understand, but shit like MKV support? Really? What for?
Sony isn't the one that's going to pay for this. You do realize that don't you? Oh wait, no you don't.CaLe said:
Sony is a large company with many parts to it, it is unlikely anyone will even bring up the piracy situation for the PS3. And Sony can even spin it in the event someone does asks about how long it took to crack compared to other systems.InsaneZero said:
It is a pretty funny security flaw though, I bet you they had some bug with the RNG causing software to get flagged as not official, someone put in the static number as a quick fix (Or the fix) so they could continue their testing, and they forgot all about it.
phosphor112
Banned
CaLe said:
So someone forgot to lock their door at night, they deserve to get robbed? Fucking grade A logic. Flawless.
phosphor112
Banned
CaLe said:
So that said person deserves getting robbed because they forgot to alarm it? Once again, flawless logic.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
phosphor112 said:
For me, it truly is about the enjoyment of seeing the developments and what others can do and even following a long myself. I did it with the Wii even though I never really use the system. I did it with the PSP even though I wasn't interested in 99% of the games the system has to offer. For the PS3, I use Goozex and buy games retail. I truly just love to see what the community can and does end up doing.
People will use the tools that the community comes up with and either use it for good or bad but that doesn't mean that the tools themselves should be kept secret. Each individual must decide what he or she will do. There is a demand for people to use their console to the fullest potential and for many folks, that is what its about in the purest sense. That is why I brought up the hammer analogy. Just because a lot of folks may use something for illegal means doesn't mean that the item/service/application itself should be withheld from those who won't be using it for such reasons.
When I paid $599 + tax for my PS3, it became MINE. If I want to blow it up in a safe environment, that is my choice. If I want to use the parts for research, that too is my choice. If I want to install applications that CAN be used for piracy but need not be used for it, that is my choice. My allegiance isn't to Sony. I am not an investor nor an employee. I am a private citizen who purchased a product that Sony produced. The retailer received my money as did Sony. After that, all bets are off.
EricHasNoPull
Banned
Put you on my Ignore list??:lol :lolLovingSteam said:
Are you kidding me dude? who's gonna entertain me with hilarious posts on Gaf then?
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
EricHasNoPull said:
Well, we both agree that the other is a class-A moron who was sent here by the gods of GAF to entertain us. Fantastic.
Truespeed
Member
androvsky said:
You're right, the array textures change did touch a lot of files and the changes to the source, in the Cell driver folder, were all related to adding array texture support, but at least the source is still being maintained. My intent was to just point out that there is some activity beyond the occasional bug fix here and there.
dallow_bg said:Perverse logic confirmed.
You can confirm whatever you want, I have my opinion and you have yours.
I believe that yes, if you voluntarily let your door opened at night in a shady neighborhood and you get robbed, you got what you asked for.
edit: And if we go back to the exploit, there's no way Sony could mistake a random number for a constant. They just never thought that anyone would notice it.