DukeSilverHaze
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Senate votes to let internet providers share your browsing history without permission
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Officerrob
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The "internet" knows how to handle this, I suspect someone who voted yes will have their history exposed in the not too distant future
Getting a VPN service probably puts you on a watch list of some sort. Wasn't that the case with that TOR browser? I seem to remember reading something that even googling it would get you listed with some government agency, although it could have just been bullshit.
Anyway, the GOP is governing like they're never going to be in power again. Or never out of power again, which is probably just as likely.
Anyway, the GOP is governing like they're never going to be in power again. Or never out of power again, which is probably just as likely.
Just_myles
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What's funny is that in a sense, it does. I'm saying this not knowing if you are being sarcastic or not.
I personally don't like the idea of this but, we knew this was coming once the new administration took over and Adjit is basically working against consumers from the get go.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Google and to a lesser extent Facebook do have a policy and rules in place for using your information.
I'm OK with google being the middleman to target advertising, as long as google maintains the middle-ware to achieve that, and not give the information directly to the advertisers. Google has an interest in keeping your data private too, as it's more valuable to them to continue to sell advertising then to sell it wholesale.
In other words, as long as an advertiser can go to google, and say "I want to target people who search for potatoes" and not "I want a list of users who search for potatoes". The distinction is important.
Just_myles
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Wow. I had to read that a few times and I think that is on the money. However, they of course, would like to see the fruits of their well spent money and be provided a user list. I think the precedent has already been created. Don't know how to go back without upsetting advertisers. Google already in enough trouble with youtube.
chrisPjelly
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I don't know what's more digusting, them rifling through our porn or them selling our interests and habits.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
THE FUCK
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Not a D in sight
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Gonna start getting my all of my porn at fucktheGOP.com from now on.
Not a D in sight
There's probably a couple in their search histories though.....
I'll see my way out for that terrible joke
Earthbound64
Banned
Do people really think "Incognito"/"InPrivate"/"Invisible Browsing"/etc. ever did anything beyond hiding what you were doing from a parent/relative/spouse who didn't know how to look through router logs? It essentially doesn't do anything against anyone who's not actually using your browser on your computer.
Maybe this is a good wake-up call for people about all the stuff they've been sharing for the past 20 years that they didn't know they were sharing.
Well, whitehouse.com used to be a porn website.
SaviourMK2
Member
Any bets on how many of these people's internet history involves prostitutes, money laundering and child porn?
rokkerkory
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Great job
Dominican Power
Member
Another instance of The Republican Party selling America out.
The EFF and the ACLU. Also, vote democrat in the next election.
Edit: Oh. You meant that kind.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Asking again here, is this just HTTP data? What level of actual internet data does this open up? How many hours I spend on Overwatch? Which Steam games I download?
Can't find a single democrat rep. in that list.
jellies_two
Member
They will potentially be logging against "your account" every dns lookup, every URL that isn't https. Even if you use an external dns server they can still log the full URL by inspection of traffic. Unless it's https in which case they can log the time and IP address.
Whether they can sell this data tied to your physical address and name isn't clear that seems to me to be ridiculous - it means private investigators can buy it (for example). If they can't sell it with your identity they could sell access to it to advertising networks so they can tailor ads.
But if they sell access to it that way then sooner or later that will be cross referenced with your offline identity and files will accumumlate whether legal or illegal. So apply for insurance online? Maybe they will check what web pages on chronic diseases your street address or IP address has been looking at in the last 3 months.
It's disgusting.
Whether they can sell this data tied to your physical address and name isn't clear that seems to me to be ridiculous - it means private investigators can buy it (for example). If they can't sell it with your identity they could sell access to it to advertising networks so they can tailor ads.
But if they sell access to it that way then sooner or later that will be cross referenced with your offline identity and files will accumumlate whether legal or illegal. So apply for insurance online? Maybe they will check what web pages on chronic diseases your street address or IP address has been looking at in the last 3 months.
It's disgusting.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
No need for porn anymore since they are already fucking us!
HoodWinked
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isnt this bill just to roll back the regulation that was signed at the start of 2017. so isnt it disingenuous to say congress cleared the way when ISPs were free to do this from 2016 and before?
also what prevents someone from buying up the histories of those who signed this bill so they could use their histories against them? i legitimately want to know what this means without the hyperbole.
was the original regulation signed in January as a political move because they expected it to get repealed so that it could be used against the opposition.
also what prevents someone from buying up the histories of those who signed this bill so they could use their histories against them? i legitimately want to know what this means without the hyperbole.
was the original regulation signed in January as a political move because they expected it to get repealed so that it could be used against the opposition.
I saw a couple people in this thread mentioning Tor. The US government helps fund Tor so I find it kind of amusing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)
Although I do find this vote result awful, at least ask me before you sell my information anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)
Although I do find this vote result awful, at least ask me before you sell my information anyway.
Flying Toaster
Member
So are ISP's going to lower rates?
No.
This is stupid shit then.
No.
This is stupid shit then.
7DollarHagane
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One thing I wondered about this is the "giving permission" part under the old rules.
Does this just mean that we agreed to "give permission" under the old rules by agreeing to some terms of service that was 45 pages long and nobody reads? Basically if you want to use our service, you give permission to share your browsing history details?
Does this just mean that we agreed to "give permission" under the old rules by agreeing to some terms of service that was 45 pages long and nobody reads? Basically if you want to use our service, you give permission to share your browsing history details?
CrispyBoar
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FFS. They've given me no choice to but to use VPN's now.
Aren't there any 3rd party VPN's that exist?
Aren't there any 3rd party VPN's that exist?
Earthbound64
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Dangansona
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Hundreds unless I misunderstand the question.
7DollarHagane
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I wonder if this will remove some of the anonymity people have online as well - maybe all of those alt-righter frog people who browse hate sites and pony porn or whatever they look at will have that exposed and shamed? Idk. trying to see an upside.
Yeah, did ISPs do this before the Obama regulation was signed?
Also, what time frame of history is available to them? If you have been on your ISP for 10 years, do they have logs for that complete 10 year span?
Maybe. All I know is if I start seeing ads based on incognito browsing I will be concerned.
Everything that's not encrypted is up for grabs. For properly encrypted data, access would be limited to the metadata (i.e., which servers you were connected to and when/how much/frequently data was sent).
PyroPaperPlanes
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1984 comes closer to reality, one day at a time
Until the Republicans outlaw that in some anti terrorism law.
Nope. Unless these or ISP or advertisers start giving away for free ALTRIGHTWEEB69420 or similar such accounts browsing history.
Look to see if you can reflash your router's firmware with DD-WRT. Then from there, the world is your oyster.
Edit for clarification: When I say look to see if you can reflash your router's firmware, I mean check to see if it's on DD-WRT's list of supported routers
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
So I wonder if its retroactive, I imagine ISPs have been collecting our shit for years and now they just got the okay to dump it on the biggest buyers?
Earthbound64
Banned
You might not see ads for them - since that relies on websites sharing cookies, which incognito does block.
But, the FBI / CIA / Your neighbor on the town council is going to know the sick (and not so sick) stuff that you're into.
Yes that was always true, but IPs werent peddling that info
Tye The Czar
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For what programs can ISPs see our browsing history for? It can't be just regular web browsers can it?
Trailblazer34
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Loving that party of small government. Small enough to fit in vaginas and web servers!
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