All I said was that was he didn't completely dismiss the idea of it ever happening. It shouldn't and probably won't happen, but I thought it was worth noting.
Isn't Sony already making decent profit on the OG model? The only way I could see a Slim revision being necessary is if the slim is bringing in more profits .
What is everyone's first Pro game going to be?
Nah. This is intended to be a middgen console in its entirety, and so it reflects that in its specs. Scorpio is launching an entire 12 months later, so them being compared as if they are launching at the same time is a bit strange.
Also, if they had waited any longer, the PS5's launch would have been pushed back significantly to compensate for the Pro's increase or they would have invalidated the point of the Pro entirely if they had stuck to their timetable.
Ps4 pro was quite clearly designed for psvr as ps4 isn't powerful enough for decent vr visuals/performance
Ps4 pro was quite clearly designed for psvr as ps4 isn't powerful enough for decent vr visuals/performance
Ps4 pro was quite clearly designed for psvr as ps4 isn't powerful enough for decent vr visuals/performance
Man, you and me both. I can't go from a MGS V limited edition to this ugly black slab of matte plastic. Give me something Sony, anything.I really, really wish they released a white version simultaneously.
Ps4 pro was quite clearly designed for psvr as ps4 isn't powerful enough for decent vr visuals/performance
I really, really wish they released a white version simultaneously.
Nah. This is intended to be a middgen console in its entirety, and so it reflects that in its specs. Scorpio is launching an entire 12 months later, so them being compared as if they are launching at the same time is a bit strange.
Also, if they had waited any longer, the PS5's launch would have been pushed back significantly to compensate for the Pro's increase or they would have invalidated the point of the Pro entirely if they had stuck to their timetable.
You may be confusing the well-informed, sensible people with those who believe PS4 Pro/Scorpio are a reset button.Love my white PS4 so I'm not upgrading for a black one. If they bring a white one out in spring I'm doomed to buy it, and then the 4K TV upgrade is inevitably next.
If pro is clearly a mid-gen refresh, and Scorpio is out only 10-12 months later, why are people so convinced that Scorpio will be a reset button, next gen kind of thing?
Ps4 pro was quite clearly designed for psvr as ps4 isn't powerful enough for decent vr visuals/performance
Ps4 pro was quite clearly designed for psvr as ps4 isn't powerful enough for decent vr visuals/performance
There seems to be an expectation that Scorpio will be a more radical change, with a new CPU, much more memory etc. The reality is, we don't know these things. We know it will have faster memory than XBO. But all they've said about the CPU is '8 cores', which could just mean an upclocked Jaguar too.If pro is clearly a mid-gen refresh, and Scorpio is out only 10-12 months later, why are people so convinced that Scorpio will be a reset button, next gen kind of thing?
Ps4 pro was quite clearly designed for psvr as ps4 isn't powerful enough for decent vr visuals/performance
No matter how radical it is, it still won't do anything but render Xbox One games in 4k/1080p with some bells and whistles. Same with the Pro.There seems to be an expectation that Scorpio will be a more radical change, with a new CPU, much more memory etc. The reality is, we don't know these things. We know it will have faster memory than XBO. But all they've said about the CPU is '8 cores', which could just mean an upclocked Jaguar too.
If pro is clearly a mid-gen refresh, and Scorpio is out only 10-12 months later, why are people so convinced that Scorpio will be a reset button, next gen kind of thing?
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Haven't heard this bullshit in a long time, especially after launch of the PSVR.
There seems to be an expectation that Scorpio will be a more radical change, with a new CPU, much more memory etc. The reality is, we don't know these things. We know it will have faster memory than XBO. But all they've said about the CPU is '8 cores', which could just mean an upclocked Jaguar too.
I'm pretty sure I've seen that idiot post the same thing previously. Fucked if I'm trawling that history though.
Well most importantly, its because Xbox 1 itself is so anemic that the upgrade is far more drastic than the PS4's upgrade to Pro, which generally stretches the suspension of belief for some that games will be limited to XB1 levels where any other console in that realm of upgrade would be considered close to a new generational upgrade.
The Scorpio's GPU alone looks to be close to 6x more processing power than the XB1's GPU, not counting the 4 years worth of GPU architecture advancements from XB1 launch to Scorpio launch.
A potential Zen CPU enough would be worth a new gen console IMO, but 6tflops and 12GB ram at 320GB/s(the rumored basic specs) is pretty good too as an upgrade as well.
Compare that to PS4 to Pro's 1.84 tflop to 4.2(exactly 2x GPU) 30% CPU and 30% Bandwidth, and the differences are much more reserved from PS4 to Pro.
Of course, that makes sense with Sony's strategy. If Pro is a midgen upgrade, then the console they actually put effort into next(IE PS5) will be significantly stronger than base PS4,but with the addition of having its own library taking full advantage of the platform
My guess for PS5 has always been about 10tflops, 16GB RAM, 500+GB/s, and Zen.
Now, all that having been said, a lot of those rumors for Scorpio are still unconfirmed, especially the Zen CPU which has already been claimed by AMD itself to not be ready for console style integration until 2018, past the point Scorpio will be out in the wild. Having the same Jaguar CPU would essentially handicap the Scorpio significantly.
Perhaps you're up for the spectacle of launch, better experienced in store..... where you see other persons similarly enthused...However, Amazon is so kosher with delivery that'd I\d rather go that route. I prefer it coming to me than going to them, but there are benefits on both sides tbh...Debating about changing my pre-order from Amazon to a walk-in store. Decisions!
What year do you see the PS5 launching? 10TF is a top of the line graphics card right now. Has to be at least 2 years, more like 3.
What year do you see the PS5 launching? 10TF is a top of the line graphics card right now. Has to be at least 2 years, more like 3.
Because Microsoft's motivation in this is different. They haven't made the same commitment to forwards compatibility as Sony has. Why? Because they want the option to throw it under the bus if it gives them bragging rights faster, cheaper. That's what they need. They have a lot to prove. They need marketable showcases to win people over.If pro is clearly a mid-gen refresh, and Scorpio is out only 10-12 months later, why are people so convinced that Scorpio will be a reset button, next gen kind of thing?
Gonna go up to Manchester to get those hot out the van leaks.
You've baited me to check his post history...
Why? :-(
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Mine is going to be watch dogs 2 and BF1 when they release a patchWhat is everyone's first Pro game going to be?
Off-topic question: is that a good tv to take advantage of 4k+HDR gaming? It's very well priced for a 4K set with HDR, just wondering if I should consider it.
I wonder if my wife will notice that my PS4 has suddenly grown.
Every time I see it, I'm re-surprised by how shit the design looks. Big Mac PS4 seems like the first thing you throw out during brainstorming before being scrapped immediately. Unfortunately, someone got their attachments fucked up and accidentally sent that design to the manufacturer.