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Rage at Rage Reviews Thread

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
sk3tch said:
So you're essentially agreeing with my write-off of the game (that SalsaShark quoted). It's all because of cost. If this was $29.99 right now on Steam - I would buy it. I can handle a 6 for that money especially with id's legacy and the gunplay. But right now, all I said was "wait and see" - I'm returning my Amazon copy because it cost me $54.99.
I only brought up cash because people are continually mentioning it. My personal opinion is that a game is worth as much as you value it. Insert your own value. The price has to be worth the content of the game. Basically, the content of the game creates its dollar value worth.

I play titles based on how much I love the gameplay. I picked up ZOE2 for 50$ day one, and I had to of put 40-50 hours into it. To make the point clear, its a 6 hour game. Not once did it occur to me I wasted my money. While some people only played it once or twice, and still think it was worth the 50$. You are disappointed in the notion that the amount of content in the game isn't worth the asking price, while Salsa is hyped up over the gunplay. You both put your value into different areas. Hence why it is worth his 60$ while your 30$. The journey is totally worth it to some, while others always want more.

To me, the title was always going to be a 10$ game. Simple as that. Unless it got glowing impressions from Gaffers and my initial assumptions were off(Seldom are, but Deus Ex:HR was a recent one). Its easily ignorable till that sale comes along a year from now. "Hey, it looked decent enough and I heard it has some nice weapons and gunplay"
*Buy for 7.50$*.
 

JaxJag

Banned
I was about to read the Joystiq review, but then I saw it was Arthur Gies and just closed the page.

Would have been a waste of my time.
 

Vire

Member
SalsaShark said:
exactly, the four sixes, in comparissing to the other 11 very positive reviews, and there's even more outside this thread.

All im saying is that there's some weird selective attention going on here.
A 6, 7 and 8 isn't very positive...

You need to take off your rose tinted glasses buddy.

At the end of the day, this will not be a part of Game of the Year candidates and thus, I'll be placing my money elsewhere this fall. If there was a shortage of great games coming out, I would have given this a harder look - but that's not the case. This fall is stacked with AAA titles that won't be getting mixed reviews.
 

Duffyside

Banned
Vire said:
A 7 and 8 isn't very positive...

You need to take off your rose tinted glasses buddy.

At the end of the day, this will not be a part of Game of the Year candidates and thus, I'll be placing my money elsewhere this fall. If there was a shortage of great games coming out, I would have given this a harder look - but that's not the case. This fall is stacked with AAA titles that won't be getting mixed reviews.
So do you only play like 5 games a year?
 

Salsa

Member
Vire said:
You need to take off your rose tinted glasses buddy.

dude, i dont know what rose tinted glasses make you see positive in eleven positive reviews over 4 bad ones. You can argue that to me in order of what you pay attention to, but telling me im in the wrong when the ratio between good scores and bad scores is so damn obvious? im just stating it.

do you only play games rated 9 and 10? you need to start trying some games for yourself.
 
Cipherr said:
You dont think we are doing that? Feel free to come over to the thread and teach PC gamers how to make sure they have up to date drivers, install the game on SSD's to make sure its not a drive speed bottleneck and explain to us the magical effects of vertical sync and the like.








cmon now...

Calm down buddy..... not every gamer or pc gamer is like you!
 

denomes

Member
Vire said:
If it was one low score that one be fine, but it's not just one outlet. When $60 is a lot to ask - I'll spend it on something that I know for sure is a sound investment with great scores across the board. An 8 to me isn't impressive either, especially since this upcoming fall will have games with nothing but 9's. Why should I get Rage over Batman AC/Skyrim/Uncharted 3 when I know they will score much higher.

Are the scores that important? Do you base your choice of games on any other criteria?
 

Stahsky

A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
Vire said:
A 6, 7 and 8 isn't very positive...

You need to take off your rose tinted glasses buddy.

At the end of the day, this will not be a part of Game of the Year candidates and thus, I'll be placing my money elsewhere this fall. If there was a shortage of great games coming out, I would have given this a harder look - but that's not the case. This fall is stacked with AAA titles that won't be getting mixed reviews.




Do you own all of Metacritic's top scored games? What the what is this shit.
 
SalsaShark said:
dude, i dont know what rose tinted glasses make you see positive in eleven positive reviews over 4 bad ones. You can argue that to me in order of what you pay attention to, but telling me im in the wrong when the ratio between good scores and bad scores is so damn obvious? im just stating it.

do you only play games rated 9 and 10? you need to start trying some games for yourself.

'try' as in pirate? Or is there a demo out?
 

hyduK

Banned
SalsaShark said:
exactly, the four sixes, in comparissing to the other 11 very positive reviews, and there's even more outside this thread.

All im saying is that there's some weird selective attention going on here. I get if you dont wanna pay 60 bucks for the game though, cause id never pay that for anything




no you dont

Very positive? Let's be real, a 7 or an 8 is a dime a dozen in this industry.
 

AzaK

Member
Tom Penny said:
Great graphics. Meh gameplay. What else is new in this era of shooters. Hopefully the COD can set the bar for both.

I assume my sarcasm metre is just not working, no?
 

Vire

Member
denomes said:
Are the scores that important? Do you base your choice of game on any other criteria?
They aren't the end all be all of course not. I tend to consult review sites that I know and trust. I visit Joystiq regularly and I'm looking forward to Giant Bomb and Edge's reviews. Those are the sites that I depend on. Obviously, watching videos is immensely helpful but they don't always give you a good sense of what the actual game is like. Which is why I like the Quick Look format....

Poor story, bad save state problems, shallow gameplay, and creatively bankrupt doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
hyduK said:
Very positive? Let's be real, a 7 or an 8 is a dime a dozen in this industry.

That's all I'm saying. If we were looking on lean times - I'd totally be interested. But I guarantee you that Skyrim, Batman AC and Uncharted 3 will have over a 90 on metecritic. While this will be LUCKY to be in the low 80's.
 

Salsa

Member
chickdigger802 said:
'try' as in pirate? Or is there a demo out?

try as in buy a game you think youre gonna enjoy even if the reviews arent all 10/10

hyduK said:
Very positive? Let's be real, a 7 or an 8 is a dime a dozen in this industry.

I pay 0 attention to reviews because the score system is beyond fucked and people's reactions to them are even worse. People bitching over 7s and 8s on a 10 scale system are comical to me.

Besides that though: plenty of 9s and even 9.5s
 

Chuck

Still without luck
just read this in the Eurogamer review;

"id Software's John Carmack once likened stories in games to stories in porn..."

uuugh...
 
Vire said:
They aren't the end all be all of course not. I tend to consult review sites that I know and trust. I visit Joystiq regularly and I'm looking forward to Giant Bomb and Edge's reviews. Obviously, watching videos is immensely helpful but they don't always give you a good sense of what the actual game is like. Which is why I like the Quick Look format....

Am really surprised at people that are hating at you.

With how much potentially awesome stuff coming out this year you can easily spend $600 on games.

The game gotta be pretty damn good before I decide to spend full price, especially where amazon and steam deals for new games happen within weeks of release.
 

Paches

Member
SalsaShark said:
try as in buy a game you think youre gonna enjoy even if the reviews arent all 10/10



I pay 0 attention to reviews because the score system is beyond fucked and people's reactions to them are even worse. People bitching over 7s and 8s on a 10 scale system are comical to me.

Besides that though: plenty of 9s and even 9.5s
"Try". Yeah, I am not really big on $60 dollar gambles myself. I tend to only buy things I know for sure I am going to like or are getting positive feedback from reviews and GAF.
 

Salsa

Member
ChuckNoLuck said:
just read this in the Eurogamer review;

"id Software's John Carmack once likened stories in games to stories in porn..."

uuugh...

Well he has no hand in anything beyond the technical aspects, so who cares what he thinks in that regard, haha.

Paches-EJ- said:
"Try". Yeah, I am not really big on $60 dollar gambles myself. I tend to only buy things I know for sure I am going to like or are getting positive feedback from reviews and GAF.

at this point im not even refering to this game, im talking about his buying habits. You're just gonna miss a lot of stuff youre gonna love if you go just by reviews.

All im saying is that if you had good interest in this game, and saying 4 bad reviews and 11 positive ones together completely takes that interest away, then there's something wrong with you.
 
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Deleted member 81567

Unconfirmed Member
That Gametrailers video review was pretty good. Much more indepth than other reviews.
 

Vire

Member
chickdigger802 said:
Am really surprised at people that are hating at you.

With how much potentially awesome stuff coming out this year you can easily spend $600 on games.

The game gotta be pretty damn good before I decide to spend full price, especially where amazon and steam deals for new games happen within weeks of release.
High five. I don't see the problem in this statement...


SalsaShark said:
try as in buy a game you think youre gonna enjoy even if the reviews arent all 10/10



I pay 0 attention to reviews because the score system is beyond fucked and people's reactions to them are even worse. People bitching over 7s and 8s on a 10 scale system are comical to me.

Besides that though: plenty of 9s and even 9.5s

So now you don't care about reviews? SMH...

Why did you come in here then? To be the bastion and fight off the doubters of the game?
 

hyduK

Banned
SalsaShark said:
I pay 0 attention to reviews because the score system is beyond fucked and people's reactions to them are even worse. People bitching over 7s and 8s on a 10 scale system are comical to me.

Besides that though: plenty of 9s and even 9.5s
Exactly, the score system is fucked to the point where for your game to score less than a 70 on metacritic it has to be absolutely broken. If you never played any game that averaged below 70 you'd probably miss out on like two games a gen. Even the 70-80 range is polluted with a large amount of trash that isn't worth anywhere near $60.
 

Aaron

Member
Co-op is just a few missions and not the whole game? Why so lame, Rage? Guess I go back to Borderlands.
 

Salsa

Member
hyduK said:
If you never played any game that averaged below 70 you'd probably miss out on like two games a gen.

I strongly disagree.

Opinions! and all that

Vire said:
So now you don't care about reviews? SMH...

Why did you come in here then? To be the bastion and fight off the doubters of the game?

Im pretty much confirming what im saying (that i dont like reviews) by looking at this thread. Put a couple of bad reviews out there and people will just completely ignore the positive ones.
 

Cipherr

Member
Vire said:
That's all I'm saying. If we were looking on lean times - I'd totally be interested. But I guarantee you that Skyrim, Batman AC and Uncharted 3 will have over a 90 on metecritic. While this will be LUCKY to be in the low 80's.

I respect your opinion, doesn't bother me if you aren't interested in the game. But hot damn, lol. To actually meet someone that takes metacritic and the like that seriously just throws me for a loop.

Ive never really liked those sites, but I guess now I'm finding out why they are still around. Folks use them as a true to life purchase guide.
 

Paches

Member
soulassssns said:
Is it me or are all the "nobody" sites with the low scores?

So the ones without pressure to put a good score up to ensure they continue to be in good favor from the publisher?

I kid....kind of...maybe not.... :(
 

Tiktaalik

Member
I was definitely expecting mixed reviews for this title. I actually expected worse, but we could be seeing the hype pull up scores. That seems to happen all the time.
 

Vire

Member
Cipherr said:
I respect your opinion, doesn't bother me if you aren't interested in the game. But hot damn, lol. To actually meet someone that takes metacritic and the like that seriously just throws me for a loop.

Ive never really liked those sites, but I guess now I'm finding out why they are still around. Folks use them as a true to life purchase guide.
It's not my purchasing guide. It's an aid. It's not the end all be all.

That's the point.

and Salsa - please enlighten me on all the 7 rated games that I missed out on this generation...
 

Salsa

Member
Cipherr said:
To actually meet someone that takes metacritic and the like that seriously just throws me for a loop.

seriously

not only that but how vire's saying that scores are what you should pay attention to in a review, and then assures a 9 review on games he likes going by what those companies have made in the past (wich is something much more important than reviews).

not trying to hate/mock, everyone is free to base his purchases on what he wants, but i find it odd.
 
Paches-EJ- said:
So the ones without pressure to put a good score up to ensure they continue to be in good favor from the publisher?

I kid....kind of...maybe not.... :(

Or outright bash it for no reason to get the site in the eyes of gamers and developers?
 

Vire

Member
More times than not when I decide to take a whim and get a 8 or lower game from sites I trust I'm usually disappointed. (Fable 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Final Fantasy 13, Resistance) come to mind. So now, I'm a lot more discriminating towards these games since I've been burned one too many times. I don't have $60 to just go on a whim and try things out.

I really don't see what's so crazy about this. You guys can go ahead and get it and it enjoy it - I'm not stopping you but you shouldn't be surprised about people not being impressed by 6's, 7's and 8's.
 

Chuck

Still without luck
SalsaShark said:
I pay 0 attention to reviews because the score system is beyond fucked and people's reactions to them are even worse. People bitching over 7s and 8s on a 10 scale system are comical to me.
You know you can ignore both the scores and peoples reactions to them, and take the written opinion of someone you trust into account when buying a game. That's kind of what reviews are supposed to do.
 
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