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Overwatch |OT10| That'll do pig, that'll do

maomaoIYP

Member
Anyone who plays PS4 in the Asia region have issues with servers? I just moved here and I've got 16ms ping on a 100 meg connection but the game is hanging when it connects to a game and I'm getting a lot of lag. Got kicked from my last qp game due to bad connection.

You mean today or just in general?
I usually get 5ms ping with no issues. The last time I had issues were in S4 right after a major patch but it got rectified in a few days.
 
Said fuck and just instalocked soldier or Zen if he was taken. Now I'm only 107sr from plat.

No more flexing from me this season. Sucks to not give a fuck about the team but, gotta do what ya gotta do.
 

Cappa

Banned
I have 100 down 100 up, it's alright I guess? I'm sure the guys in the US that have google fibre or something would have much better speeds.

internet in the US is shit.... most people have 50mpbs or less... those that have 100mps+ usually pay hundreds of dollars.

Internet infrastrutcure in the US is generally shit no matter where you live. For less than the price I was paying for just CELLPHONE in the US. I am paying the equivalent of $80 USD for 10gb, unlimited texts and calls mobile, unlimited calls landline, 150mpbs down and up internet, tv + soccer(futbol), Formula 1, Moto GP, HBO(2 years free), Netflix(1 year free).

In the US, these type of packages dont exist, at least not for the price I am paying here in Spain lol

I get about 30-40ms when I play in european servers(im guessing theyre probably located in the UK?) and about 120-130ms when I play with the americans.. which isnt great but certainly not unplayable.
 

LiK

Member
43 ms or less here with cable on American servers. I use wired as well. Played with some British buddies and it was 140 ms yesterday.
 

Unit 33

Member
Geez, I have to get a mic.

Playing PS4 competitive is like a twisted gamble at the moment.
Either there's no communication, and the team is a bunch of DPS folk flailing around, or there's at least one guy on mic acting as a coordinator.
Even if my team loses, I find it far less frustrating when there was some kind of cohesion going on.
 
I know Mei's voice line "You have to let it go." is replaced with "You have to let it snow." if the "Mei-rry" skin is equipped, but aside from the 2017 Summer Games skins (Soldier 76 with his Grillmaster 76 skin says "Smells like freedom." instead of "Smells like victory."), I don't know if any of the others follow suit.

I only noticed with the new Soldier victory change, surely are others.


As for ping, average 20-30Mbps down, 6-10 up, 30ms ping on average in UK.

100ms when play with a US east coast friend.
 
Being a team player in solo q just doesn't pan out. You can flex pick all day long, but in the end your SR just doesn't go up at all.

All of the hanzo and junk comps make sure of it.
 

LiK

Member
Solo q is trash. You should try a duo queue at least with someone who plays mains that compliment your own. I always had the best success with that.
 
Pretty much this. Only one that might be changed is doomfist but its too early yet. He's bordering broken but have to wait and see.

I have come around on the idea that Doomfist isn't necessarily too powerful on his own, but his power level in context of the current meta is quite high. If Lunatic Hai of all teams doesn't really know how to counter him in the Winston-D.Va-Pharah-Doomfist comp I don't know who can.

Maybe things will change with the new balance changes to him and the other heroes, it's still pretty early to determine what the meta is yet.
 

Anne

Member
busted assumes they are characters that need to be looked at balance wise?

Basically. Tracer is the only one that doesn't need much. I'd give her a minor tap to pulse charge rate at this point. If she still ends up busted post dive and post a nerf like that then maybe slow down blink charge by a bit? I doubt it'll come to that though.

Maybe things will change with the new balance changes to him and the other heroes, it's still pretty early to determine what the meta is yet.

IMO meta is mostly the same except Doomfist reinforces some shit. Like, there's just no getting around the fact Wisnton/D.Va are broke on a level that defines the game.
 

pizzacat

Banned
Basically. Tracer is the only one that doesn't need much. I'd give her a minor tap to pulse charge rate at this point. If she still ends up busted post dive and post a nerf like that then maybe slow down blink charge by a bit? I doubt it'll come to that though.

REEEEE last time i mentioned tracer needed some looking at i got scolded like the platchat i am

all i want is something as small as soldiers dmg nerf
 

Anne

Member
REEEEE last time i mentioned tracer needed some looking at i got scolded like the platchat i am

all i want is something as small as soldiers dmg nerf

I mean, it's really not like she's busted to the point where she needs a significant nerf, and she kinda teeters around meta shit and being just slightly ridiculous. Damage nerf is def not something I would put on the table for her, nerfing that would ruin quite a bit of her and really punish the people with the mechanics to make her work. Tweaking something around pulse bomb is easy and won't hurt her that much. Small blink nerfs are kinda meh too but whatever.

The really hard thing about balancing Tracer is the mechanics needed to push her into busted territory is beyond most players, even GMs. Shit's hard. You can make her like Strong tier, but busted is not easy. It's nice having a character that actually rewards you like that for putting in the effort. When I played Tracer constantly and was destroying in in-house, my arms would legit get sore from flinging my mouse around for hours ;~;
 

LiK

Member
I mean, it's really not like she's busted to the point where she needs a significant nerf, and she kinda teeters around meta shit and being just slightly ridiculous. Damage nerf is def not something I would put on the table for her, nerfing that would ruin quite a bit of her and really punish the people with the mechanics to make her work. Tweaking something around pulse bomb is easy and won't hurt her that much. Small blink nerfs are kinda meh too but whatever.

The really hard thing about balancing Tracer is the mechanics needed to push her into busted territory is beyond most players, even GMs. Shit's hard. You can make her like Strong tier, but busted is not easy. It's nice having a character that actually rewards you like that for putting in the effort. When I played Tracer constantly and was destroying in in-house, my arms would legit get sore from flinging my mouse around for hours ;~;

Anne getting old.
 
Basically. Tracer is the only one that doesn't need much. I'd give her a minor tap to pulse charge rate at this point. If she still ends up busted post dive and post a nerf like that then maybe slow down blink charge by a bit? I doubt it'll come to that though.



IMO meta is mostly the same except Doomfist reinforces some shit. Like, there's just no getting around the fact Wisnton/D.Va are broke on a level that defines the game.

I think the thing to change with Tracer is a slight nerf to her damage. I think she is very strong but not necessarily overpowered in online play, but she regularly one clips people on LAN. That's the biggest problem with her currently IMO.

Meta seems the same so far which is disappointing, but there has been some potential with the McCree-Doomfist DPS combo that could shake things up a bit. I'd still nerf Winston and D.Va though, especially about learning earlier today about how Overwatch's maps are what really make dive as strong as it is.

For anyone curious: https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiv..._avasts_thoughts_on_why_overwatch_map_design/
 

Anne

Member
I think the thing to change with Tracer is a slight nerf to her damage. I think she is very strong but not necessarily overpowered in online play, but she regularly one clips people on LAN. That's the biggest problem with her currently IMO.

One clipping is not something that happens for no reason. It's a lot of mechanical skill and punishing positioning, and I don't think it happens often enough or freely enough to be an issue. Pulse bomb being up almost every fight and having potential to autowin entire fights is a bit wild on top of her base kit being insane.

I thought we all agreed that Tracer was in a perfect spot.

It's hard to say whether she is or isn't. A lot of it seems to be meta, but at the same time people have gotten so much better at OW and it's really pushing Tracer to the next level. We won't know really as long as she has D.Va/Winston covering her.
 

Owzers

Member
When I was in a duo with Elza, we had plenty of good Genjis, thankfully. I can't stand when someone chooses Widow tho.
Just genji or genji/hanzo combo? I had the brothers show up last night on attack Gibraltar and they were against sym and Winston, it was a disaster.
 
One clipping is not something that happens for no reason. It's a lot of mechanical skill and punishing positioning, and I don't think it happens often enough or freely enough to be an issue. Pulse bomb being up almost every fight and having potential to autowin entire fights is a bit wild on top of her base kit being insane.



It's hard to say whether she is or isn't. A lot of it seems to be meta, but at the same time people have gotten so much better at OW and it's really pushing Tracer to the next level. We won't know really as long as she has D.Va/Winston covering her.

I'm really torn on it to be honest. Maybe the best thing to do is to make another part of her kit weaker but let the one clips live on? I don't really know what the best option is if we all think she needs a nerf.

I thought we all agreed that Tracer was in a perfect spot.

It's hard to tell how much is her being perfect for the meta or her helping to dictate the meta.

I 100% believe that players are way better with her now than they used to be, and it really just exposes how powerful pulse bomb can be in the right hands too.
 

LiK

Member
It's hard to say whether she is or isn't. A lot of it seems to be meta, but at the same time people have gotten so much better at OW and it's really pushing Tracer to the next level. We won't know really as long as she has D.Va/Winston covering her.

Yea, the DM with barrier makes her pretty useless in spots. I guess she's still viable as a backline harrasser.

Just genji or genji/hanzo combo? I had the brothers show up last night on attack Gibraltar and they were against sym and Winston, it was a disaster.

Just Genji. No Hanzo/Genji combo, thankfully. It sucks balls to have both on the same team.

It's hard to tell how much is her being perfect for the meta or her helping to dictate the meta.

I 100% believe that players are way better with her now than they used to be, and it really just exposes how powerful pulse bomb can be in the right hands too.

I have to admit I see way less Tracers now. Doesn't seem like people have her as the go to as much anymore. I see way more good Sombras in Comp now instead. Man, I hate them.
 
New map should be getting unveiled shortly by the way.

Other news is that the Seoul Overwatch League Team should be unveiling it's roster at midnight EST (at least I think so I'm not great at time zones) and it will almost assuredly be Lunatic Hai.
 

LiK

Member
Sty announced he'll have exclusive first dibs to show off the new map on his channel once it's unveiled so I guess I'll be checking it out this week there.
 
New map is Junkertown, confirmed escort.

There's a cool video with Junkrat and Roadhog where they introduce it but nothing on the map itself yet.
 
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