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Rumored Chinese Forum Xbox720 specs: 8CoreCPU,8GB,HD8800GPU,W8,640GBHDD
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Rösti
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The CPU in Xbox 360 is a three-way symmetric multiprocessor design with three PowerPC cores.
Baconsammy
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It means at every E3 there's going to be a lot of forum bitching and moaning, because that much ram dedicated to the OS means they're going to be doing a lot more with the Xbox than playing games. And they're going to be discussing those features and adding to them every year, and it will be presented at E3. I can't wait.
They're just doing what MS as a whole started with Windows Phone. Metro-ise the icon (flat, no gradients) and use Segoe for the font. It seems like the first time ever that Microsoft has a similar look across all of their products.
Note: I'm referring to just MS and not those other companies.
jeff_rigby
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Just for discussion:
1) Mobile series does not duplicate the video/audio out and hardware codecs that are in the APU.
2) Mobile series are designed to be more efficient and have been announced now while the HD 8000 desktop PC are coming later in 2013.
3) LPM silicon has a higher yield than HP performance silicon in 2013
4) Yes, mobile can be clocked higher in a console as it has fans and battery life is not an issue.
5) The 8000M advertising packet specifies NDA and Console GPUs so some 8000M GPU will be in consoles. If it's too modified then AMD can't tout it and use it in advertising. It can be from a near future AMD GPU or APU and that would work for AMD.
6) The discrete GPU is likely one that shows up now with the Thebe and Kryptos HWinfo.com rather than later. Enthusiast GPU (Sun 8900M series) is not even listed in the AMD roadmap but it's disclosed in HWinfo.com. If Sony and Microsoft need to use Mobile then a future top of the line "Enthusiast GPU" is best no?
These appear to be new hardware by AMD that the HWinfo.com software can report on. Posted Oct 8, 2012 which likely means it exists in some form BEFORE Oct 8, 2012. Kryptos and Thebe show up in this and so might the second GPU. My guess is mobile so I have bolded those but it could be HP 8000 series in the following.
Added AMD Sun, Neptune, Ibiza, Cozumel, Kauai, Hainan, Curacao, Aruba, Richland Devastator/Scrapper, Thebe, Kryptos, Samara, Pennar.
This was changed yesterday with Sun being = to Mars which does not make sense so I left the older unchanged information below. Venus now occupies Sun's position in the following chart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Islands_(GPU_family)#Solar_System_.28HD_8xxxM.29_series
Neptune is a 8870M .992Tflops Uses GDDR5 256 bit (is part of the 8800M series)
Sun XT is a 8970M unknown Tflops Uses GDDR5 384 bit (8900M series is not listed officially from AMD anywhere) Now called Venus.
Sept 2011 Noises About Radeon HD 7900 Series with XDR2 Memory Grow
Then there is this from SemiAccurate Sept 2012:
Rambus shows a best of both worlds memory tech
It could used DDR3 wires but everything else could be different. If this is being used there is no need for a Silicon Interposer or wide IO memory. Provided the price is right.
Was the 360 the last piece of important consumer electronics not to have wifi built in?
The overpriced wifi adapter was on reason I didn’t get a 360 till 2010.
I wonder if they're surprised they kept secrets this long.
I mean, leaks in this industry are pretty common, and this is much closer to launch than "project cafe" was.
30 min. espn talk, cuz now you can watch 8 fuusball gamez simultaneously.
I'm sure they will offer a subsidized console. If it is $400 for the high end model, I would be very pleased. Anyways this is how I feel about next gen right now:
Agent Ironside
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Would this really leave 6GB+ of RAM for games if the 8GB spec is true? That's insane to me for a closed platform console.
Proelite
Member
Whatever is competitive with the GTX 680.
Karak
Member
Expectations and revisions will be all over the place until they settle down. It would leave whatever is left. IF the 8 is true, theoretically they would probably just hold more for overall OS flexibility. 6 is re-damn-diculas for games.
MakeMeFeelAlive
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Must be fake specs. Those specs arent needed to play halo, kinect, or watch tv. Which lretty much sums up microsoft's position on consoles.
And when will people learn about rumored specs. How often have tbey actually been right? Especially this far out. People barely get a fraction of the specs right on cell phones, and those are released evry yearvand know what theve more or less have been working with
And when will people learn about rumored specs. How often have tbey actually been right? Especially this far out. People barely get a fraction of the specs right on cell phones, and those are released evry yearvand know what theve more or less have been working with
AllIsOneIsNone
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Nah man, this aint the wii. Real next gen machines have to be just that and they know it. Force the power at initial loss but profit over time.
Baconsammy
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I'm sure they will offer a subsidized console. If it is $400 for the high end model, I would be very pleased. Anyways this is how I feel about next gen right now:
Choosing a Jet doesn't fill anyone with confidence. Next Gen will finish 6-10.
I dunno where to start with this.
I will say this though - far out? It better be finilazed by now if they want to launch this fall.
Proelite
Member
SALT.
AstroNut325
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Day by day the Xbox 540 is looking like a day 1 purchase for me!
Are you getting your latest info from the same people who made you think the next Xbox was coming out in 2012?
http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/13233/geis-new-microsoft-console-in-2012-halo-4-launch-title
Baconsammy
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I hate the Jets, I'm a Pats fan. But that was one of the best post game interviews I've heard. Plus they went to the AFC title game that year, but I'm not mad because they are the laughing stock of the league now.
systemfehler
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Does your source know anything about the competition like Sony aswell?
Elginer
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God I am so damn excited, this sounds fantastic. It really is going to be a torrent of leaks from here till announcement. I just want some insane OS features like music streaming while playing a game, a social feature like Mii-verse, screenshots and video capture of games, even if its small clips and Skype video chat in game.
Karak
Member
No sir.
Correct we will also see some leaks from partners not accustomed to the types of NDA's that games industry vets are as well. Some truly on accident others when asked.
-Pyromaniac-
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What a twist it would be if Sony manages to have the least leaks.
Can Crusher
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Jeff, if a 8000M is being used on consoles, and the fact that if the GPU on consoles is modified enough then it cannot be advertised in that slide, what does that tell us?
Maybe PS4 using a discrete 8000M chip?
Considering timelines and what we know, Sony entered into the AMD game a whole lot latter than MS did, and MS is trying the whole Xenos thing again (custom) then maybe it's not about 2 consoles but one?
Trying to follow your logic. In the slide it states that AMD radeon graphics are the tech of choice on consoles, which yeah....only PS3 didn't use it. And going forward every console will be based on Radeon tech.
Regarding the NDA, the embargo date was 17 december last year. So I don't see how that's relevant here(the nda).
Considering the top of the line M card doesn't even reach a theoretical 1T, then this doesn't seem like the main gpu of any of the consoles coming up, therefore it would be a discrete GPU and rumors don't point to Xbox having a discrete Gpu right? Leaving us with the PS4?
Maybe PS4 using a discrete 8000M chip?
Considering timelines and what we know, Sony entered into the AMD game a whole lot latter than MS did, and MS is trying the whole Xenos thing again (custom) then maybe it's not about 2 consoles but one?
Trying to follow your logic. In the slide it states that AMD radeon graphics are the tech of choice on consoles, which yeah....only PS3 didn't use it. And going forward every console will be based on Radeon tech.
Regarding the NDA, the embargo date was 17 december last year. So I don't see how that's relevant here(the nda).
Considering the top of the line M card doesn't even reach a theoretical 1T, then this doesn't seem like the main gpu of any of the consoles coming up, therefore it would be a discrete GPU and rumors don't point to Xbox having a discrete Gpu right? Leaving us with the PS4?
I would love to see a Sequel/Spiritual successor to Phantom Dust on the next box. They've already got the team in place pretty much working on Crimson Dragon.
A new Perfect Dark game would be nice too. Maybe even Deathrow sequel.
Be cool of MS published an new IP by Platinum as well at some point, or something new with Itagaki/Valhalla.
I don´t know if there will be an special event like the MTV showcase in 2005, but definitely Ms will announce the next Xbox before the E3.
The E3 is much larger and more influential, that´s for sure, but there the attention is divided between the three big, so if you want to build the hype and get the focus in your console, you are going to announce it prior to E3.
Honestly, I think that wait until E3 it´s ridiculous on marketing terms and not gonna happen.
Both PS4 and Xbox Infinity will be announced before E3 imo.
MakeMeFeelAlive
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I meant far out as in "official" leaks. Yes, im sure thst tbeybshould be fairly close to being finalized, if not already finalized. But there are no picture leaks from a factory, etc. which usually signal its almost finished. Whst about the "information" that ms was having severe problems with cpu and had to postpone launch. How do we trust this more than the other, or vice versa. At the eaiest, the system would be a full 10 to 11 months away. Just trying to keep things in perspective
Baconsammy
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If they do an unveiling, I doubt they'd use MTV. They've got a Live Event App now that works really well (when they do use it).
dragonelite
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Still beter then wii U......
Karak
Member
There is a pretty large stable of IP's they have and haven't flexed with tenacity this gen. I would like them to dig deep a bit.
And Xboxlive Prereveal for those on Xboxlive.
Except Microsoft have moved their entire focus away from industry events to unveiling stuff on their own time.
They will announce before E3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FruxOZ9Nfp0
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/7/3848868/amd-temash-hands-on-windows-gaming-on-a-1080p-tablet
This is dirt showdown running on high end temash which is 4 1.0 ghz jaguars with a very small GPU like 2-4 CUs for tablets/netbooks. Just to give everyone an idea on what we might see on next gen with twice the cores and 1.5 bump in CPU speed and many many more CUs and higher GPU clock and many times more bandwidth for the GPU.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/7/3848868/amd-temash-hands-on-windows-gaming-on-a-1080p-tablet
This is dirt showdown running on high end temash which is 4 1.0 ghz jaguars with a very small GPU like 2-4 CUs for tablets/netbooks. Just to give everyone an idea on what we might see on next gen with twice the cores and 1.5 bump in CPU speed and many many more CUs and higher GPU clock and many times more bandwidth for the GPU.
I guess it depends if the leaks are that interesting. Full specs and launch line-up would be awesome, more Wonderbook and Vita nothingness would not be worth holding on to.
-Pyromaniac-
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well I'm referring to PS4.
Leaks happen, but luckily for them they are building a powerful console so gamers are frothing at the mouth with these leaks. Good PR buzz if you ask me.
Hype
Proelite
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Biggest pile of bullshit. Recent technology does not automatically imply high cost.
Baconsammy
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We have a long history of being wrong. We said Neil Armstrong was a doofus that would overshoot the moon and burn up on the sun.
ummm
AllIsOneIsNone
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I said the opposite, but yes most of GAF was really underestimating things. This time consoles won't match pc power my ass. People basically laughed at me when I said next box would have a better gpu than my 6950.
Again, hopefully they have something worth leaking. Both MS and Sony pushing tech more will be better for gamers but on the off-chance Sony play it safe, then things really won't be worth leaking.
Heh. E3 gonna be fun this year..
lol
I'm also in the boat that thinks MS is definitely going to announce before E3. That way when they do announce, its their own show and they get 100% of the attention. Then they will ride that hype train into E3 and show even more of the console at the keynote, and unveil more and more about the system, carrot on a stick so to speak.
I do not think Sony has had plans to announce PS4 before E3. I think they likely have an option to announce 'something" at E3 ... depending on what MS is doing. I think ultimately Sony is not going to "announce" PS4 at E3. They will have a PS3 conference and show lots of titles for Vita and other features.. then at the end of the press conference they will "hint" at something big about to change to generate some buzz and try to distract everyone from MS and the new Xbox at E3.
Then depending how much hype the new Xbox has generated ,and IF MS is releasing it Holiday 2013... Sony will likely then announce the PS4 sometime in August or at TGS or something just before the xbox launch to try again to divert attention and slow the train down. I base all of this on my feeling that Sony is in no way launching a new console in 2013, I feel its 2014.
I do not think Sony has had plans to announce PS4 before E3. I think they likely have an option to announce 'something" at E3 ... depending on what MS is doing. I think ultimately Sony is not going to "announce" PS4 at E3. They will have a PS3 conference and show lots of titles for Vita and other features.. then at the end of the press conference they will "hint" at something big about to change to generate some buzz and try to distract everyone from MS and the new Xbox at E3.
Then depending how much hype the new Xbox has generated ,and IF MS is releasing it Holiday 2013... Sony will likely then announce the PS4 sometime in August or at TGS or something just before the xbox launch to try again to divert attention and slow the train down. I base all of this on my feeling that Sony is in no way launching a new console in 2013, I feel its 2014.
cyberheater
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Yes. Yes it will.
1 core + 1.5GB for OS sounds more reasonable. I'm still concerned about the bandwidth, which could cripple the use of all this memory.
Just look at the Wii-U with it's pathetic amount of bandwidth. There would be little point in shrinking the OS with that system since you wouldn't be able to use it all for gaming.
These specs really aren't too good to be true. It'll be a huge leap compared to the PS360, but nowhere near the performance we see in today's top-end gaming rigs.
8 Jaguar cores isn't something too huge, 8GB of memory is likely to be DDR4, and the GPU isn't going to be top of the line.
SMH...
BTW we knew the specs of the 360 in June of 2004.
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