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Trump advisor Flynn discussed sanctions w/ Russia before inauguration, despite denial
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Do you really need anything but that cover image to troll him though
What, wait! That's not treason. They were having a friendly chat about golf or something. It's building rapport with Russia and that's something the people wanted, yes? Peace with Russia? No more bullying by the US? Being a friend of Putin is an asset and everything?
No, that guy deserves a medal. Or a flight ticket to Moscow to escape the FBI agents. And hand him a small metal case with cyanide in it, too. You never know when you'll need it.
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Was mentioned as breaking news on CNN, looking for in-writing on that.
Same time rubber is meeting the road even more now? Official: Flynn Discussed Sanctions With Russians Before Taking Office: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ssed-sanctions-russians-taking-office-n719271
Edit: Could be CNN referred to this;
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/830057109094092800
A Trump administration official says national security adviser Michael Flynn "can't be certain" that sanctions did not come up in his discussions with Russia's ambassador to the United States.
The official says Flynn has "no recollection" of discussing the sanctions, but left open the prospect that the issue did come up when he spoke with Sergey Kislyak during the transition.
Source: https://www.apnews.com/f9b33b5db455...low&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics
Sounds like he did talk...
The official says Flynn has "no recollection" of discussing the sanctions, but left open the prospect that the issue did come up when he spoke with Sergey Kislyak during the transition.
Source: https://www.apnews.com/f9b33b5db455...low&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics
Sounds like he did talk...
Azure Dream
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But I mean, what even is "illegal", right? Just an honest mistake, surely. Gosh, give them some slack.
Now let's go imagine some new crimes for Hillary Clinton to lock her up.
Carpe Carnim
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I would like to believe some sliver of the GOP wants to start picking off his sycophants one by one to keep the stories on the medias' radar, but that's probably just wishful thinking and these leaks are the IC giving Trump's cult enough rope to hang themselves with.
BoboBrazil
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What's he going to do about it?
Nothing? If you don't count sweeping this under the rug asap.
BronsonLee
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slowly guide Flynn onto the sword
BoboBrazil
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That's my point. Trump won't fire Flynn. He didn't fire Bannon. He won't do anything to Conway. He's extremely loyal to people that supported him during his campaign.
Earthstrike
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Pence walking back and distancing from Flynn. This is a bad sign for the republicans is it not? I can't help but imagine other intelligence agencies will be ready to leak if the FBI tries any bullshit to cover this up.
BronsonLee
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Pence: Hey Flynn I have something sharp I want to show you
Trump: Mikey no
Pence: Bitch go sign something I got this
Trump: Mikey no
Pence: Bitch go sign something I got this
So we know for a fact Flynn has committed two offences.
He talked to Russia about the sanctions while Obama was still President, which violates the Logan Act. There are recordings of this.
Then, he lied publicly about it. He also either lied to the Vice President or Pence is lying too.
The interesting thing is that it makes no sense for Flynn to have acted this way on his own initiative. It only comes to proving how far up this goes. (In my belief, it's clearly from Trump but the proof is the thing).
Flynn must immediately resign at the very least. (I'd prefer the FBI to arrest him, of course, but they seem to be compromised and unwilling to do their job). He appears to be being lined up to be a sacrifice in any case.
He talked to Russia about the sanctions while Obama was still President, which violates the Logan Act. There are recordings of this.
Then, he lied publicly about it. He also either lied to the Vice President or Pence is lying too.
The interesting thing is that it makes no sense for Flynn to have acted this way on his own initiative. It only comes to proving how far up this goes. (In my belief, it's clearly from Trump but the proof is the thing).
Flynn must immediately resign at the very least. (I'd prefer the FBI to arrest him, of course, but they seem to be compromised and unwilling to do their job). He appears to be being lined up to be a sacrifice in any case.
No t-shirts, but he does have pins and stickers.
ugaboga232
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Didn't the article say they have been talking since before the election? That, while not damning by itself, given all the other actions Russia was taking, is a lead to follow.
Felix Lighter
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I imagine Flynn is fucked. In a dream scenario, he'd make a deal with the FBI. In reality, he'll resign and duck away and no charges will be brought against him.
BlastProcessing
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If the FBI could flip Flynn... that would be amazing.
But yeah, the best case scenario here is that Flynn resigns and ends up pulling down a sizeable cable news paycheck.
We just call them Republicans
Trump's big mouth also damns him here. It was around this time as Flynn illegally discussed the sanctions with Russia that Trump made tweets saying how smart Putin was to not react to the fresh sanctions, and then saying to him to hold out till Jan. 20th. (Was that only three weeks ago? It feels like three years).
It's probably why the leaks are coming out. The FBI leadership clearly is in Trumps camp (and why not, he doesn't want to talk about criminal justice reform). So, leak this now so that the admin can see through media that Flynn needs to be jettisoned before he taints anyone else higher up.
This feels like a nice backrub by Comey to Trump and especially Pence.
And this mother fucker felt the need to send that god damned letter to Congress over a nothing sandwich.
Right, but Trump will say he had zero knowledge Flynn was doing this behind his back. No way Flynn is going to point fingers. He'll just duck out and Congress/FBI won't do shit if he retires. Or Trump could pardon/commute his dumb ass Scooter Libby style.
Oh, sure. It's not evidence in anything but the court of public opinion. But boy does it all line up.
Damn, never thought of that. Sucks, I want them all to go down.
jellies_two
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GOP strategy
1. Pence is spotless
2. If anyone else wants to put a posse together then whatevs
3. Go to 1
1. Pence is spotless
2. If anyone else wants to put a posse together then whatevs
3. Go to 1
Tie Flynn to Bannon, kill two birds with one stone. Trump is reliant on both, and without them, he's exposed to the establishment that's freaking out. They want a sedated, declawed Trump and Bannon and Flynn ousters would secure that.
Stop him tweeting and he'll lose all his power over his base, and then they can get back to normal institutionalized evil.
The above is a dream scenario but is plausible.
Stop him tweeting and he'll lose all his power over his base, and then they can get back to normal institutionalized evil.
The above is a dream scenario but is plausible.
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Am I correct in thinking that, if Pence is lying whatsoever, then if Flynn gets kicked out, Flynn will threaten to take down Pence with him?
If any of the deception evidenced here is true, Pence could be royally fucked.
If any of the deception evidenced here is true, Pence could be royally fucked.
Followed by Bannon as VP
I wouldn't expect Flynn to make fuss if he needs to take the fall, but if Pence is lying and investigation finds proof of this then Pence is reaaaally fucked.
BronsonLee
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If I'm Pence I just sit and wait
He could become President by not having to do anything except get booed at Hamilton
He could become President by not having to do anything except get booed at Hamilton
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From what I understand - and admittedly I've only started to pay attention to this stuff in the last few days - Flynn seems like he's been carefully working his way toward this position of power for, well, a decade (probably longer).
If I were him I wouldn't be so receptive to being disgraced and dismissed, if I knew others were equally corrupt and/or complicit.
NullPointer
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This would be perfect. Get rid of Pence first, then get rid of Trump. They both need to go; I'm sick of deciding which one is worse (competent evil or incompetent evil).
It all really depends on how these domino's fall. I won't be surprised if he is offered backdoor and gushy private gig(s) and he takes it, over being publicly fired and/or prosecuted over this shit.
If it goes to prosecution or Trump tries to humiliate him with public firing etc. there is possibility that he won't go down silently if he has some goods on e.g. Pence or even Trump.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/830128169114095616Top Democrat on House Foreign Affairs Committee, Rep. Eliot Engel: Trump must fire Flynn immediately
Seeing as how the first few weeks have gone, I'm comfortable with this. Trump has caused pain but he keeps shooting himself in the foot in the process. And the clowns he's hired to fill his administration clearly aren't used to being under this much scrutiny when trying to pull their normal con jobs. It's inevitable that they'll keep getting caught.
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