He does make good points. I am so tired of seeing people like myself who really enjoyed FF13 being called morons in so many words just because we enjoyed 13's style. That's why FF threads always devolve in spitting contests.
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He does make good points. I am so tired of seeing people like myself who really enjoyed FF13 being called morons in so many words just because we enjoyed 13's style. That's why FF threads always devolve in spitting contests.
Funny thing, I just stumbled on it after I posted that but still... a perfume is not the reason why I'm excited about Versus.
Uh...?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
GILGAMESH looks like a girl.
Sorry, tried to sneakily outwit you here. I thought you were referring to Gilgamesh.
You aren't the only one I've done that to as of late, anyway. Last time it happened was borderline weird for how unwarrantedly negative it was. Without going into too many details here, I'll just say that working for the DF staff for almost two years has left me with a fair share of severe sequels in my thought-processes. Eventually I'll get over it more by the time.
I don't know what that is and I don't want to.
Stop goofing over at DF and go have fun here instead while your sanity is still in check. Consider that one bit as a friendly piece of advice.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
But... but... I wanna do both
. Honestly though, there's nothing left in DF to goof around with, I only came for the last weekend tournament that I was part of.badcrumble
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To Kagari et al., with apologies if this is going too far off the FFX HD topic -
I do think that FF discussion, even as it's gotten far more rancid in recent years (for which I blame the drastically slowing drip of new releases to talk about), has gotten more interesting, or at least has the potential to be so.
FF releases starting with FFX have been much, much more experimental in a lot of ways. There's still a lot to point to in earlier FFs as far as points of differentiation are concerned - FF5's job system, FF6's intense sense of personality, the vastly differing aesthetics and ability systems from FF7/8/9 - but I'd argue that the actual *battle system* and *world design* remained relatively unchanged from FF4-9. This isn't a complaint about how it was handled in those games in the least, BTW, just saying that it was a constant, with only minor variations (casting times in FF4/5/6, the ATB freezing for summons/complex spells in FF9, assorted desperation attacks, etc.).
Starting with FFX, though, the games started designing their world-experiences radically differently from one game to the next, and doing the same with the battle system. FFX's initial linearity leading into an airship location menu, FFX-2's thoroughly open-from-the-start world, FFXII's massive maze of an Ivalice, FFXIII's no-backtracking-ever world, FFXIII's assorted totally disconnected zones and nonlinear time travel - these are all vastly different. Likewise, FFX's CTB, FFX-2's ATB Kai, FFXII's ADB/Gambit, and FFXIII/XIII-2's battle system are all far more radically different from one another than any of the FF4-9 games.
I think this increased amount of differentiation between games (combined with the slower pace of releases) goes a long way to explain both the increased vitriol of discussion and the more rewarding potential of FF discussion nowadays. It's just too bad that it rarely lives up to that potential.
I do think that FF discussion, even as it's gotten far more rancid in recent years (for which I blame the drastically slowing drip of new releases to talk about), has gotten more interesting, or at least has the potential to be so.
FF releases starting with FFX have been much, much more experimental in a lot of ways. There's still a lot to point to in earlier FFs as far as points of differentiation are concerned - FF5's job system, FF6's intense sense of personality, the vastly differing aesthetics and ability systems from FF7/8/9 - but I'd argue that the actual *battle system* and *world design* remained relatively unchanged from FF4-9. This isn't a complaint about how it was handled in those games in the least, BTW, just saying that it was a constant, with only minor variations (casting times in FF4/5/6, the ATB freezing for summons/complex spells in FF9, assorted desperation attacks, etc.).
Starting with FFX, though, the games started designing their world-experiences radically differently from one game to the next, and doing the same with the battle system. FFX's initial linearity leading into an airship location menu, FFX-2's thoroughly open-from-the-start world, FFXII's massive maze of an Ivalice, FFXIII's no-backtracking-ever world, FFXIII's assorted totally disconnected zones and nonlinear time travel - these are all vastly different. Likewise, FFX's CTB, FFX-2's ATB Kai, FFXII's ADB/Gambit, and FFXIII/XIII-2's battle system are all far more radically different from one another than any of the FF4-9 games.
I think this increased amount of differentiation between games (combined with the slower pace of releases) goes a long way to explain both the increased vitriol of discussion and the more rewarding potential of FF discussion nowadays. It's just too bad that it rarely lives up to that potential.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Dang Narolf, hit that little + sign next to quote and you can just replay to everyone in one post. I can see you over there waitin for the 1 min timer to tick down between posts lol.
Cornbread78
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Oh now this makes daddy very very happy!
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I see...
ROFLMAO
AranhaHunter
Banned
Is this a port or an HD remake? If it's a port with random battle where I can see the enemies before I even encounter them then I'm passing. It's an archaic design that needs to go away. If they modernize that I might be interested in buying it.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I see...
Sick burn and all, but a bit off base. ATB is a brand new game, not a rerelease, and requires nothing but the purchase of the game. I couldn't have played this game for a decade, like the HD releases. The "cash-in" part of a game like ATB is the dlc, same as 13-2 where people pay $3 to watch Serah run around in a bikini. I haven't bought any dlc for ATB, nor 13-2. And if ATB is a cash-in, what do you call every other mobile product they have? Are they only allowed to make multimillion dollar AAA games?
If you're saying ATB and X HD are alike because they take minimal investment for high reward, absolutely. Again, smart company.
Edge_Maverick
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Day 1.
Glad to know that's still alive.
Glad to know that's still alive.
Yeah, constantly speaking between riddles is also one of those sequels it seems.
I'm saying I'm literally suspicious to everyone ever since the drama over at DF. As it stands, the people I actually trust (as in people I would lend the key of my house to) can be counted on my one hand. Worse comes to worst, I get sneaky towards said people at times even if there is no reason to be that way rationally-speaking, by making private stuff public for instance. That's what I was talking about before.
But... but... I wanna do both
You're free to do whatever you please at last, but you should stay the hell away from whatever remotely connects to the Massfia regardless. All of them are puppets. Even MZ is his own puppet. There is that one quote of him which truly asserts it. Not going to bring that shit here.
Schizophrenia was also one of those sequels. Sorry for triple-posting.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I hope I'm not on that hand.
Agreed. I've played it too many times. I also really REALLY dislike Tidus and his tiny shirt/jacket thing...Vaan's too. Why can't FF people put some proper clothes on?!
You aren't among of those people I would lend the key of my house to, but you definitely aren't one of those bad guys either. Remember the analogy to Jackie? That's what I'm talking about here. A lot of people were scared of me over at DF (see the number of members who flip-flopped as soon as I got banned there) and I can tell I still give bad impressions to quite a bit of GAFfers, but I'm working on that.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I don't see what's so scary about you. The worst you could do is go Kraden on people. Or point out people's fallacies.
Very good points here.
A lot of people assumed I would have banned them if they weren't on the same page as mine. You can say I was the Amir0x of DF. Sort of.
Cjdamon042
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I'm liking what they've done with the shadows; very nice. Plus it's good to see actual fingers on the character models in battle for once.
I do wish they used updated versions of the high poly character models but this is still a nice step up from what we currently have.
I do wish they used updated versions of the high poly character models but this is still a nice step up from what we currently have.
R10Neymarfan
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They can always release it on PSN digitally to get around that like Okami did. This will most likely happen unless they add a crapload of extras.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
That's an asinine way of thinking. And besides if people on that forum adhere to the base forum etiquette they should be fine.
The thing is, there is no etiquette despite appearances. Rules are tied to arbitrary boundaries they can redefine at will to save face. I myself was moderating the place as I were a GAF mod, taking Kagari as an example, but my "colleagues" weren't really supporting the endeavor.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
DF just has terrible administrators. You need someone who is impartial and can admit mistakes instead of having a holier then thou attitude.
And also act as a neutral judge when doing your job to keep the peace if you will.
And I genuinely feel DF as a whole was a community I simply would not be able to get along with at my core.
Well, here goes another turn, lol.
chickdigger802
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If this is taking so long, can we expect some tweaks like a brisker pace battle system and maybe some changes for that lightning bolt dodge?
And you have the right at it. I didn't forget that one time when they all ganged up on you just because you were playing Dissidia differently.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Yes, the whole Kuja Assist bumrush is the only way. Yeah I was like whatever. Didn't really appreciate the narrowminded perception. And I generally hate using assists to begin with.
And I never aspire to play competitively and the tools required to play online are not available to me.
Game should of had infrastructure and not require a round-about way to do so.
You know, I've seen a lot of people describing GAF as "elitist" (the "GAF hivemind", the "usual suspects"... even pulled the term "Kagarmi" out of my ass once) but this forum remains miles away in terms of peer-pressure in comparison to what I've got to witness over at DF.
ThatObviousUser
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Just saying.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Generalization. People do it when they have an aura of ethnocentrism.
ThatObviousUser
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On the other hand Tidus looks exactly like Meg Ryan.
Fabulous, yo.
Fabulous, yo.
KWEEN YUNA IS MORE OF A MAN OR WOMAN THAN THAT HOPELESS LESSER COULD EVER DREAM TO BE -____-
ThatObviousUser
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What the heck is a Kween? Kiwi preteen?
Again I say can we DISCUSS Yuna's flawless close up? The personification of GOD *O*
Everyone is so mean to me
Pop fandom call their faves (mostly Asian Pop) "Kweens"
Everyone is so mean to me
badcrumble
Member
Guys, not to backseat moderate, but I'm not so sure GAF is the place for endlessly discussing other forums.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Which is why I suggest Narolf to let it go.
ThatObviousUser
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Pop fandom call their faves (mostly Asian Pop) "Kweens"
Like soda pop? I like Coke I guess. Cokween.
Already acknowledged that one was a mistake. Regardless, you should consider the post into its context. I haven't done that for no reason.
staticneuron
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Considering they are actually redoing the models of the game and seemingly updating other aspects. It is hard to knock them. A game that is 10+ years old and has wide appeal may be rereleased so a newer generation can experience it or for those who missed out the first time around.
Either way I would rather they them finally update and port Type-Zero. If FFXHD makes it before Type-Zero then I will def be confused as to how they are doing things and why.
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