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Official March NPD Thread (The story? PS3 = weak, SW sales = insane)
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Yeah, because we all know how many regular gamers out there keep up on the latest announcements. I personally believe the announcement accounted for a small difference in the overall numbers.Odysseus said:
Even if people were considering buying a 360, how many of them do you really believe are gonna "wait it out" for the more expensive version of the system, that only offers a couple marginal upgrades?
grandjedi6
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Oh dear god Pokemon comes out next month
::Looks at DS Hardware and Spectrobes sales::
....shudders
::Looks at DS Hardware and Spectrobes sales::
....shudders
Nameless
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Y2Kevbug11 said:
Only 1k from 200k isn't that bad, it WAS March. ANd unlike the Wii most people who wanted a 360 could actually find one over the holidays. Nothing huge came out either. I mean you had GRAW at the beginning of the month and GTH at the end, but neither of those are really system sellers. 200k is a solid number all things considered.
Segata Sanshiro
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pilonv1 said:
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyoink.
Nameless
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Y2Kevbug11 said:
Only 1k from 200k isn't that bad, it WAS March. ANd unlike the Wii most people who wanted a 360 could actually find one over the holidays. Nothing huge came out either. I mean you had GRAW at the beginning of the month and GTH at the end, but neither of those are really system sellers. 200k is a solid number all things considered.
sonycowboy
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I know the focus is on HW numbers, and to a great extent, rightfully so, but I think it's worthwhile to throw this perspective in here.
1) HW sales are up 69% vs last year, and almost double on the console side. They are higher this March than anytime in the history of the industry. $599, $399, $250 and DS, PSP, & PS2 continue to soak up record amounts of $$$$. There is a concept of conservation of energy that applies here. There is a finite amount of money out there and folks are preferring to spread it around (and away from the PS3), vs previous generations.
2) SW sales are insane as well.
Here's the breakdown vs last year.
March 2006 March 2007 CHG
Video Games $818M $1.1B 33%
Video Games Hardware $219M $370M 69%
Console Hardware $133M $257M 93%
Portable Game Hardware $85M $114M 33%
Video Games Software $501M $574M 15%
Console Software $391M $437M 12%
Portable Game Software $110M $137M 25%
Video Game Accessories $98M $145M 48%
1) HW sales are up 69% vs last year, and almost double on the console side. They are higher this March than anytime in the history of the industry. $599, $399, $250 and DS, PSP, & PS2 continue to soak up record amounts of $$$$. There is a concept of conservation of energy that applies here. There is a finite amount of money out there and folks are preferring to spread it around (and away from the PS3), vs previous generations.
2) SW sales are insane as well.
Here's the breakdown vs last year.
March 2006 March 2007 CHG
Video Games $818M $1.1B 33%
Video Games Hardware $219M $370M 69%
Console Hardware $133M $257M 93%
Portable Game Hardware $85M $114M 33%
Video Games Software $501M $574M 15%
Console Software $391M $437M 12%
Portable Game Software $110M $137M 25%
Video Game Accessories $98M $145M 48%
plagiarize
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on weekly sales yes, but march is traditionally slower as you can see from most of the other consoles sales... so a slight increase is actually a bit healthier than it looks on the surface.DeaconKnowledge said:
of course, that just puts the ps3 on the course to not be losing ground on the 360, if they can keep it up.
until then, the gap continues to widen.
The only number that's surprising is the Wii number (supply issue).
The 360 and the PS3 are both way too expensive for the casual consumer who just wants to have fun. Without a price drop, PS3 sales will continue to be mediocre, same with the 360 to a much lesser extent (Halo 3 will spike those sales up MASSIVELY, quote me on it).
I doubt the Elite announcement did much to hurt 360 sales. The 360 is starting to run out of people buying it at $400. I don't think that many people are not picking up a 360 now to pick up a $480 system. Without the announcement, you may have seen 10K more for the 360 - pretty insignificant.
I wonder what the tie-in ratio is for the PS3. The 360's is enormous, so the HW sales don't look quite as bad.
The 360 and the PS3 are both way too expensive for the casual consumer who just wants to have fun. Without a price drop, PS3 sales will continue to be mediocre, same with the 360 to a much lesser extent (Halo 3 will spike those sales up MASSIVELY, quote me on it).
I doubt the Elite announcement did much to hurt 360 sales. The 360 is starting to run out of people buying it at $400. I don't think that many people are not picking up a 360 now to pick up a $480 system. Without the announcement, you may have seen 10K more for the 360 - pretty insignificant.
I wonder what the tie-in ratio is for the PS3. The 360's is enormous, so the HW sales don't look quite as bad.
Count Dookkake
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UncleGuito
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THIS IS MADNESS
Nice 360 software sales
Hitler Stole My Potato
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291k for a $150 game and this is just tracking a few days of sale.....that's crazy.
VultureDude
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wow, the 360 is a top ten GIANT
dirtmonkey37
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PS3 numbers are pretty much expected. What do you expect from a $600 machine? Don't tell me "OMG LOLZ 300K a month, duh!"
360 numbers are initially surprising, but after some thought, you'll see that they're predicatable as well. Elite is announced so people wait. Easy as that. Especially with stores advertising the Elite... Some people don't even know that it's going to cost them $480.
Wii numbers, well, they're not bad (better than the other two). I would say solid, if not spectacular.
Next month should see a surge in sales.
I'm surprised at the GHII numbers for the 360. When did they cap March NPD? April 6th?
GRAW is similarly surprising. I thought it would do about 200K, but apparently...it did twice that.
360 numbers are initially surprising, but after some thought, you'll see that they're predicatable as well. Elite is announced so people wait. Easy as that. Especially with stores advertising the Elite... Some people don't even know that it's going to cost them $480.
Wii numbers, well, they're not bad (better than the other two). I would say solid, if not spectacular.
Next month should see a surge in sales.I'm surprised at the GHII numbers for the 360. When did they cap March NPD? April 6th?
GRAW is similarly surprising. I thought it would do about 200K, but apparently...it did twice that.
Souldriver
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God damned, I want to see what sales the Wii could really reach if there weren't shortages.
And does anybody know how many DS'es Nintendo has shipped for the Pokébomb?
Overal pretty low sales, except for the DS (on fire!) and the PS2 that just keeps on going.
And does anybody know how many DS'es Nintendo has shipped for the Pokébomb?
Overal pretty low sales, except for the DS (on fire!) and the PS2 that just keeps on going.
speculawyer
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Gekkonidae
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There's actually nothing there that would really make GAF explode. Everything's mostly expected.
Now, if Wii takes off in April, that will be an epic NPD thread.
Now, if Wii takes off in April, that will be an epic NPD thread.
gregor7777
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QVT said:
Numbers for Home and LBP?
Parl said:
Needs to be quoted for the idiots who are saying PS3 sales are up. If you're gonna try and spin, at least learn the facts so you spin something that doesn't make you look like an idiot.
360 down because of Elite, price cut will supercharge it. Who says it needs to sell as much as PS2 when its software attach is astronomical?
Count Dookkake
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darthmario said:I can't resist . . . seeing how the grudge match turned out.
Nicely done, sir.
I think I'd rather see that horse-face, Sarah Jessica Parker. Tough call.
Why are people compensating for the Elite? Announced later in the month and it isn't like most gamers are immediately up on this news.
Unless the sell-through base is still the hardcore, in which case it's still a large problem as that well has got to dry up soon.
Unless the sell-through base is still the hardcore, in which case it's still a large problem as that well has got to dry up soon.
VultureDude
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heh, lackluster sales numbers for Wii software despite a barrage of third party support in March...
what does it mean?
what does it mean?
BrodiemanTTR
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The real story here for me is Spectrobes. Third party DS games selling all over the world. WHAT THE **** IS HAPPENING GAF.
How is GH2 not a system seller? It will sell well above million copies just in the US when it's all said and done. You can argue that GRAW2 is a big game also and should sell over a million copies world wide. Games are there for 360 and all it needs is a price cut. PS3 on the other hand will need something to jump start it's sales. One or two games or even a $100 price cut will not do anything for that system.Nameless said:
Joe Molotov
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Sometimes the classics are the best.
gregor7777
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It took me looking over the list twice to fully appreciate how out of this world that DS number is. I was one.
Version 3.0
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Epigamic said:
Wow. Go GAF!