Justin Bailey
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You don't need to be a hardcore fan to enjoy it. It's good, just enjoy the movie for what it is - a fun adventure flick.Jinfash said:
Also, watch Last Crusade damnit.
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Official Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Rottenwatch/Reviews
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Also, watch Last Crusade damnit.
Justin Bailey
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Well, Raiders and Last Crusade are in different categories than this movie. If you liked Raiders you're bound to like Last Crusade (my personal favorite).Jinfash said:
Fix The Scientist
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Does anyone know how Sean Connery would have fit into the story if he had chosen to take part? Apparently he only a minor role which would have disappointed some fans as he didnt "come along for the adventure" or something.
The Blue Jihad
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Justin Bailey said:
But it's neither fun nor adventurous.
Justin Bailey
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Uh oh, the nerd-rage stampede is coming. . .
The Blue Jihad
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Justin Bailey said:
I'm just saying, there are far, far better "fun adventure movies" out there to see for 10 bucks a ticket.
Justin Bailey
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Ok, that's nice that you think that. I think its a good movie though.The Blue Jihad said:
The Blue Jihad
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Justin Bailey said:
But to recommend that others see it does them a disservice.
Justin Bailey
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I'm not sure if you're really this dense or if you're being antagonistic on purpose, but if I think it's a good movie then it's not really a disservice for me to recommend it. To you, since you think it's a bad movie, it's a disservice to recommend. Do you understand the difference between these two points of view?The Blue Jihad said:
Gamer @ Heart
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OMG. OMG. I know this is off topic but i just read it in a closed read..... crushed got perma banned? Why? Where? link?
Also, i enjoyed the movie. Watching the old ones on tv left a bad taste in my mouth. I think i exageratte how much i actually enjoyed each movie between my viewings of them.
Also, i enjoyed the movie. Watching the old ones on tv left a bad taste in my mouth. I think i exageratte how much i actually enjoyed each movie between my viewings of them.
Well, the leaked Darabont script worked Connery in at an earlier part of the film in helping to cover for his son who would have been on the run from the government (who thought he was a commie sympathizer). Sallah was even in the script at one point.Fix The Scientist said:
In the current film, though, I have no idea how they could have put him into it since the Red Scare witch hunt by the government wasn't as big a part as it was in Darabont's take. IIRC, at one point they had something for Connery until he said that he was having too much fun in retirement.
KeeSomething
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I saw Crystal Skull last night, and I enjoyed it for what it was--a fun adventure movie. While I still think the first and 3rd films are far better, I found 4 to be at least better than the Temple of Doom. The action scenes were just a lot of fun to watch, and I loved the little Sean Connery cameo.
The Blue Jihad
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Justin Bailey said:
Sorry, dude, but you're recommending a lousy movie no matter how you try to spin "it's my opinion." That's the bottom line. As an "adventure" movie, Crystal Skull was barely treading water. It's a waste of a movie, and a waste of people's time.
Tyrone Slothrop
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Jinfash said:
i think crystal skull in and of itself was sort of a tribute to the last 3 films, so you probably won't enjoy it as much, tbh. there were a lot of nods to the last crusade, too.
Jinfash
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Tyrone Slothrop said:
i see, well i was expecting something of the sort i won't deny that.
so that i'm clear i'm just itching for some nicely directed action sequences that screams high-production values (not looking for a good story) do you think this indy will offer me that?
The Blue Jihad
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Jinfash said:
Honestly, the action sequences in Crystal Skull aren't terribly exciting. They feel by-the-numbers, and lack the Spielberg magic we had in previous Indy movies, in Jurassic Park 1, in War of the Worlds, etc. In terms of high-production values, eeeegh. It all looks very artificial. Plastic, almost. The mushroom cloud is probably the best-looking special effect in the movie.
Tyrone Slothrop
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Jinfash said:
definitely (IMO)
Justin Bailey
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*smacks forehead*The Blue Jihad said:
The Blue Jihad
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Justin Bailey said:
Keep doing that. In fact, start doing it harder and harder. I'll help you out by telling you that you have no taste.
Justin Bailey
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Oh no. How dare you insult my movie taste. What am I going to do now.The Blue Jihad said:Keep doing that. In fact, start doing it harder and harder. I'll help you out by telling you that you have no taste.
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Justin Bailey said:
I'd recommend getting better taste in movies, starting with accepting how terrible Crystal Skull actually is.
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I'll let you know when I care what your opinion is.The Blue Jihad said:
Xdrive05
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Such a polarizing movie, even within my own opinion. Some parts are completely fantastic while others are complete bullshit, so much so that it kind of balances out to be mediocre for an Indy flick, better than ToD but not by much.
I do think, however, that Lucas was definitely the weaker link. I thought the directing (cinematography at least) was very well done.
I do think, however, that Lucas was definitely the weaker link. I thought the directing (cinematography at least) was very well done.
The Blue Jihad
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Justin Bailey said:
Frankly, I don't give two shits about you or your cute little snappy replies here. What fascinates me is how low your standards obviously are if you genuinely enjoyed that piece of shit movie. lol
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You're enjoying all of this attention aren't you?The Blue Jihad said:
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Justin Bailey said:
Attention? You mean you were actually giving me some sort of consideration? News to me, honestly. All this time I thought you were just trying to play one of those silly little internet sarcastic things most people try to do around here.
Count Dookkake
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I have seen the movie three times, first for free.
It gets better with each viewing. It is clearly better than Last Crusade.
It gets better with each viewing. It is clearly better than Last Crusade.
El Pescado
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Count Dookkake said:
Fixed.
I seriously don't understand the hate...
brandonh83
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El Pescado said:Fixed.
I seriously don't understand the hate...
It's probably my second favorite Indy flick, I can take it over Temple of Doom and Crusade, but Raiders is just too good. First time I saw it, I said I liked it as much as Raiders, but nah. However, it's my second favorite out of four movies that I really like and that ain't bad, Spielberg, ain't bad at all.
The Lamonster
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I really enjoyed it as well. Interesting to see the recent lack of haters...
Count Dookkake
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The Lamonster said:
I was one of the first people here to see it. I knew most people here would hate it. Not sure how many pages back I made that prediction.
Jinfash said:
Buy a ticket for Indy and sneak into Hulk.
I went to see this on Saturday at 7 pm. I haven't seen it yet, and pretty much avoided all spoilers. The reason I waited so long was to avoid the kids.
Cue forward 45 min to my gf and I getting our money back. Some stupid fucking kids wouldn't stop chattering, despite my nearly constant *shooshing* and shooting evil glares back at their mother. We had the manager pull the mom out of the theater to scold her, but the damage was done and the movie was ruined.
The kid at a certain part even screamed out "You can close your eyes here cause
That's the first time I've ever left a theater. I've never been so mad at some stupid fucking kids. They obviously had seen the movie before, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for ruining perhaps the last chance I'll see Indiana Jones in the theater.
Cue forward 45 min to my gf and I getting our money back. Some stupid fucking kids wouldn't stop chattering, despite my nearly constant *shooshing* and shooting evil glares back at their mother. We had the manager pull the mom out of the theater to scold her, but the damage was done and the movie was ruined.
The kid at a certain part even screamed out "You can close your eyes here cause
there's a mummy coming up!
That's the first time I've ever left a theater. I've never been so mad at some stupid fucking kids. They obviously had seen the movie before, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for ruining perhaps the last chance I'll see Indiana Jones in the theater.
I'll try and remember that, I got behind early that's why Indy had to wait so long.
I think we might go to the drive-in and see it and Wall-E in a double screening instead.
Anyway, these weren't 'casual talkers,' they were children. Their mother should have had the good sense to shut them up. The manager should have had the good sense to ask them to leave. I hope she had to refund more than our tickets, or else no one learned a lesson.
Except for me. It's easier to watch this damn stuff at home, and cheaper. Perhaps I'll just start waiting for Blu like most of my other friends.
I think we might go to the drive-in and see it and Wall-E in a double screening instead.
Anyway, these weren't 'casual talkers,' they were children. Their mother should have had the good sense to shut them up. The manager should have had the good sense to ask them to leave. I hope she had to refund more than our tickets, or else no one learned a lesson.
Except for me. It's easier to watch this damn stuff at home, and cheaper. Perhaps I'll just start waiting for Blu like most of my other friends.
JoshuaJSlone
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While I'm more of a home movie guy, too, waiting specifically for Blu on something from Lucasfilm might require patience, considering how long it took for them to even get on board DVD.DJ_Tet said:
DJ_Tet said:
I think many moms wait to take their chatty kids to movies when the audience will be significantly thinner. It's considerate in a kinda backwards way.
Don't go expecting the Wall-E audience to be silent, though. I saw the movie opening night and there were tons of kids. You just can't keep them quiet.
Flynn said:
I saw Speed Racer at a matinee. I don't want my rant to come off like I'm some old douchebag who can't tolerate kids or audience participation. This wasn't that. It was flat out conversation, shouting so her friend could hear her OVER the movie, and constant chattering for the 45 min which I could stomach it.
If a mom was trying to be considerate, she would have noticed the several audience members giving her death-glares, shooshing, and the one who actually came up to her and had a conversation.
I was fuming and I should have given her a piece of my mind when she got pulled out of the theater.
PhoenixDark
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Saw the movie early last month. I don't see how anyone could possibly justify the existence of that movie. Seriously. Was that all a joke? Perhaps the worst written film I've seen since Attack of the Clones.
The movie starts off well enough with the little drag race. Very nice camera work there (and throughout the film actually) but I couldn't help but notice the odd coloring. It seemed to work during that first feel-good-50s scene but once the action started it just looked out of place. Things were just too shiny.
Indy's introduction was so quick and non climatic I was simply shocked. And on a side note, how the fuck does a small group of Russian soldiers
That was perhaps the first of many shaking-my-head moments in this movie. That entire warehouse scene was terrible. From the ridiculous lines to the stupid moments (like the magnetic cloud of bullets) I couldn't believe what I was seeing or hearing. And to top things off the whole atomic bomb thing...wow. What the fuck was that? I'm baffled as to how Spielberg or anyone else could possibly think this script was worth using.
Overall the first 3/4s of the movie seemed so damn disjointed and poorly planned. Mutt's intro was pretty bad as well, and once again felt rushed. The previous three Indy films all did a great job with the scenes that explain the mulligan yet here it was bogged down by horrible acting by Shia and a rather bored Ford, who seemed like he slept walked through most of the movie.
I remember hearing that the film wouldn't have any CG, and if I wasn't tired I'd dig up those Manabyte/Cheebs posts trying to convince people that everything in the first trailer was real (LOL). Actually it's rather prominent and obvious in many scenes. Most of the action scenes fall flat regardless of whether they feature CG or not though, especially the two scenes involving crazy looking savage people. Sigh. Outside of the atomic bomb shit the most over the top part is probably the "three drop" water ride. It manages to look worse than the one in Temple of Doom. In fact, the entire movie reminded me of ToD in terms of being over the top in every aspect to distract you from how empty the movie is.
I haven't even discussed the plot, which was too stupid to mention. Overall I thought this was 30 minutes of interesting film mixed into an hour and a half of stupidity. I actually liked the race to the temple, as well as the stuff that happens in the temple
. Temple of Doom is better. At least it had Short Round and a particularly badass Indy. I went in expecting the film to at least top ToD. That expectation went out the window 10 minutes into the movie, from Blanchett's laughably hammy performance to this:
or whatever they said. My jaw fell open
Perhaps the main reason KOTCS strikes me as the inferior Jones movie is because it was in development/consideration for so long. 20 years later this is the best they could come up with? This was the script that Spielberg/Ford thought was worth renewing the franchise over? I usually don't hate on Lucas but I cannot fathom how he could think this was a good script. I didn't like the story but it was definitely interesting, and could have been done well; the whole crystal skull myth should have been a good foundation.
I think Spielberg is a great director who has flaws as most directors do. As I said, there are some very nice shots throughout the movie, and there's no denying he's still talented. But to me this is an issue of JUDGMENT. Spielberg had a front row seat to Lucas' fuck up of the Star Wars franchise. I don't understand why he'd willingly go along with fucking up Indy. It's not the greatest trilogy ever, but Raiders is definitely a classic movie and Last Crusade is great as well (and I'd imagine it'll mean more to people as they grow older). This sequel wasn't needed AT ALL. Last Crusade essentially did everything it tried to do.
The movie starts off well enough with the little drag race. Very nice camera work there (and throughout the film actually) but I couldn't help but notice the odd coloring. It seemed to work during that first feel-good-50s scene but once the action started it just looked out of place. Things were just too shiny.
Indy's introduction was so quick and non climatic I was simply shocked. And on a side note, how the fuck does a small group of Russian soldiers
infiltrate the Fort Knox of top secret US artifacts?
Overall the first 3/4s of the movie seemed so damn disjointed and poorly planned. Mutt's intro was pretty bad as well, and once again felt rushed. The previous three Indy films all did a great job with the scenes that explain the mulligan yet here it was bogged down by horrible acting by Shia and a rather bored Ford, who seemed like he slept walked through most of the movie.
I remember hearing that the film wouldn't have any CG, and if I wasn't tired I'd dig up those Manabyte/Cheebs posts trying to convince people that everything in the first trailer was real (LOL). Actually it's rather prominent and obvious in many scenes. Most of the action scenes fall flat regardless of whether they feature CG or not though, especially the two scenes involving crazy looking savage people. Sigh. Outside of the atomic bomb shit the most over the top part is probably the "three drop" water ride. It manages to look worse than the one in Temple of Doom. In fact, the entire movie reminded me of ToD in terms of being over the top in every aspect to distract you from how empty the movie is.
I haven't even discussed the plot, which was too stupid to mention. Overall I thought this was 30 minutes of interesting film mixed into an hour and a half of stupidity. I actually liked the race to the temple, as well as the stuff that happens in the temple
(except the alien/spaceship fiasco, which I certainly didn't expect)
Mac: Sorry Jonesy, I'm in it for the money
Indy: I thought we were friends!
Indy: I thought we were friends!
or whatever they said. My jaw fell open
Perhaps the main reason KOTCS strikes me as the inferior Jones movie is because it was in development/consideration for so long. 20 years later this is the best they could come up with? This was the script that Spielberg/Ford thought was worth renewing the franchise over? I usually don't hate on Lucas but I cannot fathom how he could think this was a good script. I didn't like the story but it was definitely interesting, and could have been done well; the whole crystal skull myth should have been a good foundation.
I think Spielberg is a great director who has flaws as most directors do. As I said, there are some very nice shots throughout the movie, and there's no denying he's still talented. But to me this is an issue of JUDGMENT. Spielberg had a front row seat to Lucas' fuck up of the Star Wars franchise. I don't understand why he'd willingly go along with fucking up Indy. It's not the greatest trilogy ever, but Raiders is definitely a classic movie and Last Crusade is great as well (and I'd imagine it'll mean more to people as they grow older). This sequel wasn't needed AT ALL. Last Crusade essentially did everything it tried to do.
PhoenixDark said:
I pretty much agree with all of your points except for the ones about Harrison Ford sleepwalking through the movie.
In all honesty, I thought he was the only one acting like he really gave a shit about the whole thing. He seemed to be the only one giving much of an effort for the whole project. He worked out for months before shooting and looked pretty damn buff for a guy in his 60's. He brought a lot of energy to an extremely poor script and screenplay. He made the movie watchable for me, but the end result was only watchable once. I'll be skipping the DVD/Blu-Ray release for this one as its not worthy to be sitting on the same shelf as the other three.
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Looks like he got it whether he wanted them or not.Amir0x said:
Count Dookkake
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I think I will see this once more before it leaves theaters. Can't wait for the DVD.
There will be a sequel, right?
There will be a sequel, right?
Spectral Glider
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Count Dookkake said:
Well, seeing as it's about to hit, or maybe already has, $300 million, I'm guessing there will be another one.
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