And_Gignac
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It is called a joke.
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Mario Kart 8 sells (to consumers) ~2 million units in 1 month WW
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It is called a joke.
I recognize your point, and I understand that tradition has its place. Mario Kart is fine for being Mario Kart, but it saddens me that the frontrunner of a console at this point in its life is essentially the same thing in a different wrapper. Tradition is a wonderful thing, but I think there's a point where it begins to stifle creativity. That is my point, and the reason for my question as to whether the sales and hype are truly deserved.
But I have the feeling what I'm saying won't really lead to anything more than aggressive responses from most, so I'll just leave it at that. Ultimately there's no point in getting all worked up about what someone says on the internet, so try not to take my comments to heart, guys. I'm not trying to shit all over the stuff that you love, even if I don't totally agree with what's being said.
Yet they do it with restraint. Each Nintendo platform gets one Mario Kart game, and they always have enough changes and new content that people don't feel like they're buying the same thing over again.
What Nintendo does with Mario Kart is nothing compared to the big publishers' yearly and 2-year series. If you're going to shit on Mario Kart for being samey, you should probably say something about those.
Not quite. It was criticized for more than one reason.
Their predictions were all over the place. They said it would be the worst selling MK, and this could still be true in the long run, but they also stated that it would sell 1.99 million by march 2015 as the best case scenario. They also throwed an estimate of 1.26 million sales without explaining when they expected it would be reached or if this was the expected "probable" LTD
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Also it seems they were comparing estimates of MK8 first-year sales vs. LTD sales on all the other platforms.
Out of curiosity, do you believe Watch Dogs deserved its sales and hype?
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Oh, sorry... flew right above my noggin.
Pretty impressive. See, in the end while WiiU is an underperforming platform, it'll probably outsell systems like TG16, Saturn and Dreamcast and become a tiny, moderate success. Sure, that's a low goal and by far Nintendo's lowest selling system if it doesn't even reach GCN numbers, but I'd see it as a tiny, moderate success if it ends up being one of those systems (while making at least some money for Nintendo, and getting a cool library which is indeed happening) as opposed to downright tragedy-systems like 3DO, Jaguar, Pippin, CD-i, N-Gage, Gizmondo, etc.
One last thing, what I've said is most certainly not tied to Nintendo. A lot of companies do the same things year after year, and are far worse offenders. Trust me that I dislike that just as much! Also I have actually forgotten how long it's been since a Mario Kart was released on a home console, which does make somewhat of a difference. Anyway, that's enough Mario Kart talk for me.
No, but that's another conversation entirely.
The Wii U is the darling GAF deserves, and the darling GAF needs. We have two systems sharing most of the same games, but the lowly little Wii U has sat in the back of the room, quietly building up a strong stable of exclusives and then impressed even further at E3 with a showing of an even stronger future as we move forward. All without online subscriptions, a cheaper price and full backwards compatibility. No, it will not be a roaring success, but it sure as hell is shaping up into an amazing system with plenty to offer that can't be had elsewhere.
I never really understand posts like these (since more than just MK get them). I mostly just don't understand what changes people realistically expect an ongoing series to go under outside of becoming a different game entirely. They have a base concept that people respond well to and each new game offers improvements/changes. Anytime someone says that sequels should offer more than the previous game it always sounds so intangible, they never give a clear idea what any of that actually means as is the case with your posts as well. You say that the game should offer more than the previous but do not mention a single thing that it should actually offer.
It's not like the game is exactly the same as the previous one with newer graphics, there are plenty of changes but they are much more subtle since at the broadest level this is still a kart racing game, just like the rest.
Yup.
BTW that's probably the worst redacted post in my GAF history and now that you quoted it I won't bother fixing it, lol.
MisterGrey3000
Member
I have no idea why you would take that dumb chalk board meme seriously.
Even if MK8 ended up "saving" the WiiU everyone would still use it as a big joke.
IdreamofHIME
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Absolute fools for not getting this released before last Xmas as their #1 priority.
Honey Bunny
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Aw thats so sweet
MisterGrey3000
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What did you want them to do release a buggy game with 5 levels and more Mario recolors?
It worked for EA and Battlefield 4.
jts
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Development should've started earlier then. Planning goes a long way...
grimlock442
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Iirc, production of MK8 started around June 2012.
It probably was in preproduction for a while though.
That would have helped, though Wii U is going to smash next Christmas with the MK8 bundle, Amiibos and co.
jts
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Well, then MK7 development should've started earlier and so forth
I'm guessing they didn't feel the need to plan for this kind of big hitter to hit during the holiday season, back when the Wii U was being developed and planned. Left that season cleared for 3D World (which needs the holiday boost a bit more than Mario Kart).
they probably figured Mario world would be enough. its hard to say if Mario kart 8 has helped move that many systems but it seems like it has.
this year if they're smart they'll release a track pack, battle mode and character dlc expansion before the holiday season and advertise that along side smash brothers.
I think that at the time rescuing the 3DS was their #1 priority.
MisterGrey3000
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Well, then MK7 development should've started earlier and so forth
It's easy to say this with hindsight, but game development takes a long time.
Things don't always go as planned, and other important projects often get in the way.
I doubt EAD1 was only working on MK8 after they finished 7. I'm sure those guys were spread around to help with other projects like Nintendo Land.
To be fair, at the time they were relying on third parties to fill the launch window, which is why they deliberately delayed Pikmin 3. Then you saw what happened...
The Broken Ska Record
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The 3DS was doing well enough last Holiday.
thekiddfran
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Came out earlier in Japan I think.
That has to be an Arthur Geis chart?
ReduxMachine
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The free game with MK8 deal over here may have helped it sell so much.
I can't deny I've bought the game primarily because of the free game.
due to the games released before last holiday. before a game is released it must be developed, which takes some time.
my point is nintendo was working on 3DS games, not wiiu games. thus the drought.
IGN has reportedly contacted Nintendo and received Confirmation on the 2 Million Units Sold.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/27/2-million-copies-of-mario-kart-8-have-reportedly-been-sold
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/27/2-million-copies-of-mario-kart-8-have-reportedly-been-sold
That's a great start. Mario Kart 8 confirms its phenomenon status vs games like Mario 3D World, it's a total different beast.
alright so who wants to do the math to estimate how much itll sell this month along with wiiU numbers?
Windom Earle
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I added one sale yesterday. Looking forward to try the game soon.
grimlock442
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pieatorium
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I say great! Really hope they keep the momentum up with DLC and other things.
We can roughly estimate MK8 did in the area of 400k in June for North America - unless European sales are incredibly strong. We know sales in Japan are close to 500k. So an additional 400k in US would bring totals to about 800k in the region, 500k in Japan, and another 700 or so for Europe seems reasonable.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Really happy to be wrong about this one.
Now if only I could be super wrong about Bayo 2
Now if only I could be super wrong about Bayo 2
OuterLimits
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Was never a big fan of the series, but I am enjoying the game quite a bit. Even though I suck at it. Getting the free game made it an easy purchase.
jts
...hate me...
Holiday vs not holiday, plus check the legs on this one.
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Terrible_Majesty
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if nintendo can add some dlc and updates to improve the game like balancing items, no more coin items, better hud that includes item views of everyones items, it can give new life to sales
I'm going to do that as well, because of the free game promotion. Later this year I will get a wii u
akidnamededdy
Banned
If you're already going to own two games for the system I have to ask why you're waiting to buy the system itself. Waiting for more games is kind of silly if you already own games, and a price drop is highly unlikely. Are you waiting for a Smash bundle or something? Do you just not have the money? HELP ME UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE YOU.