Rules are fine. Hypocrisy in their application is grating.
Can you give people an example?
Rules are fine. Hypocrisy in their application is grating.
It just seems to me that if you are a popular poster, inevitably you will be permabanned.
That's understandable man. Wouldn't want to catch you in a bad way. People have been getting banned in some threads almost like banning is a communicable disease anyway. Like herpes, ya know?
Can you give people an example?
I know right? high-five!
It just seems to me that if you are a popular poster, inevitably you will be permabanned.
You have a tag, you're one of the beautiful people, the chosen few who are touched by god. I would love to high five you but I can't, your presence is known by the higher beings. May god have mercy on your soul.
*high fives*
Its one of the most tolerant forums ever because of the rules.
Is it really tolerant or do the intolerant just not speak up because they will be banned?
Indeed, I think you know exactly what i'm talking about then. In that context, emotional trauma and physical trauma were the point I intended to make. I asked a poll of people about the subject just to see if I was being unfair, and when I was able to explain in some detail, most thought it was a fair stance. The problem is, if the situation is personal to you, it becomes impossible to make it fair sounding.
The fact is though, I've donated money to human rights campaigns for gay/transexual rights, am in no way racist or bigoted, and generally think i'm a pretty fair person on most levels, but that doesn't mean I don't think those same groups can do no wrong, and feel at times, both sides do screwed up things. Example being people who heckle and give Chik Fil A employees shit and call them gay hating extremist assholes, when in reality they probably don't have anything against them and just want to make a living.
Some people hate Chick Fil A now for their stance, and I agree with them, but you should direct the hate specifically at the person causing the problem and not the average joe who just holds a minimum wage job. There are idiots on every side, even the ones that are being screwed by unfair systems, I'm the person who tries to see the fair side for both ends.
That isn't the point of this topic though, that situation ended and can't be changed, but it's not reflective of my opinions or views as a person regardless of how cheeky you try to be. In general, I do feel gaf is pretty fair, but at times you just see bans happen and just can't help but wonder why (and these bans have been noted as unfair even by mods at times, usually resulting in some mod losing their power), so it's not a perfect system.
Indeed, I think you know exactly what i'm talking about then. In that context, emotional trauma and physical trauma were the point I intended to make. I asked a poll of people about the subject just to see if I was being unfair, and when I was able to explain in some detail, most thought it was a fair stance. The problem is, if the situation is personal to you, it becomes impossible to make it fair sounding.
The fact is though, I've donated money to human rights campaigns for gay/transexual rights, am in no way racist or bigoted, and generally think i'm a pretty fair person on most levels, but that doesn't mean I don't think those same groups can do no wrong, and feel at times, both sides do screwed up things. Example being people who heckle and give Chik Fil A employees shit and call them gay hating extremist assholes, when in reality they probably don't have anything against them and just want to make a living.
Some people hate Chick Fil A now for their stance, and I agree with them, but you should direct the hate specifically at the person causing the problem and not the average joe who just holds a minimum wage job. There are idiots on every side, even the ones that are being screwed by unfair systems, I'm the person who tries to see the fair side for both ends.
That isn't the point of this topic though, that situation ended and can't be changed, but it's not reflective of my opinions or views as a person regardless of how cheeky you try to be. In general, I do feel gaf is pretty fair, but at times you just see bans happen and just can't help but wonder why (and these bans have been noted as unfair even by mods at times, usually resulting in some mod losing their power), so it's not a perfect system.
I think it's a little weird that you can get banned for using words that people use on television all the time.
Did someone mention that this' a trap thread
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I think that situation though, bottom line, the actual post you made was COMPLETELY out of line, over the top and unacceptable. The "trauma" of the two circumstances? REALLY? On it's face that wasn't a smart comparison because it was going to be inherently inflammatory in a thread like that (although to be fair your comment wasn't nearly the worst in that thread).
and in fact, look at trans threads TODAY and back then. Even if you think you got a raw deal there (and I personally don't) it's WORTH it considering how much stronger and vibrant that trans community is here compared to other forums with less stringent protections. How many forums are TOTALLY devoid of TG, gay, or female posters simply because the environment doesn't protect and cultivate them? Is it possible some of the people caught in the net meant something else but it came out badly? I guess so but look at the results. It's absolutely worth it.
While some folks on GAF do seem to jump the gun with tossing around 'troll' accusations, by the same token there's a lot of exaggerated and trumped up claims about getting banned if you don't agree with the 'hive mind'. Which is malarkey. There are so many dissenting opinions in virtually every topic on GAF, that the popular opinion seems to go the other way: that there should be more warnings about 'shitting up' threads by disrupting them.
If you have an opinion you think dissents against a perceived majority - and that can be an illusion given how big GAF is - you generally do not get into trouble if you can articulate your opinion in a way that's considerate of others. Even if you feel really strongly and get fired up.
The zones of lowest tolerance for shenanigans on GAF seem to involve threads where basic human respect could be offended, such as the aforementioned issues of gender, LGBT, or ethnic topics. On the whole, those are areas important enough that erring on the side of strictness is probably appropriate. Especially considering what a cesspool the bulk of the internet on those topics.
Those groups should be protected against hateful people who are intolerant bigots yes, that doesn't mean I agree with all of their point of views and at times, you are really not allowed to state your side without being banned regardless of if you post it in an offensive or civil way. Progression is nice, that doesn't mean it's always handled well. I have no real quarrels with the incident I was in because it's in the past and over with, however, I do think a lot of people do end up being taken out just because their view is not the PC one.
Can you give an example of this? Because there were many posters in that thread who managed to say they would be upset by it but NOT compare people to an STD and they weren't banned.
I don't have a tracking on any topics or threads to make a tally for this sort of thing like you may, if anyone could find the injustice, it would probably be you rather than myself. If you think it never happens and the policy enforcement is entirely perfect, than i'm happy you feel as such and enjoy the rule set 100 percent, since I can't list a specific example regarding other posters I suppose that must mean it doesn't happen
I bet a lot of posters dragona took out would probably disagree about the perfect rule enforcement though, I also remember a mod locked a mega topic I made simply because I didn't include a platform I have little knowledge on (pc) despite the hours of work it took to create it, with no way to even try to reason about it. There was nothing there to bash or hate the platform, it was just designed to appeal to console users and that was unacceptable.
Yes, it's much too strict. It feels like I'm walking on eggshells in here half the time.
What? It seems to me that popular posters can get away with way more shit than the average poster and never get permabanned.
I don't have a tracking on any topics or threads to make a tally for this sort of thing like you may, if anyone could find the injustice, it would probably be you rather than myself. If you think it never happens and the policy enforcement is entirely perfect, than i'm happy you feel as such and enjoy the rule set 100 percent, since I can't list a specific example regarding other posters I suppose that must mean it doesn't happen
I bet a lot of posters dragona took out would probably disagree about the perfect rule enforcement though, I also remember a mod locked a mega topic I made simply because I didn't include a platform I have little knowledge on (pc) despite the hours of work it took to create it, with no way to even try to reason about it. There was nothing there to bash or hate the platform, it was just designed to appeal to console users and that was unacceptable.
Anyways, so far this topic seems pretty civil so hopefully it stays that way, i'm off to bed so if I'm not responding to further replies it's not because I am ignoring anything.
what is the context of this Gaborn/goldenpp conversation?
I think GAF moderation, on the whole, is fantastic once you accept that Christianity is not a protected class.
on a scale of 1-10 how much would every one of you hate me if i went back to this avatar
It's as protected as any other belief on this forum.
- Racist / Bigoted humour or language. As per the Terms of Service, "you will not use NeoGAF to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law. Sexual, racial, or ethnic slurs will not be tolerated in any form and are bannable on the first offense." This includes racial or bigoted humour. We do not allow any slurs--including middle school language like "That's so gay!". This also includes racist comedy images, for example "Shoop da Woop" or "Stole My Bike". It also includes misogynistic, sexist, homophobic, or anti-transgendered remarks, jokes, or memes. Although we do allow some humour that offends, it's easily possible to cross the line and people are banned for particularly cruel and insensitive remarks all the time ("rape time" is one example--and I know the "nicole bass" meme was a big thing years ago, and no shortage of people have been banned in threads commenting on natural disasters).
I feel there's a bit too much political correctness in regards to certain subjects and terminology. But other than that, I'm very happy with how gaf is currently.
Funny, religion seems to be missing.
It's hard to walk into a religion thread without stumbling over the 'child rapist priests' comments or others lumping all of Christianity in with Westboro Baptist church. I dare say bronies are more of a protected class on GAF. I'm not knocking it. It is what it is; let's not pretend it's something that it's clearly not.
Depends on the length of the joke.on a scale of 1-10 how much would every one of you hate me if i went back to this avatar
and how many times did you PM a mod with a problematic post?
Assuming you're serious, Ill give you a serious answer: none. The tidal wave of problematic posts would crash the system. You are joking, right?
Assuming you're serious, Ill give you a serious answer: none. The tidal wave of problematic posts would crash the system. You are joking, right?