Being a fanboy takes some hardcore devotion and sacrifice...ethelred said:It must suck to have to hate one of one's favorite game series just because it moves to a non-ideal platform.
Being a fanboy takes some hardcore devotion and sacrifice...ethelred said:It must suck to have to hate one of one's favorite game series just because it moves to a non-ideal platform.
sacrifice? you mean denial.Akai said:Being a fanboy takes some hardcore devotion and sacrifice...
Denial!? There is no such thing!jooey said:sacrifice? you mean denial.
ethelred said::lol
It must suck to have to hate one of one's favorite game series just because it moves to a non-ideal platform.
At least your not angry like Kurosaki huh.WickedLaharl said:it would indeed suck, and while i personally will not be going into hater mode, i won't be buying any of the tales DS games new. i'll buy them bitches used, or rent them. i hate you namco! :<
:lol yeah what the hell is going on in here?BrodiemanTTR said:Now the tears fall like rain from fanboy skies.
Haunted One said::lol yeah what the hell is going on in here?
GamerSoul said:It's expensive being a Tales fan. Half of the stuff would have to be imported. Right now, I'm just happy they confirmed something that I want and the art style is cool. I think this should be the art direction of the series.
Hcoregamer00 said:So basically more of the same....
You're going a bit far there don't you think? TALES WILL NEVER BE GOOD EVER BECAUSE OF THIS!Kurosaki Ichigo said:So I just come from some small holidays and...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6972482&postcount=105
(ToS 2 Wii IGN thread)
So be it. No point saying anything more.
Avatar change tomorrow, going back to old times I guess (giving this nickname a reason again).
schuelma said:So ethelred, now that you know what you do about the new Wii game, are you still a bit optimistic, or do you think its going to be a flaming turd?
WickedLaharl said:it would indeed suck, and while i personally will not be going into hater mode, i won't be buying any of the tales DS games new. i'll buy them bitches used, or rent them. i hate you namco! :<
GreenGlowingGoo said:You're going to buy it used as a protest? And if it's really good and you get tons of enjoyment out of it, will it still make you feel better that you stuck it to them even though they gave you a quality product?
WickedLaharl said:it would indeed suck, and while i personally will not be going into hater mode, i won't be buying any of the tales DS games new. i'll buy them bitches used, or rent them. i hate you namco! :<
GreenGlowingGoo said:You're going to buy it used as a protest? And if it's really good and you get tons of enjoyment out of it, will it still make you feel better that you stuck it to them even though they gave you a quality product?
Just wait for impressions. I find it amusing that somehow you think that giving gamestop all your money instead of a portion to namco is a victory for you. Well keep fighting the good fight.
Firestorm said:It's like what I do to play Sonic games =( It sucks being a fanboy of a series where you have to wade through 5 crappy games to get to 1 good one.
GreenGlowingGoo said:You're going to buy it used as a protest? And if it's really good and you get tons of enjoyment out of it, will it still make you feel better that you stuck it to them even though they gave you a quality product?
Just wait for impressions. I find it amusing that somehow you think that giving gamestop all your money instead of a portion to namco is a victory for you. Well keep fighting the good fight.
wow, way to read into my post, plus the others saying angry, bitter, every tales won't be good and such...what can I say, good for you :lolethelred said::lol
It must suck to have to hate one of one's favorite game series just because it moves to a non-ideal platform.
Kurosaki Ichigo said:wow, way to read into my post, plus the others saying angry, bitter, every tales won't be good and such...what can I say, good for you :lol
Kurosaki Ichigo said:Its sad that most people here don't give a shit about the tales series and only come here to try to make caturday, megaton, downwhelmaton, downfalls and other NeoFAQs festivals. Pretty sad.
Oh sorry, I forgot that allows everyone to put words in my mouth :lolethelred said:What's being read into your post? You said we can all count you as a Tales hater now. That seems cut and dry.
Yeah, while I wasn't here for like 600 of the posts here, I already saw two or three references to me in those pages. I'm sure everyone knew how much will I be affected back then :lolcvxfreak said:It is a fact that caturday, megaton, downwhelmaton, downfalls and other NeoFAQs festivals depend on the reactions of those most affected by the announcements. :/
WickedLaharl said:hell yeah i'm going to buy it used as a protest. i'm gonna stick it to namco for hurting me by giving gamestop my monies. better gamestop than namco in this situation!
and you see it could be a quality handheld game, but i'd much rather have a quality console game (preferably new gen, but any console would do).
i just don't want the series stuck on a handheld.
Error said:I dont get this... 'it's on a handheld it sucks' mentality.
didnt stop Zelda, Fire Emblem, SRW, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Mario, Metroid from rocking. what makes this Tales of series so different that it has to suddenly be exclusive to consoles?
Error said:I dont get this... 'it's on a handheld it sucks' mentality.
didnt stop Zelda, Fire Emblem, SRW, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Mario, Metroid from rocking. what makes this Tales of series so different that it has to suddenly be exclusive to consoles?
kiryogi said:But getting the full visual and audio prensentation that Tales is known for is usually something only the consoles pull off
Error said:I dont get this... 'it's on a handheld it sucks' mentality.
didnt stop Zelda, Fire Emblem, SRW, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Mario, Metroid from rocking. what makes this Tales of series so different that it has to suddenly be exclusive to consoles?
ethelred said:You know... we don't know that the non-Dumps DS games are going to be crappy. Making a prejudgement that they're going to be crappy and you'll be forced to buy them used... Iunno, why not hope for the best and wait to see how the games turn out before going apocalyptic?
Datschge said:I wouldn't put any hope into the Wii ToS "sequel" Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk. People talk about the Soul Calibur creative director as if that's a positive thing for the game, but the only Tales related credits for that Teruaki Konishi (小西輝彰 person I found so far are as co-producer for Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 and as director for Tales of the Tempest...
Shouta said:Tossing it on a handheld (excluding PSP) and accepting it is ultimately settling for less.
ITA84 said:Why do you exclude PSP? It's still a handheld, meaning that the budget for games would still be limited when compared with consoles'. A lot of PSP games are remakes because it costs less and they still manage to stuff a lot of multimedia enhancements in it (VA, effects, movies).
It's still a very good thing for non-Japanese gamers who want to play games which didn't make it outside of Japan, but the fact is that PSP won't be getting many high budget (-> high value) games (unless it becomes another DS and PS3 fails hard).
Off topic: lots of Persona 3 avatars in this thread...
Datschge said:I wouldn't put any hope into the Wii ToS "sequel" Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk. People talk about the Soul Calibur creative director as if that's a positive thing for the game, but the only Tales related credits for that Teruaki Konishi (小西輝彰 person I found so far are as co-producer for Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 and as director for Tales of the Tempest...
Mr. Pointy said:I am kind of surprised that Namco hasn't invested in a proper Tales game for the PSP. They could have commisioned Alfa System to build it after they wrapped up Radiant Mythology. It's a pity really.
Oh well, back to watching the bitter tears.
Actually Tempest has 6 persons called directors, and two of them are neither from Dimps nor from NBGI, what did those direct? =PFarore said:and actually, the director of Tales of the Tempest is Takeshi Narita
I like how you are so sure of that. Unfortunately I've never heard anyone official clarify how much influence Namco/NBGI is taking on the game development. Either there is some which makes Konishi's director role significant, or there isn't any which makes Namco/NBGI little more than fulfilling the standard publisher role. As much as I like to believe the latter this is rather unlikely as we have already seen significant development contributions from the Namco side (Eternia's Namco staff had plenty tangible in-game results, enough to make them think they could do a new Tales [MelFes/Legendia] on their own, Abyss had quite some important contributors as well etc.) with credits not looking different than this one.Farore said:Konishi is the director of Namco Bandai Games Inc. Production staff (along with 2 other guys)... so, he didn't directed the game, he was in the team responsible of the commercialization/publicity/sales/etc. of the game...
Farore said:That's always my mentality about the games we don't know anything about yet... but then you read this:
And you have to admit that's not exactly something to be really positive about...
Shouta said:And the best iterations in each of those series has been on consoles (except maybe Metroid).
Shouta said:This is especially true for for games and series where the experience is everything about it rather than just the gameplay. For Tales, the audio and visual presentation is a huge part of the experience and putting it on a handheld is limiting the possibilities for those areas. When you limit the audio and visual elements, you're gimping the experience. Would you see a version of an animated movie with a poor number of frames and poor voice acting or the same movie with lush animation and top-notch voice acting?
This is one of the reasons why I made a stink about DQ9 back when it was announced.
Shouta said:Tossing it on a handheld (excluding PSP) and accepting it is ultimately settling for less. This is especially true for for games and series where the experience is everything about it rather than just the gameplay.
ethelred said:Really? Between the handheld Marios, Metroids, Kid Icarus, Fire Emblems, Zeldas, Dragon Quests, SRWs... how many have you played?
Except maybe Metroid, you say. What about excepting Zelda, too? After all, plenty of the intelligentsia here believes Link's Awakening to be the best of the 2D Zeldae, and now even more people are calling Phantom Hourglass one of the best in the series. Kid Icarus for GB was pretty well received, no? Plenty of people would tell you NSMB is one of the best in that series.
Aww, now see, you had me going there for a while. Here I was thinking you were speaking reasonable points -- it's true that Tales has consistently been relatively high in production values so far as audio and visuals go and that that's always been a notable element of the series. But then you brough up DQ under your banner of "games or series where the experience is everything about it rather than just the gameplay" and I realized no, Shouta's just pulling my leg.
I completely agree with this (well, I wouldn't really exclude PSP), I just no longer try to argue it at GAF.Shouta said:Tossing it on a handheld (excluding PSP) and accepting it is ultimately settling for less. This is especially true for for games and series where the experience is everything about it rather than just the gameplay. For Tales, the audio and visual presentation is a huge part of the experience and putting it on a handheld is limiting the possibilities for those areas. When you limit the audio and visual elements, you're gimping the experience. Would you see a version of an animated movie with a poor number of frames and poor voice acting or the same movie with lush animation and top-notch voice acting?
Kintaro said:Wow. You're pretty off here. Link to the Past says hello, and the majority of people have yet to play Phantom Hourglass, despite the good impressions. No one cares about Kid Icarus. And NSMB the best one in that series? What? Oi vey bro.
Kintaro said:You're putting words in his mouth. Especially where I bolded. I know you're quick to jump on anyone when DQ is concerned, but at least comment on what guy is actually saying.
Durante said:I completely agree with this (well, I wouldn't really exclude PSP), I just no longer try to argue it at GAF.
It would perhaps at first glance. But Disgaea and all the N1 games never were about awesome visual presentation -- D1 looks like a PS1 game. Shouta's argument specifically referenced that as a reason he dislikes the Tales DS move. What N1 games do have is a copious supply of funny (Japanese at least) voice acting, so you would still see me bitching if Disgaea 3 went DS exclusive. Also, it's quite a tenuous connection at best anyway, as Disgaea 3 doesn't look worse than any previous entry in the series -- in fact it looks better.ethelred said:This position seems a bit at odds with what you said about Disgaea 3. Wasn't there a whole lot of bitching at everyone for making a big deal out of the graphics, for questioning its platform choice, etc. and so on?
Even if a person thinks of Link to the Past as the series' best (which I do), it was brought to GBA, so the point would stand that it's entirely possible for a person's favorite in the series to be done on a portable. Honestly, any of the Zelda games other than Wind Waker and Twilight Princess could have been done on DS.Kintaro said:Wow. You're pretty off here. Link to the Past says hello, and the majority of people have yet to play Phantom Hourglass, despite the good impressions. No one cares about Kid Icarus. And NSMB the best one in that series? What? Oi vey bro.
*cues up Wikipedia*I hope the people bitching the others out have enjoyed Tales of Tactics, Tales of Breaker, Tales of Wahrheit, and Tales of Common for cell phones. If you aren't pimping those, you aren't a true fan!