Mihael Mello Keehl
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PokéBOMB: Pokémon X and Y for 3DS (Coming October 2013 WW) - Lord Fennekin Ascends
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Dragoon En Regalia
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I haven't been able to get my Pokémon music project completed yet, and that's the main attraction for me. Even if I do, I have other things to worry about like high school. They don't like it when you use computers there.
ScraftyDevil
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Godspeed, then. I'll anxiously await both the completion of your project and the return of your musical genius to the community thread.
It was a big improvement over DP, but it was still slower than Gen 3... which it really shouldn't have been, being on more powerful hardware.
Still too many moments of just random pausing, too much text about statuses, and ui animations were annoyingly slow, even when battle animations were off.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
A lot of the "hated" designs actually are well thought-out the more you read their lore.
As for me I never hated Vanilluxe (especially if you read more about them). But eh, people also like Blandzard.
Man also made the awesome Golurk.
Dragoon En Regalia
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lol, It's a lot more complex than you might think. My editor's very picky (not necessarily a issue on principle), yet he's all the way across the Pacific. Time zones suck when it comes to quick communication.
I don't think I'll suffer any such issues in Pokémon X/Y, at least. Golurk's also there to cheer me up.
Ugh the stupid weather status interruption was SO SO SO annoying, in like any game. I think BW thankfully fixed that shit. I don't know why they waited that long to fix that...
Dragoon En Regalia
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I haven't played Platinum yet, but D/P felt like molasses compared to RSE. It's fine on a lazy day, but I'm not lax enough to tolerate it anymore. A bit slower than B/W's fine with me, though.
The fan art made me a believer of Chespin.
It's weird. I have the patience to easily chug through a 200 hour RPG without getting bored but I lose my shit when it comes to Pokemon battle speeds.
Gen V battle speed is damn amazing and a return to form and I hope hope hope hope it stays that way for future generations. I will not tolerate another 4th gen speed fiasco ever again.
Uno Venova
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Hmm, so what is this, dark/flying..other one psychic?Woah.
I've definitely noticed the dislike for gen III going down, and the dislike for gen IV going up. The farther we get away from R/S/E, the more nostalgic they become for people. God knows that affects how people judge them, myself included. With D/P/Pt, they're still recent enough in everybody's memory to where they aren't getting that nostalgia shield.
At one point I could without a doubt point out gen III as my least favorite, but now I honestly think I'd have to go with IV. Who knows? Maybe in three or four years time it'll be V, it's funny how things work.
At one point I could without a doubt point out gen III as my least favorite, but now I honestly think I'd have to go with IV. Who knows? Maybe in three or four years time it'll be V, it's funny how things work.
This is exactly how I feel. This is the main reason why I disliked the past two fire starters, and their designs were just icing on the cake.
You know, I kinda wanted to come in and say this.
Also they're running out of names, maybe they could stop making so many of them so fast.
Anyone up for some roasted Fennekin? I chopped some up and cooked them with tender love
Dragoon En Regalia
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Their design similarities make sense (referencing Journey to the West from Monkey to Pigsy and, eventually, to Sandy and Tripitaka), but the mere idea of repeating a theme across multiple generations doesn't work that well. It's better if each generation's starters benefit from surprising twists in inspiration, like with Chespin and (to an extent) Froakie.
POLITOED used RAIN DANCE!
*rain animation*
It started to rain!
*rain animation*
ONIX used SANDSTORM
*sandstorm animation*
A sandstorm brewed!
*sandstorm animation*
The sandstorm rages!
*sandstorm animation*
POLITOED is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Every goddamned turn.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
BW really is a blessing in battles. Now just remove the stats buff/debuff animation (make them really quick)
See this doesn't make sense.
How are they running out of names? Since Black/White the "flavor" of the titles have actually gotten better because they're now incorporated in the game's theme.
Also how could they be making "so many of them so fast" when there are only like 6 generations, as opposed to say, 13 final fantasies?
See this doesn't make sense.
How are they running out of names? Since Black/White the "flavor" of the titles have actually gotten better because they're now incorporated in the game's theme.
Also how could they be making "so many of them so fast" when there are only like 6 generations, as opposed to say, 13 final fantasies?
Dragoon En Regalia
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They are most definitely not running out of names. I think they're doing their best to get away from color-coding and gem titles, but that doesn't mean they won't get used down the line.
ColtraineGF
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Oh, one thing I noticed was that the game seemed to have a more muted palette compared to Gen 3 - now those games were colorful. The game speed in DP was uuuuugh as well - sims don't count. The games also seriously needed more Fire Pokemon.
Gen 4 has some of my favorite tracks of all the games (though G3 still has my favorites, with BW2 closing somewhere near that). They also have some cool gym leaders (including not-Minato, Gardenia, and Cynthia). The bicycle music is also the best (as I noted earlier). I have some favorites among the dex - Staraptor, Roserade, Pimpkrow, and Drapion being among them.
Gen 4 has some of my favorite tracks of all the games (though G3 still has my favorites, with BW2 closing somewhere near that). They also have some cool gym leaders (including not-Minato, Gardenia, and Cynthia). The bicycle music is also the best (as I noted earlier). I have some favorites among the dex - Staraptor, Roserade, Pimpkrow, and Drapion being among them.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah Gen 4 has really good mons like Staraptor and Honchkrow. As much as I love my Braviary Gen 4 delivered on bird Pokemon (man I want to strangle Unfeazant).
Dragoon En Regalia
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Hmm. Bicycle track rankings are usually rather difficult, but I'd say D/P's ranks high. And there are a bunch of cool evos all-throughout, so I'll agree with that.
ColtraineGF
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I think they are moving towards tying the games' names more closely to the story, rather than choosing them arbitrarily because they're opposite. Hence the choice for using Black/White in G5, and (presumably) X/Y for this gen (assuming the story has to do with genetics, science, etc.).
Dragoon En Regalia
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That's the general trend, yes. They used to simply base it around the usual starter-type triad, and now they're getting away from that in the best way possible.
ColtraineGF
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As a side note... like how the Japanese logo design changes every generation, anyone see any significance in the logo being a 3D render of the Generation 3 style logo?
Well, the logos are still red and blue... They're embracing their past if nothing else.
Wait, I actually like Fennekin --unless its final IS a Fire/Fight, then I'd gladly take those!Anyone up for some roasted Fennekin? I chopped some up and cooked them with tender love
I've always thought since Blaziken is like
(probably is)
Dragoon En Regalia
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Do not entertain such thoughts any longer, son. Know the way through which Chimchar entered the worldas but a stone Monkey!
They're running out of names because they've already used up basic colors and minerals
Also there arent just 6 generations there are:
R/B/Y
S/G/C
R/E/S
P/D/P
B/w
B2/w2
X/Y with a possible Z
That's almost 20 main games, 23 if you count the remakes. Offshoots don't count. Also the fact that they're similar games with minor differences doesn't really count either.
ScraftyDevil
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Clicked the link expecting Monkey Magic.
Was not disappointed. Good job, mate.
Dragoon En Regalia
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Who says the best names are those of basic colors and/or minerals? You could do much worse. It's a good thing we'll never see Pokémon Version—
—Wait, I'm not going to jynx us with numbered versions, that's not okay.
—Wait, I'm not going to jynx us with numbered versions, that's not okay.
The album version of the Godiego song sounds much better and develops more. It's like technopop space funk descending from the heavens. I haven't found it on YouTube yet, oddly.
Well, I haven't been in PokeGAF much since B2W2 came out. Could be filled with new faces that I don't know.
DP battle speed has never bothered me, either.
BW2 aren't their own generations and they didn't run out of names. They more than likely went with X and Y for story reasons like they did with Black and White.
ScraftyDevil
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Is that the version in Ouendan 2? Because that's how I'm familiar wity that song (played it so many times for an S-Rank that I can sing it off by heart now ^_^
Dragoon En Regalia
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If I saw that, I'd rather funnel Fennelkin out of my memory cycles. That's just strange, man.
I wouldn't know what version's in Ouendan 2, so don't ask me. It starts with the synth intro, heads into a up-cadence synth bridge, and finally settles on the usual string glissandos and funky stuff. The show version edits a good deal of that out.Is that the version in Ouendan 2? Because that's how I'm familiar wity that song (played it so many times for an S-Rank that I can sing it off by heart now ^_^
If it's anything like B/w or d/p then their naming scheme is based on the Yet More Legendaries aspect of pokemon. Come on, we have enough. I want to have some good pokemon without having to use legendaries, or having to use non-legendaries to intentionally gimp myself to artificially make the game somewhat harder.
Having letters or "black/white" is not nearly as interesting as a mineral or color subtitle
oh em gee. Are you effing serious right now?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Blaziken is a cock fighter - you know, cock fighting? It's an (illegal) sport.
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They aren't running out of names especially now when they use the names AS themes. I'd agree with you had they never used Black/White as a theme in Gen 5.
And no, there are only 6 generations.
Remakes do not count because it reuses the same engine with some tweaks without adding new Pokemon.
And yes, multiple versions do count as singular games. The whole point of Pokemon is buying a single game and trading with others - since you're virtually experiencing the same game - only difference is the roster.
lol, why is that, exactly?
Assuming they rope remakes back into the release cycle, I don't think this is going to happen in Gen VI.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah I don't normally look down at Junior posts... but wow...
Yeah this is trolling post right here.
BW is used because it is part of the whole plot of Gen V and the legendaries reflect that. It's not just the "Legendaries" aspect. Stop being shallow and actually play the game.
Yeah this is trolling post right here.
BW is used because it is part of the whole plot of Gen V and the legendaries reflect that. It's not just the "Legendaries" aspect. Stop being shallow and actually play the game.
Dragoon En Regalia
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It makes sense because the main antagonist, Ghetsis, sees his conflict with the rest of Unova in black and white contrasts, and there ain't any gray in-between. The names are a lot more meaningful than just standard mineral ones (not to say that the latter can't benefit future mainline versions in the same as Black/White).
They went with Black and White because of the whole deal with Team Plasma and whether its right for humans to own Pokemon or not.
Okay I'll reword that:
They're running out of names that are interesting as titles. I didn't mean to put it as a different generation.
Remakes do count arguably because it's not the same as the older game, all the features pretty much invalidates ever playing the older ones again because the newer features are so much better.
I suppose if we're only counting singular games then in my opinion there's only been 6 games: Y/S/S/P/W/W2. I know the point of pokemon is trading with others but frankly no one I know plays it anymore, and playing/trading with some stranger doesn't appeal to me so the games are just single player endeavors until I beat the Big Boss and then I never touch the game again until the next one.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Also I feel sad that people only see XY as letters as opposed to axes, dimensions, chromosomes, etc.
Such plebs~
It may not be interesting for you but ever since Black and White they've been actually putting much thought into their titles. Notice how many meanings can be drawn from XY vs. Red/Blue or Gold/Silver (especially GS, which felt really arbitrary).
And that's just you then - Pokemon pretty much promotes the idea of trading to anyone and online trading pretty much has that. And I find it ironic on your last post since RBY has no post game vs. the rest of the generation.
Such plebs~
It may not be interesting for you but ever since Black and White they've been actually putting much thought into their titles. Notice how many meanings can be drawn from XY vs. Red/Blue or Gold/Silver (especially GS, which felt really arbitrary).
And that's just you then - Pokemon pretty much promotes the idea of trading to anyone and online trading pretty much has that. And I find it ironic on your last post since RBY has no post game vs. the rest of the generation.
ColtraineGF
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Black/White, aside from being the color of Resh/Zek, represented the conflicts going on in the story:
- The original schism between the Hero of Ideals and the Hero of Truth, and the splitting of the original dragon into R+Z
- The general goal/concern of Team Plasma: Pokemon as friends (idealistic), or Pokemon as prisoners (truth..maybe)?
- The smaller story of N, and his interactions with the main character as he learns about how seeing the world in black and white (thanks to the influence of Ghetsis) isn't necessarily the right way to go.
and so on. Really, anyone who's played the games could've told you that.
I'm not trolling at all? Posting a honest opinion is trolling because it doesn't saddle with yours? If we were talking face to face I'd tell you the same thing :|
I've played White and most of White 2 and the most I got from that was the fact one pokemon was white and one pokemon was black. If you're talking about the ideals of the Bad Guys, all the pokemon games are black and white conflicts.
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