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Jotamide
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Watched the first 2 episodes and it's just 3edgy5me.
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Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress |OT| The Real AOTS (Attack on Titan Stand-In)
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OniBarubary
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I'd actually say that it being so close to Attack on Titan actually did a lot more for me liking this show as it really showed where AoT was lacking and where this show was succeeding. I generally don't give a fuck about derivative works as long as the execution is good and to be honest, the execution for this show is pretty damn good. You could point out something you liked about AoT and I could probably point out how Kabaneri does it better (except maybe for the effectiveness of the monsters in how scary/threatening they are). Every time someone compares it it's like "If you sat them right next to each other why would you ever prefer AoT?"
did you watch the right show
Angelus Errare
Banned
Mumei gives no fucks.
Vigilant Walrus
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I really enjoy this show. the animation reminds me of ninja scroll:3
loved the ending song! vreryy niiicceee; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF4XPohfZlU
loved the ending song! vreryy niiicceee; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF4XPohfZlU
I've watched the first two episodes. I like it. I see the resemblance to Attack on Titan, though I felt much more worried for the characters when I first started that.
Admiral Woofington
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This isn't even an edgy show, let alone the edgiest show of the season. It's a zombie story so unless you consider those edgy then...
The Abominable Snowman
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Finally, Amazon Prime is good for something.
Just watched all three eps available so far. MC is more appealing than Eren, and Mumei and train conducting girl (best girl) are great as well, but I'm not really feeling the other chars. Still better than AoT's first three episodes and I'm sticking with the series.
Just watched all three eps available so far. MC is more appealing than Eren, and Mumei and train conducting girl (best girl) are great as well, but I'm not really feeling the other chars. Still better than AoT's first three episodes and I'm sticking with the series.
Hades Hotgun
Banned
Episode three continues to impress in pacing, characterization, and design.
Kabaneri is nicely filling the hole left by Iron Blood Orphans for me.
Kabaneri is nicely filling the hole left by Iron Blood Orphans for me.
JoeyJungle
Banned
What is the edgiest of the season? I think the other person was referring to the gore and atmosphere, I don't know anything else this season that's comparable.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Admiral Woofington
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Yeah big order is try hard edgy.
DarknessTear
Banned
Ugh, episode 4 was so good. Also as much as I hate on the composer for his other work, it's working really well for this show.
(Inverting Mikasa being the only Asian character in AoT)Kabaneri-4
It's comes off as Okouchi knowing he had to do this plot point and wanted to wrap it up quickly instead of actually being interested in the short subplot. It just begs the question of why? This is in addition to some bizarre aspects like Sukari and Kajika being thrown into the back with Mumei and Ikoma. There's no reason characters in the show would lump them together. It's just lazy and contrived writing. We also had to have the Kabaneri locked up so the super Samurai Kabane can come and massacre everybody. Not to mention the sequences have extremely ridiculously convenient timing such as just before the Kabaneri cart is about to be cut off, a group of Kabane attack stopping the villagers. Piss poor writing on multiple fronts.
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So episode 4 serves as the closing of the introductory arc. It's weird because I've never seen a show have such a sense of finality and closure to it despite only being four episodes into a full cour. The way I would describe it is the ending to a miniseries. I'm actually curious as to whether Kabaneri was initially developed as a short series or OVA run and was fleshed out to 12 episodes for TV. I know that would be highly unusual so I doubt that's the actual case, however elements such as the pacing and character development in this episode seem like a better fit for the end of a cour. The reason I'm describing this episode in these terms is two-folds.
The first reason is the initial 10 minutes of the episode in which the show has the dumb
adult villagers taking control and fucking up as expected. Now this naturally builds upon the previous episode's setup however it comes across as perfunctory in nature due to the pacing. The villager's challenging Ayame is fine as a plot point however the half-assed way Ayame gives up control didn't set right with me. This is a woman who was essentially trained from birth to be a leader and she just goes 'welp whatever' with little serious internal questioning on her part. There needed to have been more groundwork with her voicing that self-doubt and also having the villagers be presented as a viable alternative. The villagers then do a series of obvious dumb ass decisions resulting in half the train being dead in a period of three minutes.
The second reason is due to the ending which has Ikoma getting blood and becoming a badass. It made me wonder if I had accidentally watched episode 6 by mistake. He even reverses Mumei's line and uses an one-liner from episode 3. Wut? Didn't anybody think it was a little early for that? Dude should still be scrub tier in his fighting. In the scene afterwards, Ikoma is talking about his sister and it had an irregular sense of closure along with the group shot that screams a 'And our battles continue on...' sort of ending. This is reinforced with the bright green color usage, in contrast to the earlier sickly green, and sunlight.
As for the direction, it was definitely reminiscent of the first episode, which is to say 'loud'. Sawano vocals blaring at the usual junction points and moments. There's also the above scene which just screamed Araki and made me think he at least storyboarded the episode. Obviously I was wrong but it has that theatrical Snyder-like flair that I attribute to Araki. I like the visual framing of the shots in the sequence but it's also a bit too much. Ayame's blood flying past is great but the shot with
This part of the sequence has good framing.
This not so much.
him licking her finger is kinda cheesy
In regards to the animation, WIT be struggling. Surprise, everybody. I bet nobody saw that coming. There were heavy usages of still-frames with speedlines on the side, not just for the crowds as used in the past, but also during some the action sequences. It's still not as bad as the low points in shows like Seraph of the End but the seams are definitely becoming undone. There were some examples of good animation such as one of the dramatic explosions but then you would have janky running scenes right after. The fight sequences in general didn't have the visual oomph that other episodes had. The last fight with Ikoma vs Samurai Kabane was pretty anti-climatic and flat for whatever reason. There were also less high quality close-ups.
Staff be slippin'.
So when does season 2 come out?
Admiral Woofington
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Kabaneri episode 4
Episode was hype and all, passed the 4 episode rule with flying colors except for some downgrades to quality which is expected.
But lmao was the smiling baby necessary at the end? It's like we get it, people are happy, but that smiling baby was like a punch to the gut in framing/symbolism.
Episode was hype and all, passed the 4 episode rule with flying colors except for some downgrades to quality which is expected.
But lmao was the smiling baby necessary at the end? It's like we get it, people are happy, but that smiling baby was like a punch to the gut in framing/symbolism.
Pretty enjoyable, some animation slippage but overall the execution is still pretty spot on.
The thing with Ayame has been referenced since the first episode with the douche villagers looking to take control since her father died. It also wasn't a big stretch with the "Mumei killed pregnant lady and Ikoma tried to drink me" scene from the last episode.
She was at a low point with the villagers from a trust perspective after those events.
I did think the finger licking was a little on the nose though. Would have been better off with a more visceral/physical interaction like taking the wrist or her cupping the hand. Maybe they're trying to assert that she's the boss and he isn't.
The thing with Ayame has been referenced since the first episode with the douche villagers looking to take control since her father died. It also wasn't a big stretch with the "Mumei killed pregnant lady and Ikoma tried to drink me" scene from the last episode.
She was at a low point with the villagers from a trust perspective after those events.
I did think the finger licking was a little on the nose though. Would have been better off with a more visceral/physical interaction like taking the wrist or her cupping the hand. Maybe they're trying to assert that she's the boss and he isn't.
WickedLaharl
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This show is so fucking good. 99% of anime anymore is total trash (especially this season with flops like MHA) but kabaneri is part of the privileged 1%
TheRealTalker
Banned
great episode
glad stuck up Samurai finally got the message and grew up
glad stuck up Samurai finally got the message and grew up
Cornbread78
Member
Not too bad overall. It was good to see Ikuma had to step up this episode to save the day instead of Mumei like usual. I also hope that Katana jerk will stay on the Kabaneri train now and stop being an ass. Blood, blood for both of them!
Admiral Woofington
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I hope samurai is just tsundere the whole show
I-it's not like Im giving you blood because I care about you, I only need your strength b-baka
Cornbread78
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Lol.
I would want Ikuma to blow his heart out of his chest by the time it's over then..
Admiral Woofington
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So in discussion of his heart, why did he even make it into a Ranged weapon? Seems like he uses it like a melee jackhammer type weapon with explosives since he seems to get right to their chest so it works.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
damn this is the kind of post i thought the thread would be full of when i made it
The floodgates are now open!
Admiral Woofington
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I didn't know Miyazaki had a gaf account
hosannainexcelsis
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There have been a few others, but yeah. Maybe the other people who think that if only there was more gritty violence in anime it'd be good just haven't bothered to watch this.
DarknessTear
Banned
Blonde western guy is voiced by someone named Maxwell Powers. He appears to not be Japanese? Or maybe half Japanese.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
...Max Power
He's like the Sasuke of the show
Admiral Woofington
Member
So far the gimmick hasn't changed the show. Attack on Titan had the cool Spiderman shit and that should've been enough, but then it had to change to Titan wonder twin powers.
Ragnorok64
Member
So I'm trying to figure out the rules of the kabane. How quickly do people turn? Also those suicide bags have had wildly different effects within these first 4 episodes.
I'm sure there isn't a valid explanation for this.
When I watched it last night, I knew something felt off when a whole armored train car exploded from one bag.
Wasn't the guy in the latest episode laid against some explosive barrels? Don't ask me why they had explosive barrels on the train but that's what it looked like.
No, the guy threw himself against the barrel of explosives. He suicide bomb the Kabane.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Guys there was a big explosion from the suicide bag because he dove in front of three barrels of gunpowder...
Sparkedglory
Member
It was a good episode. I just wish Ikoma's fight was a bit longer, not too big of an issue though. However the freaking smiling baby. My cheese detectors went off the scale for that part. Lmao
Admiral Woofington
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You and I will get along
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