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Star Citizen Alpha 2.0 | The 'Verse Awakens

Danthrax

Batteries the CRISIS!
Bunch of ass men in here. I approve, actually.

Every man is an ass man. Some of them just don't know it yet.


Buccaneer photo album: http://imgur.com/a/HAfth

Here are a few - lots more in there:

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ugh, dat radar, so good

so legible
 

Patrick S.

Banned
Got an invite for the PTU and was eager to try it, but I got a blue screen a couple of minutes into the installation. Is this common?
 

Zalusithix

Member
Got an invite for the PTU and was eager to try it, but I got a blue screen a couple of minutes into the installation. Is this common?

No. Blue screens are never normal; they're a symptom of something being wrong with your computer. Could be unstable drivers, faulty hardware, or overzealous overclocking, but they shouldn't happen while playing SC, let alone installing it.
 

Patrick S.

Banned
No. Blue screens are never normal; they're a symptom of something being wrong with your computer. Could be unstable drivers, faulty hardware, or overzealous overclocking, but they shouldn't happen while playing SC, let alone installing it.

Hmmm, my PC is overclocked, but I've played six hours of Mass Effect Andromeda and an hour or so of Assetto Corsa with the current OC settings, I don't think an installer should cause a BSOD if I can play games without error? I googled the particular error, something to do with a crash in "wdf01000.sys", on Win 10 64bit, but didn't really find a solution.
 

Zalusithix

Member
Hmmm, my PC is overclocked, but I've played six hours of Mass Effect Andromeda and an hour or so of Assetto Corsa with the current OC settings, I don't think an installer should cause a BSOD if I can play games without error? I googled the particular error, something to do with a crash in "wdf01000.sys", on Win 10 64bit, but didn't really find a solution.

You're probably not going to find anything for that particular error if it's OC related. OC instability can cause just about anything to become a "cause" of a BSOD.

The thing with overclocking is that the errors aren't necessarily easily reproducible, and "stable" is a relative term. You can have a mem-tested system stable for 48 hours of stress testing (OCCT/Linpack/P95 - not running a game for a few hours), but will randomly lock up or crash after weeks of uptime doing something incredibly minor. It's the price paid for pushing hardware.
 

Patrick S.

Banned
You're probably not going to find anything for that particular error if it's OC related. OC instability can cause just about anything to become a "cause" of a BSOD.

The thing with overclocking is that the errors aren't necessarily easily reproducible, and "stable" is a relative term. You can have a mem-tested system stable for 48 hours of stress testing (OCCT/Linpack/P95 - not running a game for a few hours), but will randomly lock up or crash after weeks of uptime doing something incredibly minor. It's the price paid for pushing hardware.

Yeah, makes sense. I'll raise vcore a little and try again. Fingers crossed!
 

JCH!

Member
Just tried this after ages (read: Arena Commander had just released) and I am completely blown away.

I wasn't really paying attention to the game anymore and now my hype levels are maxed again.
 

Raticus79

Seek victory, not fairness
TrackIR support? So this will be next update for normal backers? TrackIR is kind of my baseline for trying to put any significant time into this game.

It's in the 2.6.2 PTU now - should go live within a few weeks. (timing always varies depending on how many bugs come up)
 
TrackIR finally works again!



It is though highly funky walking around. View moves around but head stays in space so you see through the sides of the helmet while the HUD stays front.
 
The Buccaneer canopy reminds me of an ant eater.. its way too long but the rest of the ship looks really good. Id have to say i prefer this one over the Super Hornet.. much more fun to fly and easier to get in and out of when you're exploring.



another thing im noticing is that with every new patch the LOD on space stations seems to get worse.

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Akronis

Member
Hmmm, my PC is overclocked, but I've played six hours of Mass Effect Andromeda and an hour or so of Assetto Corsa with the current OC settings, I don't think an installer should cause a BSOD if I can play games without error? I googled the particular error, something to do with a crash in "wdf01000.sys", on Win 10 64bit, but didn't really find a solution.

wdf01000.sys is the kernal driver framework for the OS. Some hardware driver is fucking up your PC.
 
TrackIR back makes it look so much better. The problem still remains, and it's even more frustrating, that the core flight is so bad. It looks so immersive and amazing until you look up and see a ship "flying" doing pirouettes like it has no mass.


Just spend more than one patch a year working on the flight model, pls. It's the only thing holding the experience back for me.
 
I actually find the bucaneer to be nearly erotic looking. For some reason I just adore the drake design. Very X wing with its edges... :X
 

iHaunter

Member
TrackIR back makes it look so much better. The problem still remains, and it's even more frustrating, that the core flight is so bad. It looks so immersive and amazing until you look up and see a ship "flying" doing pirouettes like it has no mass.


Just spend more than one patch a year working on the flight model, pls. It's the only thing holding the experience back for me.

For me it's the janky ship animations.

Like entering a ship or walking around in it.
 
For me it's the janky ship animations.

Like entering a ship or walking around in it.

The quick jerk and those 1 or 2 frames of complete disorientation between hard animatoin transitions are the biggest visual problem in the game atm. They always look terrible as teh screen seems to freeze and spin quickly to engage the animation. Although, it always seems like the first 1 or 2 frames of the animation being played are messed up anyway.

I hope they come up with a solution to that, as it is incredibly disorienting and visually very unpleasing.
 

Raticus79

Seek victory, not fairness
I'm going to pick up one of these monitors: (ASUS PG258Q)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233271308&postcount=898

It's a 1080p TN monitor with GSYNC that can go up to 240 FPS. The big selling point for me was the ability to maintain normal brightness in strobing backlight (ULMB) mode, so you get that CRT-like motion quality without having to deal with a dim monitor.

When I first tried out strobing backlight, it was on the VG278H with the Lightboost hack. On that one, it's a similar situation where the backlight is strong enough to maintain normal brightness in that mode. I gave that one to a relative when I replaced it with a ROG Swift (PG278Q), but the ULMB mode on that was so dim that I never used it. I had been keeping an eye out for other options and I was actually thinking of picking up a VG278H again, but the hack was a bit of a pain sometimes. Fortunately the PG258Q came along.

Passing the word along in case anyone else was looking for something similar.
 

Zabojnik

Member
Thanks, but TN can go die in a fire. Upgrading to a budget-ish 27" 1440p 75hz IPS as we speak. Temporary monitor and the last stop before HDR ultrawide, hopefully next year.
 

iHaunter

Member
The quick jerk and those 1 or 2 frames of complete disorientation between hard animatoin transitions are the biggest visual problem in the game atm. They always look terrible as teh screen seems to freeze and spin quickly to engage the animation. Although, it always seems like the first 1 or 2 frames of the animation being played are messed up anyway.

I hope they come up with a solution to that, as it is incredibly disorienting and visually very unpleasing.

That and walking around in ships with clipping.

But once they tackle those, golden.
 

chifanpoe

Member
Thanks, but TN can go die in a fire. Upgrading to a budget-ish 27" 1440p 75hz IPS as we speak. Temporary monitor and the last stop before HDR ultrawide, hopefully next year.

I did that January of last year. Went with a 27" 1440p 120hz VA panel from Korea. Works great and only cost me $220 shipped. I have a 4k LG OLED HDR as well but with a PC connected it will only do 60hz.
 

Zabojnik

Member
I have a Qnix, model = QX2710LED. With HDMI or Displayport I can hit 84 - 96hz overclocks with DVI I can get 120hz overclocks. Most of the time I use Displayport at 84 as it tends to stick when I upgrade display drivers.
Ah yes, the legendary Qnix. I was actually looking at a used 2710 earlier, can be had for about 200€. Tempting, but I'm leaning towards a new Iiyama XUB2792QSU for 150€ more. Warranty, better panel, a proper stand, no input lag, better looking (no glossy plastics). Can't be overclocked, but I'm okay with 70hz for now.
 

Zalusithix

Member
Holy cow, that geometry.

SC ships do have a lot of geo (especially at the highest LOD), but a lot of the detail is from POM. They touched on that aspect in the latest ATV.

1NL5SXN.png

All the white / light grey areas are POM details giving the illusion of actual geo.
 

Xane

Member
SC ships do have a lot of geo (especially at the highest LOD), but a lot of the detail is from POM. They touched on that aspect in the latest ATV.

1NL5SXN.png

All the white / light grey areas are POM details giving the illusion of actual geo.

Oh, I'm more than well aware of that. Was simply amazed of the lighting and geometry in that screenshot. Really brings the ship to shine.
 

Zalusithix

Member
Oh, I'm more than well aware of that. Was simply amazed of the lighting and geometry in that screenshot. Really brings the ship to shine.

If nothing else, SC is great for space ship porn. =) While there's plenty of things that could be nitpicked about the practical design of many of the ships, the attention to detail is undeniable.

And speaking of ships, mercenar1e's shot of the Cutlass there will probably be one of the last of that version for the thread. Looking forward to the new Cutlass tomorrow. (Assuming they actually push it out and not just "reveal" it.)
 

chifanpoe

Member
If nothing else, SC is great for space ship porn. =) While there's plenty of things that could be nitpicked about the practical design of many of the ships, the attention to detail is undeniable.

And speaking of ships, mercenar1e's shot of the Cutlass there will probably be one of the last of that version for the thread. Looking forward to the new Cutlass tomorrow. (Assuming they actually push it out and not just "reveal" it.)

I blame Zalu if all we get is Cutlass JPGs tomorrow.
 
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