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France demands an end to TTIP talks

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France’s trade minister has increased the pressure on the proposed EU-US trade deal by calling for the talks to be called off.

Matthias Fekl, the French minister for foreign trade, tweeted that his government demanded negotiations on the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) should cease.

France has been sceptical about TTIP from the start and has threatened to block the deal, arguing the US has offered little in return for concessions made by Europe. All 28 EU member states and the European parliament will have to ratify TTIP before it comes into force.

Fekl’s statement follows similarly gloomy comments from the German economy minister, Sigmar Gabriel. He said on Sunday: “The negotiations with the United States have de facto failed, even though nobody is really admitting it.”

Gabriel’s views were at odds with public comments by the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, who said last month that the proposed US-EU deal was “absolutely in Europe’s interest”.

However, Gabriel, who leads Germany’s centre-left Social Democratic party and is vice-chancellor in Merkel’s coalition government, said: “We mustn’t submit to the American proposals.”

Gabriel said on Sunday that in 14 rounds of talks on the transatlantic pact, the two sides have not agreed on a single common item out of the 27 chapters being discussed. His spokesman blamed lack of movement by the US and said Gabriel had concluded there would not be a deal this year.

The US and the EU have been negotiating TTIP for three years to forge a free trade zone covering half the world economy. Both had sought to conclude talks this year, but differences remain.

However, a spokesman for the US trade representative, Michael Froman, said talks had not stalled. He told Germany’s Der Spiegel: “Negotiations are in fact making steady progress.”

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...demands-end-to-ttip-trade-talks-matthias-fekl



Good. TTIP seemed to bring very few if any positive things for citizens compared to the benefits for corporations.
 
Good example of why we need the EU also. A single nation can not bring pressure on the US and might have accepted. A union which knows it is the largest marketplace in the world can just say: you change this, or no deal.

That said, a trade deal between the US and EU to make trade easier would be beneficial. But it should be clearly benefiting both parties.
 

stilgar

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Truly a reflection of the impopularity of these talks. It's good to see democracy in action sometimes*


*you won't be reelected, tho
 
Good example of why we need the EU also. A single nation can not bring pressure on the US and might have accepted. A union which knows it is the largest marketplace in the world can just say: you change this, or no deal.

That said, a trade deal between the US and EU to make trade easier would be beneficial. But it should be clearly benefiting both parties.

And it should be an actual trade deal to begin with.
 

Joni

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Yet fear mongering over this thing was a reason to vote brexit for some reason :/
Like the Turkey talks it was Cameron that was the biggest supporter. Most of the bad things brought up in the brexit are caused by the British government.
 
Good for you EU. I just hope Clinton keeps her opinions consistent and dropskicks TPP into whatever hellhole it was dug up from.
 
Now do the same with Ceta and I'm happy.

It's already a done deal except for some countries bitching about visas.

Canada has bent over over to accommodate the French cheese producers and someone has to pick up the slack from the UK leaving the EU.
 

Fiend

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It's already a done deal except for some countries bitching about visas.

Canada has bent over over to accommodate the French cheese producers and someone has to pick up the slack from the UK leaving the EU.

The public perception is definetely against it. I'll be surprised if ceta really goes through, well, and disappointed because the EU got backdoor TTIP'ed.
 

spwolf

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Funniest thing is that France probably has largest farming subsidies in Europe, which their producers (such as Milk) use to destroy smaller EU countries independent producers... lets not even mention Africa, there are many documentaries there how French companies destroyed local markets due to FTA's.

So this "opposition" to FTA's within France and Germany is hilarious since they have been using FTAs to do the same thing they are fighting against now.

Things like this are going to destroy the EU.
 
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