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A Fox News Poll released Wednesday shows that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Planned Parenthood, ObamaCare, and Vice President Mike Pence are all viewed more favorably than President Trump.

The poll of 1,008 registered voters was conducted March 12 to 14. It found that 43 percent approve and 51 percent disapprove of the job Trump is doing as president, with 30 percent strongly approving and 45 percent strongly disapproving. Respondents were also asked to say if they had a favorable or unfavorable opinion of several people, groups, and items, and Sanders came out on top, with 61 percent having a favorable reaction and 32 percent unfavorable, followed by Planned Parenthood (57 percent favorable, 32 percent unfavorable); ObamaCare (50 percent favorable, 47 percent unfavorable); and Pence (47 percent favorable, 43 percent unfavorable). Only 44 percent had a favorable view of Trump, while 53 percent had an unfavorable view.

The Week

Fox News article about the poll

The poll it self

 

[guek]

Sample size is a bit rubbish

edit: I'm a bit rubbish

 

[Spaced Harrier]

That title is bait.

And those percentages are way too close..

 

[Garrett Hawke]

sounds fake, planned parenthood is the establishment

 

[Alucrid]

fox news: moral decay is upon us. americans love communists and abortions.

 

[Veritigo_X]

Sanders-Parenthood 2020

 

[Boney]

At that town hall he did in the Trump county I later found out that after it was over he stayed and talked with people individually as they aired their grievances.

Bernie is pretty damn rad

 

[B-Dubs]

The sample size is kind of a joke. The poll doesn't really tell us anything.

 

[Lifeline]

#BernieWouldaWon

Surprised to see planned parenthood so high up considering how low Obamacare is.

Sample size is a bit rubbish

No it's not.

The sample size is kind of a joke. The poll doesn't really tell us anything.

Explain please. What's wrong with the sample size?

 

[Garrett Hawke]

#BernieWouldaWon

Surprised to see planned parenthood so high up considering how low Obamacare is.



No it's not.

Yes it is

 

[Damaniel]

The sample size is kind of a joke. The poll doesn't really tell us anything.

Sample size is a bit rubbish

A sample size of >1000 is actually really good.

 

[JoeyJungle]

Sample size is a bit rubbish

That's a normal sample size for a poll, uncertainty is + or - about 2% for that sample size.

 

[Lifeline]

Yes it is

Please look up how stats work. A sample size of 385 would have been enough for a 5% margin of error. A larger than 1,000 is really good.

 

[Dhx]

The sample size whining found in every survey thread is tiring.

For example, with a sample size of 1,000 national adults, (derived using careful random selection procedures), the results are highly likely to be accurate within a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points. Thus, if we find in a given poll that President Clinton's approval rating is 50%, the margin of error indicates that the true rating is very likely to be between 53% and 47%. It is very unlikely to be higher or lower than that.

http://www.janda.org/c10/Lectures/topic05/GallupFAQ.htm

 

[Herr Schwarz]

Oh not this again guys. Bernie would never of won the general election against one of the most historically negatively polled candidates in presidential history.

Bernie didn't even have a message, unlike Hillary's "I'm With Her". And "Love Trumps Hate"

What's Bernie got? Something something income inequality and bad trade deals hurting the rust belt? Ptchui.

Wait what

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Sample size is a bit rubbish

 

[WedgeX]

There's a poll I never thought I'd see FOX News publish.

Sample size is a bit rubbish

No, it factually is not.

 

[Aselith]

This is the future that liberals want

 

[The Technomancer]

1.) This is a very interesting poll. More evidence, I think, of the dog catching the car problem. Easy to hate Planned Parenthood when its not actually under the gun from the president

2.) Good fucking lord can we please not go through this "woulda won" yet again?

 

[More_Badass]

The sample size is kind of a joke. The poll doesn't really tell us anything.

Yes it is

This is how stats work, 1,000+ is more than enough.

 

[Puck Beaverton]

Do you guys think bernie would have won against Trump?

 

[Tristam]

Statistical inference, how does it work?

 

[tbm24]

Surprised Fox would put up a poll that shows more people are baby killers. They need to up their crusade it looks like.

 

[George Washington]

Edit:

The sample size is kind of a joke. The poll doesn't really tell us anything.

What? That sample size is perfectly fine and the fact that these results are coming from Fox News should tell you something.

 

[MonorailCat]

This is how stats work, 1,000+ is more than enough.

I gave up explaining statistics to people a long time ago. Even family members .. they just don't get .. or don't want to.

After explaining the mathematics it always ends with "yeah well, I personally know nobody that thinks like the poll, so it must be false"

 

[Lifeline]

I'm surprised how many don't teach basic statistics in high school. I remember first learning this back in middle school.

 

[guek]

The sample size whining found in every survey thread is tiring.



http://www.janda.org/c10/Lectures/topic05/GallupFAQ.htm

Apologies then, I'm used to reading medical papers

 

[Stinkles]

At that town hall he did in the Trump county I later found out that after it was over he stayed and talked with people individually as they aired their grievances.

Bernie is pretty damn rad

Saint Festivus

 

[More_Badass]

I'm surprised how many don't teach basic statistics in high school. I remember first learning this back in middle school.

Stats seems to be a college thing. At least behavioral statistics. I didnt learn stats till junior year of college, and only because I was doing a psych major

 

[sixteen-bit]

Sanders-Parenthood 2020

lmao

 

[Nokagi]

As an American I can confirm I like all those things more than Trump. Even Pence who is a well known shithead.

 

[JustenP88]

Please, Trump, tell us that Fox News is fake. Please.

 

[Dhx]

Apologies then, I'm used to reading medical papers

Being able to pivot when presented with evidence is something the world should applaud. No apology needed.

 

[Toxi]

That Planned Parenthood percentage is surprising considering our current political leadership.

 

[Lifeline]

Stats seems to be a college thing. At least behavioral statistics. I didnt learn stats till junior year of college, and only because I was doing a psych major

Might have just been my school district then since we did student body stats every couple years.

 

[BlazinSkatinAxel]

Sanders Milfs - 2020

 

[Jonsoncao]

Sample size is a bit rubbish

Mathematically it is not. 1000 would give a 95% confidence interval while stdev is very small.

 

[ahoyhoy]

That's my best girl.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Maybe there should be a stats course before entering the OT.

 

[Xe4]

Sanders is hardly surprising. but PP is to me. I'd have figured more people would have bought into the "state sponsored abortions BS". Huh, the more you know.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Bernie is kind of growing on me. I have some issues with him, particularly the worry that he somewhat represents left populism (though not nearly to the extreme or danger of right populism), but I feel like Bernie - or someone carrying his torch - could be the best way to survive 2018 and 2020.

 

[Emerson]

There are many conservatives who view Bernie Sanders pretty favorably. From my experience of listening to republicans in my family or at work talk, they view him as a true believer liberal who is at least principled, unlike Clinton whom they viewed as a liar and not that liberal in the first place.

Not specifically gonna comment on what I think about that, but I've heard a number of people express the same sentiment.

 

[Apathy]

This is how stats work, 1,000+ is more than enough.

Yeah, those replies were kinda weird. People that have never taken a basic stats class.

 

[Byakuya769]

Sample size is a bit rubbish

Ugh. Every single thread about a poll..

 

[Xe4]

I'm also surprised Obama isn't on there, ex president and all. I'd figure he'd be pretty popular right about now.

 

[Sliver]

Yes it is

This is the best reply. So fucking smug LOL

 

[Karsticles]

Do you guys think bernie would have won against Trump?

It's an unknown. How would him being openly an atheist and a socialist play with the public? How would he handle Trump in a debate? What dirt can the GOP dig up on him that no one knows or cares about right now?

Oh not this again guys. Bernie would never of won the general election against one of the most historically negatively polled candidates in presidential history.

Bernie didn't even have a message, unlike Hillary's "I'm With Her". And "Love Trumps Hate"

What's Bernie got? Something something income inequality and bad trade deals hurting the rust belt? Ptchui.

Wait what

I honestly can't think of a worse sincere campaign slogan than "I'm With Her". So fucking conceited.

 

[SwiftDeath]

fox news: moral decay is upon us. americans love socialists and abortions.

Fixed that for you.

Communist is too close to Russian to be unfavorable to the right under Comrade Trump

 

[y2dvd]

At that town hall he did in the Trump county I later found out that after it was over he stayed and talked with people individually as they aired their grievances.

Bernie is pretty damn rad

This is why I love that man. Dude genuinely gives a shit. People here question these town halls, but I think these people just want to be heard also.

 

[aeolist]

democrats are too obsessed with pushing back against the left and freaking out about russia, sanders is the only one out there presenting people with an alternative vision of what we should be doing as a country. you know, leadership stuff.