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they should put a phone in the vita, it's the size of one of those android phones.
Might AS WELL
Might AS WELL
Nintendo DS having 36% despite being now a dead platform would be mighty impressive.Agreed. Thankfully, consumers are in agreement. Android and iPhone revenues are in a freefall as we speak:
Agreed. Thankfully, consumers are in agreement. Android and iPhone revenues are in a freefall as we speak:
Nails it.
what the fuck is this shit?
Speaking of which, I think iPad 2 is going to have a rough year. Apple priced it at $499, which is over $200 more than the KitchenAid stand mixer.
Nintendo's price cut was a genius move.
Agreed. Thankfully, consumers are in agreement. Android and iPhone revenues are in a freefall as we speak:
I honestly figured this would be the case. It was just the first chart I could find via a Google search, and I know people love graphics.The chart has been discredited about a billion times on this forum. You've got 2 dead handhelds in there, and the dubious grouping of all the iOS and Android software combined.
That's still a gross underestimation. If 3DS managed to sell well over half of 20 million in LESS than a year - of which at least 5-6 months were months during which it struggled to sell well - then even the most modest estimate for 3DS LTD sales after about three years in the market should be about 30-35 million, assuming it sells at the same-ish pace it has been selling so far.Article never said that. It clearly states 3DS will sell "at leat" 20 million.
This is simply not true. My godson and his little brother played Angry Birds on their father's smartphone (for awhile), yeah, but they got a 3DS + Mario Kart 7 & Super Mario 3D Land as christmas presents and they were really excited about it (so excited that they couldn't wait to get home & charge up their own 3DS, but had to play my copy of SM3D on my 3DS, which I had with me)Age of dedicated handhelds is over. Kids will not care for Mario anymore, they'll grow up with crap like Angry Birds.
But what if it never even took any marketshare away from dedicated handhelds? It has probably taken some, but what if, like, 80-90% of people who play on smartphones are people who would never have even gotten a handheld, so they've expanded the market into a new direction instead of eaten away marketshare from dedicated devices.Basically, my point is that the sentiment that smartphone gaming is some garbage fad that will die and give the market back to dedicated gaming handhelds seems silly to me, even if I actually do believe there's still a place for dedicated gaming handhelds. I'll see if a better chart exists. Real work can wait, I suppose.
Agreed. Thankfully, consumers are in agreement. Android and iPhone revenues are in a freefall as we speak:
The chart has been discredited about a billion times on this forum. You've got 2 dead handhelds in there, and the dubious grouping of all the iOS and Android software combined. It also doesn't represent how the portable market in its entirety expanded.
Its not about being a phone idiot, its about reality. And the article did state that hadhelds are more popular in Japan compared to rest of the world where phone gaming is getting more and more popular. Soon PSV and 3DS type handhelds will be irrelevant.Putting an arbitrary number so low proves they really don't know what they're talking about. Me saying "Vita will sell at least 1 unit", doesn't sound as impressive if I were to say, Vita will sell above 40 million units.
Also, thanks for admitting you're one of phone idiots as well. Mario 3D Land's above 1 million units in Japan, and will likely outgross the revenue the Angry Birds smart phone games have made by the end of 2011.
The hardware is fairly cheap, no idea what's Forbes ragging on there, but the games are definitely expensive. Especially so in a mind state of today's mobile game buyer.
Article never said that. It clearly states 3DS will sell "at leat" 20 million.
You guys are raging over the inevitable. The article is correct, PSV needs a price drop. Age of dedicated handhelds is over. Kids will not care for Mario anymore, they'll grow up with crap like Angry Birds.
It's like saying people will stop buying Canons and Nikons now that mobile phones have a camera. There might be some overlap, sure. But there still is a market for high end professional photo cameras. Same thing rings true for dedicated gaming handhelds.
Of course they are.They are doomed since 2006.
Vita has a couple of Square Enix IPs already too + they'll get the better deal with Metal Gear Solid (the "HD" Collection, not just an overpriced, crappy & gimped MGS3)And the Resident Evils, the Metal Gears Solids and the new Square Enix Ips...
I'm trying to decide whether that or the "cut Vita's price to well below 20,000 yen" part is dumber. Considering the fact that 3DS has almost certainly crossed 10 million by now, I think I should go with the former.
They are probably hoping that the memcards will be their money-grabbing venue.Nintendo's price cut was a genius move. People are completely fixated on the 3DS' current price point and expect Sony to do the same while ignoring the difference in specs. Don't think Sony can afford to drop the price for at least a year, but they should really bundle a 4 GB memory card with the Vita so that people don't have to spend more just to run a game. Not offering a mem card is such a terrible move.
Agreed. Thankfully, consumers are in agreement. Android and iPhone revenues are in a freefall as we speak:
They can break even quickly with a redesign if it ever happens. It may have been a desperate move but it negatively affects the Vita. What Sony should do now is add more value to the system to entice buyers.OH C'MON! It was a fucking desperate move, nothing genius about it.
The point is, in terms of revenue, it hasn't even become that of a fad yet.I honestly figured this would be the case. It was just the first chart I could find via a Google search, and I know people love graphics.
Basically, my point is that the sentiment that smartphone gaming is some garbage fad that will die and give the market back to dedicated gaming handhelds seems silly to me, even if I actually do believe there's still a place for dedicated gaming handhelds. I'll see if a better chart exists. Real work can wait, I suppose.
2001, according to Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/2001/01/25/0125disaster.html
3DS has sold over 4 million in Japan alone. 3m in both EU and NA doesn't seem too far-fetched, does it?Any evidence of it hitting 10 million? If it has crossed the 10 million barrier, it isn't outrageous to have it get somewhat close to the 16 mil by March.
Sony has approached the PS Vita launch in America with arrogance, pricing the console and games high while opting to debut the device during the slow retail month of February.
Nintendo's price cut was a genius move. People are completely fixated on the 3DS' current price point and expect Sony to do the same while ignoring the difference in specs. Don't think Sony can afford to drop the price for at least a year, but they should really bundle a 4 GB memory card with the Vita so that people don't have to spend more just to run a game. Not offering a mem card is such a terrible move.
Out of curiosity, how has it been discredited? And how is the DS "dead"? I still see games being made for it and selling. Especially for the past 2-3 years?
Its not about being a phone idiot, its about reality. And the article did state that hadhelds are more popular in Japan compared to rest of the world where phone gaming is getting more and more popular. Soon PSV and 3DS type handhelds will be irrelevant.
I know you're angry, calm down a bit.
Even if 3DS and Vita both sold 200 million units that'd still be a temporary illusion according to Forbes.
Article never said that. It clearly states 3DS will sell "at leat" 20 million.
You guys are raging over the inevitable. The article is correct, PSV needs a price drop. Age of dedicated handhelds is over. Kids will not care for Mario anymore, they'll grow up with crap like Angry Birds.
That was err... interesting.2001, according to Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/2001/01/25/0125disaster.html
Out of curiosity, how has it been discredited? And how is the DS "dead"? I still see games being made for it and selling. Especially for the past 2-3 years?
Its not about being a phone idiot, its about reality. And the article did state that hadhelds are more popular in Japan compared to rest of the world where phone gaming is getting more and more popular. Soon PSV and 3DS type handhelds will be irrelevant.
I know you're angry, calm down a bit.
Super Mario 3D Land had sold 500k copies in the couple of weeks after its release in North America too, it's probably sold a lot more in the weeks building up to Christmas as parents get their kids 3DSs and Marios. So... It's not like 3DS is unpopular in the west either.Its not about being a phone idiot, its about reality. And the article did state that hadhelds are more popular in Japan compared to rest of the world where phone gaming is getting more and more popular. Soon PSV and 3DS type handhelds will be irrelevant.