MisterXDTV
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By tomorrow, he means monday or tuesday?
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Xbox to address multi platform games in spring, says former employee
By tomorrow, he means monday or tuesday?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It's a no win until they start bringing in revenue from selling on PS.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I meant in their messaging to the players, Xbox will get torched no matter how they frame it at this point
I think its a good move for MS studios but I game everywhere so I don't have a horse in that console wars race
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Fun fact: Xbox/Microsoft didn't work hard to gain back any trust. They just kept trust from those who blindly followed promises.
There is an important saying:
It's far easier to con someone, than to convince someone that they got conned.
Sanepar
Member
Probably will say there is nothing definitive until they have all strategy set.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
At this point, I think MS would be better served to release Starfield on PS, sooner rather than later. They could sell the barebones version and still be able to sell a season pass/DLC on PS. I don't think it makes a lot of sense to wait. Of course, it depends on what stage of porting they are at.
DJ12
Member
Imagine the meltdowns when MS release a game that's ps exclusive or Sony have marketing rights.
This isn't the endgame of meltdowns, it's just the beginning.
MonkD
Member
Didn't Microsoft release games for Windows before Xbox was a thing?
The biggest problem I'm seeing with this is that Sony would end up with something akin to a home console monopoly. I'm guessing the meltdown is from people who won't be able to keep building their current Xbox-library on console, sort of like the outcry when Epic opened their own digital store, but worse?
The biggest problem I'm seeing with this is that Sony would end up with something akin to a home console monopoly. I'm guessing the meltdown is from people who won't be able to keep building their current Xbox-library on console, sort of like the outcry when Epic opened their own digital store, but worse?
King Dazzar
Member
I agree. But this is Xbox all over. Its just more people are finally at long last seeing the mask slip and the management for what they are really like. I wouldn't be surprised if its some wishy washy, we're all about the gamers wherever they play and we're committed to great experiences blah blah blah. Hopefully many wont be taken in by it this time though.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
One question I have is, why in the holy fuck is Phil Spencer still employed there. This soy-infused clown has done absolutely nothing good for Xbox except probably back compat (which isn't even an ongoing initiative anymore). Fucked around for years with dumb shit, and now it's lead to the death of Xbox as a console. Great job.
On the game side, he allowed Halo to be driven into the ground for over a decade by 343 (AKA the worst game developer in history) to the point where it's basically irrelevant. Gears ain't much better now.
Mattrick, despite being a total snake, was a cut throat business guy and actually had some games for his console at launch. Maybe he wasn't so bad after all.
On the game side, he allowed Halo to be driven into the ground for over a decade by 343 (AKA the worst game developer in history) to the point where it's basically irrelevant. Gears ain't much better now.
Mattrick, despite being a total snake, was a cut throat business guy and actually had some games for his console at launch. Maybe he wasn't so bad after all.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I am no fan of a console monopoly, but Xbox did that.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Why the fuck is Aaron Greenberg or Matt Booty still employed? Sarah Bond gets a pass because she hasn't been around long enough to gauge whether she is good at her job. Phil has at least tried to do things positive (BC), I cannot think of a single thing that Matt Booty has brought to the table. He was brought in to manage first party studios. I am talking about the blue blood first party studios, not those acquired from Bethesda or ABK. The output from those studios has been dismal. Absolutely dismal. Halo Infinite ended up costing around $500Mish development budget.
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Mibu no ookami
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Hey, a lot of people got it wrong. I'm guilty of, expecting MS to give it a good go after all these acquisitions and not just pull the chute, not even 2 months into 2024. But i am a grown assed man. I can happily admit I got it wrong.
Until, I officially lose all of my past purchases on Xbox it doesn't affect me in the slightest. I have never had a problem with people being able to play games where they want and like I said, if this keeps people employed then cool.
I guess I thought Microsoft had more fight in them to try and build something after spending all this money but I guess the bubble burst post covid. So many layoffs, no growth for Xbox or gaming in general. I guess the writings now just well and truly chiselled into the wall.
The reality is, everyone will be fine and can enjoy the games they want to enjoy, wherever they play. It's only going to be a good thing as MS will have to make sure their releases are up to scratch on these platforms.
Love the off the wall response. A lot of people didn't want to get it right. It was comical. Now you've taken it to this weird place like anyone said your digital library is going to disappear.
foamdino
Member
There is stuff from 4 years ago (the reveal) that still hasn't launched:
Everything announced at the Xbox Series X Games Showcase
Halo Infinite, Avowed, Fable, State of Decay 3, and all the rest
www.polygon.com
This list has:
* State of decay 3
* Everwild
* Avowed
They have a history of pushing CGI trailers at showcases and then simply not delivering. The XBone had a decent slate of launch games, you cannot say that about the series consoles.
Mibu no ookami
Member
It's not quite that clear cut. I think we will have to see what happens to the Xbox community. Will people trade in their XBS consoles? Will they still buy games at the level they were buying before?
This news definitely came before Microsoft wanted it to and in a way they did not intend, which will have consequences in the market.
So much of their revenue is based on royalties and GamePass subscriptions.
Even in an all digital future, you want a platform you can trust in the future. Not the promise that you can play your current game library on your tv in the next 5 years via streaming.
There is going to be an all-stop on Xbox. Could be nothing or it could be Black monday with people trying to sell their stuff before the value vanishes in the used market.
DrFigs
Member
I mean if this is a signal that Xbox will go third party, i assume investors will love it. I don't think xbox is particularly attractive to MS shareholders
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kyussman
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They should have invested heavily in studio's during the 360 era,instead they coasted on Halo/Gears/Forza......crazy that a software company like Microsoft didn't understand they would need lots of great quality exclusive games to secure their future in the console business....crazy!
Mibu no ookami
Member
I dont expect this to significantly move the needle for Microsoft one way or another. What it could mean however is a significant increase in stock price for Sony.
Sony lost about 20% of its value when the ABK deal was announced. Some of that was going to come off the top after the end of the pandemic anyways, but they could recover a good chunk.
Ironically, that would give them a lot more spending power for acquisitions.
DenchDeckard
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I don't understand why you think it's a weird place.
Efren is G.O.A.T.
Member
My business intelligence is basically non-existent so my next comment is most likely going to come out as ignorant.
While I don't know what is Microsoft's strategy with Xbox, why can't they just understand that if they want people to buy their hardware at the same level Sony is, they just have to release 2-3 9/10-10/10 games a year exclusive to their system?
While I don't know what is Microsoft's strategy with Xbox, why can't they just understand that if they want people to buy their hardware at the same level Sony is, they just have to release 2-3 9/10-10/10 games a year exclusive to their system?
DrFigs
Member
yes in that case, i agree w/ you on both counts. i don't think investors like xbox, but it's not that important to them. sony should also see a price increase. but the stock market is zany so anything can happen
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spons
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We'll absolutely hear something today. They can't ignore it, they will try to spin it in some way that benefits them in any way possible.So.. when we will hear something ? Today ?
I want to know if my Xbox halo infinite edition that is still sealed is worth something these days or just a waste of plastic and I lost my money
//DEVIL//
Member
You said absolutely then you said they can't ignore it implying you are not 100% sure and you are basing this on solid logic ( not that I am disagreeing with you )
But do we have a somehow trusted source of some sort of announcement today ?
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
No. People just hope that it will happen because of the intense online pressure.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
lol, the "LOL NVM ITS REAL"This floating around from an insider
TheBomb
Member
Phill mad? He should have been replaced long ago by corporate. They gave him so many chances.This floating around from an insider
Sushi_Combo
Member
When Phil's mad he plays Diablo 4
This guy is unbelievable
He's technically right.
Eventhough i have own a PS ever since 1 until now,i dont play 1st party games
Until today i havent played Last Of Us,Uncharted,Horizon and GhostTsushi.
I dont play Fifa or COD also.
I buy PS due to mostly anime games like Gundam and Super Robot War.
LordCBH
Member
Apparently he was playing Diablo 4 last night lol.
reinking
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Yup he was super concerned about all this drama
Or maybe its all going according to plan
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reinking
Gold Member
The one time I want to hear from Phil and he locks himself in his room,
I really want that book when he retires.
Could be going to plan. Would have to guess it’s the backup plan though. The initial announced release dates for Halo and Starfield suggest to me they were all in on hardware until things didn’t pan out for those games as hoped.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
So my info is indeed a few months old and maybe something did happen in the last couple of days to dramatically change course but I think they are still all in on hardware and I keep using the term I heard they are doubling down and making even more hardware
dead monkey uk
Member
Unless it was the intern that Phil hires to grow his Gamerscore.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Microsoft actually had a lot of fight, but their way of fighting was to throw money at every problem without the leadership to make it worthwhile. No other company could afford to sustain delay after delay for Halo Infinite or allow 343 to blow through funds like they did.Hey, a lot of people got it wrong. I'm guilty of, expecting MS to give it a good go after all these acquisitions and not just pull the chute, not even 2 months into 2024. But i am a grown assed man. I can happily admit I got it wrong.
Until, I officially lose all of my past purchases on Xbox it doesn't affect me in the slightest. I have never had a problem with people being able to play games where they want and like I said, if this keeps people employed then cool.
I guess I thought Microsoft had more fight in them to try and build something after spending all this money but I guess the bubble burst post covid. So many layoffs, no growth for Xbox or gaming in general. I guess the writings now just well and truly chiselled into the wall.
The reality is, everyone will be fine and can enjoy the games they want to enjoy, wherever they play. It's only going to be a good thing as MS will have to make sure their releases are up to scratch on these platforms.
DJ12
Member
Since the one?This floating around from an insider
Fuck sake it's never been profitable. Even at its best they had to spend billions extra because they put it together like a piece of shit.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
SEE!!! Some of us were right! This is being leaked to MS insiders to "report" so that once MS officially talks about it, it lessens the blow. That's the answer to your final sentence. It makes total sense now.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Xbox era podcast host saying something happening tomorrow. No idea if this guy has a good track record.
Has anybody acknowledge how right this poster was, considering he's the Xbox ERA podcast host? Maybe we should listen to these unofficial "leaks" more often.....
balls of snow
Member
They cant be in la la land enough to wait until spring to address this cant they.
DenchDeckard
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I'm saying it, Phil's out the door.
Moridianae
Member
That's a bit of a non-answer and the Xbox community is in full-on meltdown mode.
I don't think they should do that. Best to say what's going on and be done with it.
They're dropping the ball *everywhere* right now.
The whole extra sub to GPass to even play XIV is such a ridiculous thing. It was never required to have PS+. All those years of hoping and Microsoft ups your bill. Goofy stuff from MS lately.