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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The first victim from Bungie's judicial hammer. Who's next?
GetInTheRobot
Banned
It was probably building to be closer to the division than just an extended team death match mode.
MiguelItUp
Member
I mean, considering the news that's come to surface over the last week and some change, I think it's fair to assume it's probably dead. Only time well tell until we get an actual word.
Ulysses 31
Member
balls of snow
Member
Same lesson over and over again, predominantly sp devs cannot and should not be making a gaas game. Bioware learn it with Anthem; Crystal Dynamics with Avengers; Arkane with Redfall and now Naughty Dog.
The best gaas were always from studios that already were good at mp. Bungie, epic, Respawn, once upon a time Blizzard.
The best gaas were always from studios that already were good at mp. Bungie, epic, Respawn, once upon a time Blizzard.
Represent.
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semiconscious
Member
'insider claims', imo, is right up there with 'expert claims'...
wipeout364
Member
Does anybody really think Naughty Dog could support a games as service product? It would have been a disaster and content starved, similar to what happened with Halo. This isn't the PS3 era; you can't just drop a multiplayer game and then not be aggressive in supporting it.
TransTrender
Gold Member
How 'bout you guys make a fucking game? Like....a new one, even a sequel, just make a game.
LectureMaster
Member
When they announced TLOU 1 remake, some sources claimed it was because Naughty Dog just had underutilized resources/manpower between two big projects so they went ahead did the remake.
WTF is this shit now? Now all your input is squandered.
Just fucking focus on what you do best, and bring back Uncharted!
WTF is this shit now? Now all your input is squandered.
Just fucking focus on what you do best, and bring back Uncharted!
kaizenkko
Member
The real point is: all the news around this project just a few days after Jimbo's retirement means something?
Time will tell the true, but I hope the good old Sony is back. And Naughty Dog, well, they will probably get the devs back to crunch in order to delivery at least one game this gen.
Time will tell the true, but I hope the good old Sony is back. And Naughty Dog, well, they will probably get the devs back to crunch in order to delivery at least one game this gen.
bitbydeath
Member
It’s possible but apparently their best prediction was:
Putonahappyface
Member
Putonahappyface
Member
tmlDan
Member
They are, that's likely why the mp game is dying. They are working on too many projects at once, if rumors are true the new IP will be announced this year (prob not true)
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BouncyFrag
Member
Bungies involvement in this is so weird.
Sleepwalker
Member
Good riddance if true
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
Great
GHG
Member
The timing of all of this along with the announcement of Jim Ryan's exit can't be a coincidence.
This is all a royal fuck up and like I said before he even announced he was stepping down, it's a stackable offense.
If Hulst is also culpable in all of this then he needs to be next and kept away from any critical decision making going forwards.
This is all a royal fuck up and like I said before he even announced he was stepping down, it's a stackable offense.
If Hulst is also culpable in all of this then he needs to be next and kept away from any critical decision making going forwards.
FearlessBelgian
Member
Dead like TLOU2 was.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Yep, do it like Respawn did with Apex Legends, stealth drop day one. After launch, sustain the shit out of the content.
GHG
Member
Yep, it takes a sizable team being on it full time in order to keep the hamster wheel going.
I say fuck the hamster wheels, burn them down before they get built.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Topher
Gold Member
Respawn had years of experience with this stuff doing Call of Duty long before Apex Legends.
Wastelander92
Member
Good, go back to SP games.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
True. I was more at the aspect of how they announced the game. No one even knew it was in production and then bam released to the public as F2P. It created a viral download frenzy and userbase beyond just "ex COD devs" make a new F2P FPS. I'd say these sorts of releases are far better in the gamers' mindshare than TLOU factions bouncing around the rumour mill and then allegedly cancelled.
EDIT: At least with a stealth production cancellations would be moot in the public eye.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Fractions are enjoyed by many, but maybe they got a bit too ambiguous and now they're suffering the consequences. The thing I was worried about is that they would deviate too far from the original formula.
I believe the multiplayer has enough potential not to be completely abandoned. The game was probably due out in 2024 until the Bungie thing hit.
If Last of Us Part III is in development, then they'll probably just package it with that and try to recover the cost.
Hugare
Member
Nailed it
Also Rocksteady with Suicide Squad (we dont even need to wait unil launch)
Thats why the whole Sony pushing for GAAS thing is a disaster.
Flutta
Banned
It's The Last Gardian all over again.
6 years of working on Faction a stand alone MP game. Really want to know what went wrong here? Their plan to nickel and dime failed? But how... makes little sense to cancel 6 years work just because some MTX issues? They can always add that shit later. Makes me think they've tried different concept and always falling short in the end... systems not working as expected, gameplay loop not fun enough, too many cooks fighting over ideas to implement etc etc. Looks like they've over complicated things for themselves.
What a mess lol.
Don't think w'll see anything from ND this gen. Maybe w'll get something at the end before PS6 but i doubt it. They've wasted too much time working on this MP shite.
6 years of working on Faction a stand alone MP game. Really want to know what went wrong here? Their plan to nickel and dime failed? But how... makes little sense to cancel 6 years work just because some MTX issues? They can always add that shit later. Makes me think they've tried different concept and always falling short in the end... systems not working as expected, gameplay loop not fun enough, too many cooks fighting over ideas to implement etc etc. Looks like they've over complicated things for themselves.
What a mess lol.
Don't think w'll see anything from ND this gen. Maybe w'll get something at the end before PS6 but i doubt it. They've wasted too much time working on this MP shite.