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PS4 Pro boxes getting prepped
- Thread starter shinobi602
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Sorry. Its just a sore spot for me, such a thing happening would be very anti-consumer i think and would delegitimize PS4 purchasers, considering all the talk of the Pro not being a next generation unit, that survives off of the back of PS4's software output alone. That's without mentioning that the hardware isn't holding back PS Pro games from anything besides better graphics.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It's smaller and they removed some functionality. That was probably the only way to stay profitable with a $50 price cut.
Pantz
Member
Got Tomb Raider and Skyrim and a few others waiting but probably will play Infinite Warfare fist. Then try them all after that!
Ps4 pro was quite clearly designed for psvr as ps4 isn't powerful enough for decent vr visuals/performance
Robot Pants
Member
Starting to get a bit hyped
So Sony designed an entire console SKU around a peripheral which they had no real way of knowing would even be a success in the first place 3 years ago? (which was the time Cerny said they started thinking about it Pro)
Cool story.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
This isn't true.
Snarfington
Member
I mean it's in tens, probably hundreds of thousands of homes right now doing a pretty damn good job so I don't think you're right there.
GinoFelino
Member
Man, you and me both. I can't go from a MGS V limited edition to this ugly black slab of matte plastic. Give me something Sony, anything.
Can't believe people still think this, especially since PS VR is out right now.
Love my white PS4 so I'm not upgrading for a black one. If they bring a white one out in spring I'm doomed to buy it, and then the 4K TV upgrade is inevitably next.
If pro is clearly a mid-gen refresh, and Scorpio is out only 10-12 months later, why are people so convinced that Scorpio will be a reset button, next gen kind of thing?
GinoFelino
Member
You may be confusing the well-informed, sensible people with those who believe PS4 Pro/Scorpio are a reset button.
Both will do nothing* but render existing OG PS4/XB1 games in 4K.
(*+a lot of things)
Backfoggen
Banned
Driveclub VR is the only game I can think of that could use more power in all of the current line-up.
BossDarkseid
Member
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Your tag suits you.
Haven't heard this bullshit in a long time, especially after launch of the PSVR.
There seems to be an expectation that Scorpio will be a more radical change, with a new CPU, much more memory etc. The reality is, we don't know these things. We know it will have faster memory than XBO. But all they've said about the CPU is '8 cores', which could just mean an upclocked Jaguar too.
Is this parody of old posts? Psvr is out and the og ps4 copes very well in the majority of games. In fact, some humble pie needs to be eaten.
GinoFelino
Member
No matter how radical it is, it still won't do anything but render Xbox One games in 4k/1080p with some bells and whistles. Same with the Pro.
Let it be known that I am totally on board with that though. 
Well most importantly, its because Xbox 1 itself is so anemic that the upgrade is far more drastic than the PS4's upgrade to Pro, which generally stretches the suspension of belief for some that games will be limited to XB1 levels where any other console in that realm of upgrade would be considered close to a new generational upgrade.
The Scorpio's GPU alone looks to be close to 6x more processing power than the XB1's GPU, not counting the 4 years worth of GPU architecture advancements from XB1 launch to Scorpio launch.
A potential Zen CPU enough would be worth a new gen console IMO, but 6tflops and 12GB ram at 320GB/s(the rumored basic specs) is pretty good too as an upgrade as well.
Compare that to PS4 to Pro's 1.84 tflop to 4.2(exactly 2x GPU) 30% CPU and 30% Bandwidth, and the differences are much more reserved from PS4 to Pro.
Of course, that makes sense with Sony's strategy. If Pro is a midgen upgrade, then the console they actually put effort into next(IE PS5) will be significantly stronger than base PS4,but with the addition of having its own library taking full advantage of the platform
My guess for PS5 has always been about 10tflops, 16GB RAM, 500+GB/s, and Zen.
Now, all that having been said, a lot of those rumors for Scorpio are still unconfirmed, especially the Zen CPU which has already been claimed by AMD itself to not be ready for console style integration until 2018, past the point Scorpio will be out in the wild. Having the same Jaguar CPU would essentially handicap the Scorpio significantly.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
I'm pretty sure I've seen that idiot post the same thing previously. Fucked if I'm trawling that history though.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Pre ordered and paid off for the 10th. Hype on full blast
I wonder if that is wishful thinking because it isn't out yet? Everyone wanted more of a CPU boost on pro for that fabled 60fps but it never came true. My sensible side thinks Scorpio will just be an Xbox one with a much faster GPU for XB1 games at 4K but with similar CPU limitations. Assuming they still go with an APU there isn't much alternative.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
What year do you see the PS5 launching? 10TF is a top of the line graphics card right now. Has to be at least 2 years, more like 3.
thelastword
Banned
Perhaps you're up for the spectacle of launch, better experienced in store..... where you see other persons similarly enthused...However, Amazon is so kosher with delivery that'd I\d rather go that route. I prefer it coming to me than going to them, but there are benefits on both sides tbh...
Anyways can't wait...My 4k screen awaits....We may have to setup a screenshot thread for 4k pics only btw....
GinoFelino
Member
Three years sounds about right. Probably around September 2019. Maybe even early 2019. 10 TF might be lowballing it for that timeframe.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Gonna go up to Manchester to get those hot out the van leaks.
Since i've always assumed that Sony were going back to traditional length of console cycles(6 years or so) due to not blowing their budget on complex esoteric hardware like Cell, i assumed at the time the PS4 launched that PS5 would come in late 2019(or 2020, at the latest). I still stick by that.
That is why Pro as a mid gen upgrade makes sense to me time wise for launching this year. If the gen is 6 years, Sony are literally launching the mid gen console right in the middle of the gen.
Because Microsoft's motivation in this is different. They haven't made the same commitment to forwards compatibility as Sony has. Why? Because they want the option to throw it under the bus if it gives them bragging rights faster, cheaper. That's what they need. They have a lot to prove. They need marketable showcases to win people over.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
*iunderstandthisreference*
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
I'm sorry. That tag and post of his stood out. I wouldn't waste your time though.
User123456
Member
Are they seriously doing the "supercharged" thing again? Lol.
Box looks pretty nice though. All PS4 boxes have a premium look to them.
Box looks pretty nice though. All PS4 boxes have a premium look to them.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
I love how they perfectly explain the product in 4 bullet points when there were countless threads asking "How do you explain this product to casuals! Its so confusing!"
RocknRola
Member
Off-topic question: is that a good tv to take advantage of 4k+HDR gaming? It's very well priced for a 4K set with HDR, just wondering if I should consider it.
valkillmore
Member
If I only had the money and if I only didn't already have a PS4
Mine is going to be watch dogs 2 and BF1 when they release a patch
Spiral Insanity
Banned
I wonder if my wife will notice that my PS4 has suddenly grown.
Yes it's a great Tv, at a great price.
We have a big thread on this model, check it out for info and impressions.
Audiophile
Member
If a little plain, I do find it looks better in person.
And I find the back a lot tidier!
