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[Discotheque]

I hope the game is perfectly playable without focus. That's the only thing I'm not really feeling from that description.

 

[Nirolak]

This site mined some info.

http://gamingeverything.com/42090/thief-tons-of-details-from-game-informer/

Thanks.

 

[cbox]

I hope the game is perfectly playable without focus. That's the only thing I'm not really feeling from that description.

Maybe expert mode will get rid of this... I'm hoping

 

[Hot Coldman]

I like that those three sequences didn't involve any combat.

 

[Router]

Sounds good. Looks good for an early next gen game. I need to go back and play the last Game. I don't think I ever finished it.

 

[ZombieFred]

Ah the site's got all the bullet points already covered from the game informer article, never mine . Sounding good though!

 

[Derrick01]

Gameplay mechanics

- Navigation beacon shows players where to go
- “Focus” mechanic: has many uses, including being able to aid Garrett’s vision as he navigates through open levels
- Focus lights up the screen and highlights pipes you can climb + candles you can put out to make the room darker
- Can upgrade Focus
- Doing so will give you a bigger radius of things to see
- Fingerpints system: gives you hints on which drawers are best to look in
- Use Focus while pickpocketing to slow time and swipe up to three times as many items from others

Yup it's a modern game alright *sigh*

Some of those can be fixed with toggle options but some can't.

Why is everybody so worried? Didn't EM just kill it with Deus Ex: HR a couple years ago? They know what they're doing.

No they did an alright job, but that's beside the point anyway since this is a different team in Eidos Montreal.

 

[Izick]

Why is everybody so worried? Didn't EM just kill it with Deus Ex: HR a couple years ago? They know what they're doing.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

This site mined some info.

http://gamingeverything.com/42090/thief-tons-of-details-from-game-informer/

Dishonored + Arkham = Disarkhamed

 

[inm8num2]

I think this can be good.

 

[Router]

Very interested to see what this game does with lighting and particles on new hardware.

Yup it's a modern game alright *sigh*

Some of those can be fixed with toggle options but some can't.

Expert/hardcore modes will remove most of that.

 

[Samir Sedlar]

I'm going to guess it's a magical eye now instead of a mechanical eye.

spoiler from 1st game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34g2uiqD4VU
http://youtu.be/dGlCjLfpugY?t=2m3s

woooooooooooooooh, that felt awesome, I never played any Thief game but this looks way way appealing to me.

But I thought Thief was grounded in realism ?!

 

[Sloane]

Sounds okay to me. Some modern shit can't be avoided I guess but Thief 3 found the right balance between old school and what was considered mordern at the time so... Why not. And it's not called Thiaf anymore!

 

[golem]

But I thought Thief was grounded in realism ?!

Haha not at all.. though the main character doesnt have much in the way of special abilities

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

This site mined some info.

http://gamingeverything.com/42090/thief-tons-of-details-from-game-informer/

Dishonored Thief, is what they should call it. Damn duck!

I'm still optimistic as Hitman was fun and had similar issues.

 

[jon bones]

How do the original Thief games hold up? Always wanted to play them, but now I fear they may be a bit dated.

 

[Deleted member 102362]

How do the original Thief games hold up? Always wanted to play them, but now I fear they may be a bit dated.

They're all good and all still worth playing.

 

[sunnz]

What this might lack in graphics quality ( if it does) I do hope they make up for it with scale, content and a good story.

Will it be open world?

 

[Discotheque]

Focus mode could be like object highlighting though in deus ex and allow us to turn it off in the options. Hopefully

Either way I ain't using it so they better not make it important to experience

 

[Nirolak]

Dishonored + Arkham = Disarkhamed

Dishonored also had detective vision/focus, so we could technically exclude Arkham unless you were referring to something else.

 

[golem]

I dont mind the instinct/focus/whatever they want to call it that seems to be present in every Eidos game at this point, I just dont use it. I hope it is disabled in the higher difficulties though.

 

[Izick]

People are saying this game doesn't look good graphically? What the fuck?

 

[epmode]

How do the original Thief games hold up? Always wanted to play them, but now I fear they may be a bit dated.

They may look dated but they still play wonderfully. Great sound design as well.

 

[The Dutch Slayer]

on the new update:

did someone say Xiao?

Boy that brings back some memories of early internet days.

The rest seems awesome !

 

[BrokenEchelon]

HYPE HYPE HYPE.

Oh fuck. Sweet god, next-gen. I'm going to go drool for a while.

 

[Derrick01]

How do the original Thief games hold up? Always wanted to play them, but now I fear they may be a bit dated.

They're only dated in the graphics department.

The good thing about being a classic PC franchise is that the gameplay is still to this day better than anything we have. There hasn't been a stealth game that has surpassed Thief 2 in mechanics and level design.

 

[Kouichi]

http://gamingeverything.com/42090/thief-tons-of-details-from-game-informer/

The site updated with some more details

AI
- Garrett isn’t a fighter
- Fighting against four or more guards in combat won’t go well
- Guards and other NPCs are aware of the level design, so they know where a person might try to hide
- Guards understand the topography of the level and which areas could be useful for hiding
- Different NPCs will look for Garrett in different ways

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Dishonored also had detective vision/focus, so we could technically exclude Arkham unless you were referring to something else.

I honestly didn't even remember this from Dishonored. I think whenever I see that stuff, I automatically think Rocksteady Batman games. Plus, Disarkhamed is fun to say.

I sorta prefer the Metroid Prime approach to that sort of thing. At least having to choose the right visor to see something added another wrinkle to scanning, even though it made searching blindly really annoying.

 

[Deleted member 102362]

- Many of the series’ magical elements will be toned down

How's this gonna work for the Pagans?

Ooh, will the Hammerites/Pagans/Keepers all be back? Not a Thief game without them.

 

[Angry Fork]

Can't wait for this game. Deus Ex 3 is in top 5 best games this gen imo, I loved it except for the boss battles which were annoying. But the amount of multiple pathways/stealth options, and the way they rewarded you for them was so incredibly satisfying. I would go through every pathway possible just in order to find all the hidden spots.

 

[Nirolak]

- Garrett enters the room and takes a medallion
- He then uses Focus to look at the wall Eastwick is examining
- Focus shows a mysterious symbol written on the wall in blue energy
- Symbol corresponds to one of the runes written on the medallion
- Garrett turns a band of the medallion to line up that rune with an arrow, but the medallion then begins to glow with a similar blue energy
- Four adjacent rooms show four more symbols to line up
- After the last symbol is in place, the medallion whirls and spins
...
- Garrett has to hold his breath and move quick or he’ll see the same fate
...
- Another guard pins Garrett against a wall
- To buy time, Garrett enters Focus mode
- Garrett grabs the guard’s arm, jerks it back behind his soldier, eventually falls against the stone floor

Yeah I don't think focus is going to be a toggle.

 

[Hex]

People are saying this game doesn't look good graphically? What the fuck?

Get used to it, we will be hearing it for the next couple of years. "meh" "meh" "meh"
I think it motion it will be stunning.

 

[Cramoss]

Yeah I don't think focus is going to be a toggle.

Hopefully you're wrong.

 

[Hex]

http://gamingeverything.com/42090/thief-tons-of-details-from-game-informer/

The site updated with some more details

I really like the way this sounds, I hope it is implemented even half as cool as it sounds.

 

[Nirolak]

Hopefully you're wrong.

How do you think the Medallion sequence would work without Focus?

 

[Interfectum]

Is focus the new instinct?

 

[Zaventem]

All the Thief 4 apologist in this thread.

 

[AJ_Wings]

Does focus reveal enemies through walls?

 

[duckroll]

Thief: Dishonored Assassin's Creed

 

[Team Filler]

Not happy to hear how heavily the focus ability plays into the gameplay, and not happy to see that ,"many of the series' magical elements will be toned down."

 

[kayos90]

Thief: Dishonored Creed

Fixed it for you duck.

 

[Izick]

Get used to it, we will be hearing it for the next couple of years. "meh" "meh" "meh"
I think it motion it will be stunning.

I think the screens look fantastic but I guess we'll see what it really looks like when we get a trailer.

 

[KKRT00]

No, I think he means the ability that's completely broken and makes the game far too easy as a result.

You mean freeze time or possess?

Yes. Looking and feeling cool at the expense of good gameplay and good design doesn't do anything for me. Blink ruined any chance Dishonored had of being great.

Get spotted? Blink to a rooftop. Found a locked gate? Blink over it.

Yeah, so You need artificial constrains to have better gameplay design? You cant make Your own fun and goals in sandbox game, because You need restriction to be guided through the game.
And You're talking against modern game design, but seems You are perfect target for them...

 

[Derrick01]

Yeah, so You need artificial constrains to have better gameplay design? You cant make Your own fun and goals in sandbox game, because You need restriction to be guided through the game.
And You're talking against modern game design, but seems You are perfect target for them...

Yes I need game developers to do their job and make a game. If I had to make my own fun I'd still be outside creating a tree fort or having rock fights. It's lazy to just to make a sandbox with no rules or development and tell the player "well go on, do something". It's the virtual form of your parents kicking you out of the house just because they want you outside.

And don't try to talk down to me. All of the great PC titles were run by rules and restrictions, like the old Thief games. You think the player created the masterful level design in those games, or the mechanics?

 

[zkylon]

Not a big fan of Focus and upgrades but I guess that's what you get for releasing your game in 2013.

Still, it's fucking Thief, so I'm pretty fucking excited.

 

[Varg]

Really wish I but in the thief bundle daily deal on steam a few weeks ago . Never experienced this franchise before but now that I have a great pc I really would love to

 

[duckroll]

Fixed it for you duck.

You're right, Garret doesn't seem to actually go after a target to kill. He just steals things!

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

focus mode, why god, why!?!?!!?

4 or more guards. You blackjack one guard at time, not fighting. Fighting is for the weak.

 

[Omega]

Yeah I don't think focus is going to be a toggle.

another game that plays itself

the industry needs to crash already. its obvious it won't change unless forced

 

[inky]

All I need to know is if the game gives you extra EXP for headhsots. If it does I'm in.