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NHL October 2017 [OT]- Kneelin' and dealin'
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It's multijhonny, he doesn't need a context to post that
Harrison Bergeron
Member
So many shots for the Habs. It's like the English have oft said of their football team's play, "all fart and no poop."
There is nothing to look forward to watching or be hopeful of with that team. Carey Price will probably return to form somewhat, but the skaters in front of him are what they are.
There is nothing to look forward to watching or be hopeful of with that team. Carey Price will probably return to form somewhat, but the skaters in front of him are what they are.
Fate_Shirou
Member
i dont get the big fuss
it wasnt that weird
Creeps was like, we are in OT not community, cant do that stuff here pfft
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
You poor things are welcome to rejoin Preds-GAF for the time being. I'll even drop the anime requirement!
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to bed because there's a hockey game in 11 hours.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to bed because there's a hockey game in 11 hours.
"I told you we wouldn't keep shooting at 3%"
there Red just save that somewhere so you can pull that up when Pacioretty inevitably starts scoring a couple of goals and we drive for that 9th-10th place. We all know that's happening, we all understand we're not gonna stay at 3%, and that's not what we're debating, but that's the only way you can be right
because really that's all that matters to you, being right on minute details instead of ever admitting you're wrong or discussing anything related to the big picture
there Red just save that somewhere so you can pull that up when Pacioretty inevitably starts scoring a couple of goals and we drive for that 9th-10th place. We all know that's happening, we all understand we're not gonna stay at 3%, and that's not what we're debating, but that's the only way you can be right
because really that's all that matters to you, being right on minute details instead of ever admitting you're wrong or discussing anything related to the big picture
HabsQueso, is that you?
Fate_Shirou
Member
is this the new copypasta?
Harrison Bergeron
Member
Molson needs to get real. I have to believe a lot of the roster Bergevin has assembled has been to placate Molson's many and varied ideas regarding player personnel. I refuse to believe Bergevin is that dumb on his his own.
If Molson ever wakes up he'll realize he has to bring in a real president, and when that candidate pulls the Shanahan move telling him he'll only take the job if Molson stays the fuck out of his hair, Molson'll agree.
Montreal doesn't need a
Aquilini
Linden
Benning
puppet hierarchy situation either.
If Molson ever wakes up he'll realize he has to bring in a real president, and when that candidate pulls the Shanahan move telling him he'll only take the job if Molson stays the fuck out of his hair, Molson'll agree.
Montreal doesn't need a
Aquilini
Linden
Benning
puppet hierarchy situation either.
Fate_Shirou
Member
The biggest issue here, and one that most fail to realize is the Habs have no trading chips. They've drafted in the middle or late pack for the majority of the last decade. They traded Subban, Sergachev and have tried to traded Galchenyuk. Who do they include in a package for these grade A players everyone wants?
The amount you stretch this is so exhausting and is exactly why most people don't want to play in Montreal, because of fan reactions like yours. If you want to keep discussing it you can PM, otherwise there's not point in continuing this as you have your blatant agenda, and anything short of 16-0 cup run will change your mind.
Again with this fallacy that we (or I) expect to win every game and will complain otherwise. I predicted the cup, I defended the stupid Subban trade to an extent, I was excited about getting Drouin.
There's a time and place to call out a bad team playing badly. 1-7-1 with every player in the minus, a goalie with at 868 and under 2 goals scored per game is that time.
Add on top of that an arrogant ownership who upped the "plebian ticket" prices by 28% and will charge you $400 to print out season tickets on paper, and a managment who decided to shit on a player of 16 years because he "was asking for too much money", while also keeping 9M in the bank and operating as the 3rd least expansive team in the league
There is bullshit to call out and i'm sick of it
EDIT : and you JUST posted another issue, we don't have any trading chips anymore because we wasted all of them and we've been a "middle of the pack" team forever, add that on top of the pile of shit. Timmins had one shot at #3 overall and we got Galchenyuk who we can't even trade anymore. Even if you believe managment ruined him, AND YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, there is still something to be angry about
Unhandled Exception
Member
Barrie for Drouin
It's time to reunite the dynamic duo
It's time to reunite the dynamic duo
add on top of that now 25 years of failed "quinquennal plans" and a rotating cast of idiots
i'm fucking sick of being lied to by suits
I could pretty much go all night on "shit the Canadiens do that annoys me and built that anger up to this point"
and like, just last week I mentionned McCarron and you told me to wait because the plan with him wasn't over yet
like stop man let it go it's been 5 years and he's struggling in the AHL stop it's over you can let go
i'm fucking sick of being lied to by suits
I could pretty much go all night on "shit the Canadiens do that annoys me and built that anger up to this point"
and like, just last week I mentionned McCarron and you told me to wait because the plan with him wasn't over yet
like stop man let it go it's been 5 years and he's struggling in the AHL stop it's over you can let go
ElephantShell
Banned
This probably doesn't make a difference but uuuuh they're 1-6-1 not 1-7-1.
Its only starting bro. They should just sell the team to Quebec and buy an expansion.
Just to add to the drouin is their kessel trade thing... Leafs started the year of the Kessel trade 0-7-1
Took them 6 years to finally do something about it
eeeh but Kesslel was older and you traded him for prospects and picks, it was done to rebuild
we did the opposite, it was yet another move to win now-ish by destroying the future. Which i'm still all for, as long as you don't do it like that
https://twitter.com/felixpotvin/status/921595629431693312
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McCarron isn't a bust yet, although he hasn't been up to expectations just yet and do you realize how hard it is to draft in the late 20's and beyond? Another stat for you and unfortunately all Timmins has been dealt with are 2nd and later round picks. As much as you want to shit on AGally, he leads his draft class in points.
Kessel was 21 when we acquired him
We traded away a pick that we can safely say was Tyler Seguin... and Dougie Hamilton. Ours was a worse trade but that doesn't make the habs trade any better
The main difference between the Habs of now and the Leafs of then (post Phaneuf trade) is Price could turn it around.
SmackCrackleNPop
Member
I want to see this JPG, MultiJhonny posted. PM me!
Also, Ducks win. Thats cool I guess.
Also, Ducks win. Thats cool I guess.
yes it's hard to draft in the lat 20's, because when you draft in the late 20's you're supposed to be a contender. We arguably contended once or twice but sadly we failed as many teams do! Except we paid the big price to contend, we wasted our first and second picks, we wasted Subban, etc. Now we enter the painful post-cup-window era where we have no future and bad contracts, which leads to the rebuild. You're still stuck in the cup-window era while some of us want the fire sale rebuild instead of the agony, even more so now that our direct competitors managed to do it. I'd rather be the fire sale leafs who only agonized for 2-3 years once they decided to do it (before that, they weren't trying, specifically talking about when they started the real process with the shanaplan) than being the Red Wings, still stuck in 2008
There is always the risk you end up becoming Edmonton, though. Though they royally sucked drafting beyond the first round and a lot of their first overall picks were disappointments.
It's a risky thing to do. But there's more recent evidence of it working (Pittsburgh, Chicago, LA, Toronto) than it not working (Edmonton, Phoenix, Colorado)
I shouldn't even really suggest Colorado because Stastny and ROR is what doomed their build.
and idk how I feel about Arizona too, did they ever even try? Edmonton failed 100%
Calamari41
41 > 38
I got you, dawg
Unhandled Exception
Member
Zadorov is a stud. JT Compher has shown a lot of promise thus far. AJ Greer had a fantastic camp that ended in a concussion.
I'd do the O'Reilly trade over again without question. He still isn't worth the money he got paid. What really fucked us regarding O'Reilly was Jay Feaster forcing us to match that goddamn offer.
going to bed but the short version is simple :
do we have a team that can win the cup now, or next year?
if not, do we have the assets necessary to get what we need to win the cup in the forseeable future?
if not you have failed, agonizing and fighting against it to keep the agony going is useless and actually insulting to your fans, hit the reset button and try again
do we have a team that can win the cup now, or next year?
if not, do we have the assets necessary to get what we need to win the cup in the forseeable future?
if not you have failed, agonizing and fighting against it to keep the agony going is useless and actually insulting to your fans, hit the reset button and try again
MDZ has been on the ice for 66% of our goals against.
He's also scored what, two own goals? Or just one?
Unhandled Exception
Member
When you've got fans using analytics as a security blanket in the face of getting decimated by every team you've faced (including a squad of nothing but 3rd liners + Perry) I think it's fairly obvious why a rebuild is going to be a painfully slow process for Montreal. Failure is difficult to admit in any circumstance in this league, let alone for a franchise and a fanbase with so much history and pressure. Those things bog everything down, they make the winning feel sweeter but they make real change take a lot longer. It'll happen though, it has to happen. The longer this goes on the fewer seats will sell.
Well... it's more like the most critical part of a team is the C position. They were both your best defensive Cs. It's almost like removing Matthews and Kadri from the Leafs and hoping Nylander and Marner could fill the void. As good as the players you got back are, they still don't replace what you lost. It's also likely a big reason the Avs do NOT want to move Duchene because then they are really screwed.
ROR is worth $6-$6.5, better to overpay the mil than wallow in the lottery
I still wish the Avs didn't match just so the Flames would have looked like complete morons, though.
Lol it was 2.
Unhandled Exception
Member
Stastny seemed very disinterested in signing with us after Duchene and O'Reilly showed up and played the way they played. I don't think there was much we could've done short of overpaying him greatly to keep him here.
As far as O'Reilly goes I just can't see that trade as a bad one given the circumstance. At the time we needed defense badly and we got a piece for our future out of it. If Grigorenko hadn't been so badly mismanaged before we even had the chance to also badly mismanage him, who knows what that trade would really look like now.
All that said, I do wish it would've been Duchene in that situation rather than O'Reilly. We ended up with the streaky pouty basket case.
As far as O'Reilly goes I just can't see that trade as a bad one given the circumstance. At the time we needed defense badly and we got a piece for our future out of it. If Grigorenko hadn't been so badly mismanaged before we even had the chance to also badly mismanage him, who knows what that trade would really look like now.
All that said, I do wish it would've been Duchene in that situation rather than O'Reilly. We ended up with the streaky pouty basket case.
Did... did you just call your fellow duck friend a dog?
Calamari41
41 > 38
It's a species of duck that Walt bred to populate Disneyland, look it up
What about pawgs?
It was the gif of the popsicle anime thing right?
I met a habs fan today when I was out with my daughter. He was wearing a Price jersey. I asked him if hes been watching this season and he replied with yes unfortunately. Told him I was a leafs fan and he said we looked good. His wife started giving him shit for always talking hockey and I apologised. She said typical Canadian always apologising.
Anyways we talked about the teams a little bit. He seemed pretty down on their immediate future. He asked why I wasnt giving him shit lol. I told him I actually feel bad for him, having recently gone through similar with my Leafs
It was cool. Dont see a lot of hockey fans in Australia out and about. My daughter was embarrassed slightly. And his wife seemed annoyed at first but she was nice in the end.
This was before the game. It was about 12 pm here. So actually the game would have been just starting. He predicted the ducks would destroy them. I said Montreal has to be desperately trying to win so I think theyll take it. Boy was I wrong. I saw the score and felt bad
Then I came home and read the last few pages. And felt much better.
Anyways we talked about the teams a little bit. He seemed pretty down on their immediate future. He asked why I wasnt giving him shit lol. I told him I actually feel bad for him, having recently gone through similar with my Leafs
It was cool. Dont see a lot of hockey fans in Australia out and about. My daughter was embarrassed slightly. And his wife seemed annoyed at first but she was nice in the end.
This was before the game. It was about 12 pm here. So actually the game would have been just starting. He predicted the ducks would destroy them. I said Montreal has to be desperately trying to win so I think theyll take it. Boy was I wrong. I saw the score and felt bad
Then I came home and read the last few pages. And felt much better.
I met a habs fan today when I was out with my daughter. He was wearing a Price jersey. I asked him if hes been watching this season and he replied with yes unfortunately. Told him I was a leafs fan and he said we looked good. His wife started giving him shit for always talking hockey and I apologised. She said typical Canadian always apologising.
Anyways we talked about the teams a little bit. He seemed pretty down on their immediate future. He asked why I wasnt giving him shit lol. I told him I actually feel bad for him, having recently gone through similar with my Leafs
It was cool. Dont see a lot of hockey fans in Australia out and about. My daughter was embarrassed slightly. And his wife seemed annoyed at first but she was nice in the end.
This was before the game. It was about 12 pm here. So actually the game would have been just starting. He predicted the ducks would destroy them. I said Montreal has to be desperately trying to win so I think theyll take it. Boy was I wrong. I saw the score and felt bad
Then I came home and read the last few pages. And felt much better.
at which part of the story did you kill the deadly spiders and snakes? before or after you met the Habs fans?
Oh Ive killed many many spiders. Ive only had two encounters with snakes though. One was fairly poisonous.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Just saw the low lights...ouch.....Price got lit up...
The fancy stats say Mtl should bounce back, and I don't think they'll pull an Avs this season. They should come back and win a few games though at the rate they're going...it doesn't look good right now. Their shooting percentage is low, and some bounces will inevitably go their way, but I haven't looked into the actual shot qualities yet.
The fancy stats say Mtl should bounce back, and I don't think they'll pull an Avs this season. They should come back and win a few games though at the rate they're going...it doesn't look good right now. Their shooting percentage is low, and some bounces will inevitably go their way, but I haven't looked into the actual shot qualities yet.
