It could be gameplay, San Andreas had a mission with the same concept (the last one, to be precise) where you had to
catch Sweet hanging from a firetruck's ladder.
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It could be gameplay, San Andreas had a mission with the same concept (the last one, to be precise) where you had to
meh, i've played every mainline game since GTA1 and i think it was an amazing GTA game.
SolidSnakex
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Quaz from B3D has said that the AA used in this trailer is exactly the same as the AA used in Max Payne 3 PS3, which is different from the AA used in the 360 version.
That being? It has to be some blurry shit.
I think i'd probably take jaggies over blur, but i don't know.
Yeah, its his son.
SolidSnakex
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He didn't mention what it was and DF's faceoff doesn't either. Here's what they had to say about it
Yeah, it's meant to correlate with the scene right before where Michael's shrink is asking if his son's a good kid. We see Mike a little steamed during the "bounce" interaction indicating that, no - he's not a good kid.
The chase could be a mission, but that specific scene looks like a straight up cutscene, possibly at the end of said chase.
Oh shit, i preordered on 360 (although i have both consoles) because GTA4 and RDR were much better on it.
Might end up switching now, but i'll wait for more info on the subject.
360 has a customizable soundtrack, but ps3 has free online.
:chills: Exactly what I wanted in a GTA game.
I must say I completely disagree. There was some hammy ass stuff in GTA IV but since then Rockstar has written a lot of great dialog for it's characters. I don't know if judging a game's writing quality on a trailer will lead to anything conclusive.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, Red Dead definitely improved the writing quality but I distinctly remember watching Deadwood at the time to immerse myself in the Wild West theme and some of the lines in that game made me cringe when comparing it to the writing of a TV show like Deadwood.
When $100+ million is being spent I don't think it's unreasonable to expect emmy worthy writing. It doesn't all have to be serious either, Sopranos had some of the funniest lines I've ever heard in a TV show. I think that type of style of writing would perfectly suit the direction in which GTA has been going.
What was shitty in the trailer? Any writing present was so basic in order to introduce people to the characters and premise of the game. Hard to gauge the quality of the full game I think.
The one thing that I could see actually eliciting a subjective response from people would be the humour at the end. Where Michael introduces Franklin and Trevor, and then Trevor makes the comment about Michael's therapist. Not the single funniest joke in the history of mankind I suppose, but I thought the delivery of both characters was funny.
The one thing that I could see actually eliciting a subjective response from people would be the humour at the end. Where Michael introduces Franklin and Trevor, and then Trevor makes the comment about Michael's therapist. Not the single funniest joke in the history of mankind I suppose, but I thought the delivery of both characters was funny.
Not gonna pretend Houser is a great writer, but comparing it to Deadwood is simply cruel.
You don't need to, he is.
Maybe it's just me I guess but his style doesn't really annoy me or belittle me. He's written character's in GTA IV for example that I can really relate to in real life.
Would David Chase and Vince Gilligan really be better videogame writers than Dan Houser? Writing for a videogame is much harder when in a videogame the characters are doing insane, outlandish things.
If David Chase and his writing crew had to write an episode of The Soprano's where Tony highjacks a train and kills 50 people, it would be an accomplishment in of itself if they could make a cohesive story behind why Tony is doing that.
I dunno, I believe the more videogame technology moves forward the more subtle and nuanced the writing will get.
Robot Pants
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Recently played through The Ballad of Gay Tony today, and the line, "therapy has a lot to answer for", is spoken by Gay Tony towards the end.
Not sure if anyone remembers that or not - I sure didn't - but thought I'd mention it.
Not sure if anyone remembers that or not - I sure didn't - but thought I'd mention it.
I fucking loathe stories in games. Almost always. I don't lower the bar for stories and writing just because it's a different medium. That said, I've always been impressed by the writing in GTA and RDR. Really just the dialogue, though, since the overall stories and arcs are normally a mess.
And yeah, watching Deadwood while playing RDR seems like a terrible idea. Nothing can match Deadwood's writing.
And yeah, watching Deadwood while playing RDR seems like a terrible idea. Nothing can match Deadwood's writing.
You'll get no argument from me. I really do think he and his co-writers are great. Especially at characters and dialogue, and all of the satirical things they do like the fake TV shows and radio commercials.
They have room to improve when it comes to more technical stuff like pacing and plot structure and whatnot, but that goes for practically the entire medium I think. And that's an interesting point you make. Television and film doesn't have to account for player agency or make room for game mechanics. They don't have to "include" the audience like games do. Seems like a tough balance between all that and storytelling.
Not at all suggesting they are perfect, but I like that they're trying and are always looking at new ways to approach story.
I think Houser can (often) do funny, over the top characters well, i can think of plenty of GTA characters i've found funny, but the same hamfistedness applies badly to more serious stuff.
I always consider the difficulty of narrating a story through an interactive medium, and i think with RDR they did a pretty good job everything considered, but still, when dramatic stuff is over the top and hamfisted, it can get grating very easily, reason why i can't enjoy most of his serious takes and social commentaries.
I can handle a "Krapea" and "Poopdeck", but Max's self loathing and poor social critique is almost unbearable.
I always consider the difficulty of narrating a story through an interactive medium, and i think with RDR they did a pretty good job everything considered, but still, when dramatic stuff is over the top and hamfisted, it can get grating very easily, reason why i can't enjoy most of his serious takes and social commentaries.
I can handle a "Krapea" and "Poopdeck", but Max's self loathing and poor social critique is almost unbearable.
This is gold.
"I MOST PLAY THE GAME". Ok, please don't hurt me.
Even better: "cod of duty is better. if this copies cod its suck".
Broder Salsa
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CF_Fighter
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Something about a kid in those kind pjs holding up those M-Rated games and excited about going on XBL seems so, so wrong.
sweetfish
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LifEndz
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What happened in the trailer to make you say that?
GlamFM
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Canis lupus
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Cop system?
From the IGN feature: "Getting to know Los Santos", a caption for one of the images in the article:
Cutting edge games journalism right there.
Link: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/11/15/grand-theft-auto-5-getting-to-know-los-santos
Cutting edge games journalism right there.
Link: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/11/15/grand-theft-auto-5-getting-to-know-los-santos
I can't believe they're trying to stretch the same old informations everybody have, for the whole week, like they have some exclusive access.
I hope at least the intreview with Houser, later today, will be interesting.
Ballistics
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The trailer is from PS3? That makes me happy.
It's still hilarious that one person says "It's too good, looks like next gen" and then the next points out all the flaws and says "They should have waited until next gen". I'm going to be playing SA on the PS2 today...I'd gladly swap that performance for this. I'll be flying a plane later when suddenly a forest pops up in front of me or I'll be driving a car into the back of another car that really wasn't there. If you are the type of person who, when driving a jeep out of a plane and parachuting down to the ground, thinks "Look at those jaggies!" then it's time you took up gardening, because flowers won't have jaggies, but are a hell of lot less fun. "Yeah, that's unrealistic to use something real against a computer graphic", yeah well it's unrealistic to expect high end PC graphics on a current gen machine with less than 512MB RAM. It will be the same at the end of next gen, when R* will have to push the hardware to get the graphics up to a level befitting that generation...and people will still say "They should have waited until next gen".
"Next gen graphics today." It applies to every generation, like a sign in a pub that says "Free drinks tomorrow".
Got word from Spanish retailers that the game will launch May the 21st here. At least that's the date they currently have on their DB. Pretty logical IMO.
tomakasatnav
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That would make my birthday downright amazing.
biggersmaller
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Agreed.
As a side note: this game will be the shit. My only fear at this point is how bad the frame rate will be. I just hope there will be a PC/next gen version at some point. No RDR port brings me worry.
Unspeakable Evil
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Him and Boyde Crowder would make great friends before they kill each other
flyinpiranha
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Dude, comparing it to one of the most well written AND acted Westerns of modern time is a bit of a stretch.
No game will be able to pull off what a well written TV series does unless it is heavily scripted. You also have to remember the audience ... not everybody that played RDR even watched or enjoyed Deadwood (especially considering the teen crowd that buys R* games) so even a 'well written' GTA would probably fall on deaf ears.
There is a reason that many games have a lowest common denominator story, and that's because the older crowd that prefers that is not the main buying audience.
Personally I like my games a little campy, it keeps them fun.
What you saw in the trailer are merely portions of the demo which some (websites/magazines/GI/IGN...) have seen. This demo is from PS3, so the trailer is from PS3 too .
It´s not necessary to analize the AA to reach this conclusion.
We don't know for sure that the trailer is PS3 footage though. We don't even know if it's in-game, to be honest. The trailer doesn't note that which R* always went out of their way to say about LA Noire (I don't care if it was Team Bobdi, they still did) and Max Payne 3. And I think that might be worth questioning.
But let's call plausible guesses, plausible guesses, shall we? We know it's a GTA V trailer. That's it. Everything past that's a guess.
Zoso
It's been a long time, been a long time, been a long lonely lonely lonely lonely lonely time.
Mafia 2 had probably the best wanted system I've seen yet. They tracked your wanted level and then whether the police had your vehicle or clothing description. If you commit a crime in a vehicle all you'll have to do is duck into an alley and dump the car and you'll lose your wanted status. Similarly if they have your clothing description you have to change clothes either at your safehouse or at a clothing store.
Then they used a star system to rate your offenses:
1 star - minor offense. The cop pulls you over and you usually just get a ticket
2 star - they attempt to arrest you. you can choose to comply, resist, or bribe
3 star - they shoot at you. you can kill them or escape to a phone booth and bribe them off
4 star - police use heavy weapons. Your only way out is by killing them all or changing clothes/vehicles.
I really hope GTAV has a more advanced wanted system. GTAIV's was extremely basic.
Not to mention clunky and unfair. So much needless time wasted because of unfair cop car spawns on the edge of city-spanning wanted areas. Mafia 2's sounds more in depth, but also a little too easy to duck wanted levels, depending on how many phone booths/safehouses litter the town(s).