typhonsentra
Banned
farnham said:
Great novel? Eh, I don't know about that. 1-6 were solid, but 7 and 8 were a cluster****, and the unanswered questions keep piling up. It's like the Japanese "Lost".
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deserves an own thread..? Suzumiya Haruhi getting a own game
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Great novel? Eh, I don't know about that. 1-6 were solid, but 7 and 8 were a cluster****, and the unanswered questions keep piling up. It's like the Japanese "Lost".
I'm pretty sure the creator worked with them in deciding which parts to include and which not to.farnham said:
...Of course, that doesn't make it any less problematic. I will admit, reading some of the translated parts of the novel made a great deal of the show make more sense--I can't believe that they never explained the whole "three years ago" thing that they continually alluded to, and some major things that happened during the movie production weren't explained either.
...That said, man, do I get annoyed with Kyon. I'd demand the novel be released in English if I could stand Kyon as a character when it's just his voice speaking and no visual representation. As it is, I don't care too much.
Hero said:Most likely the game is going to be horrible, but I suppose we could be surprised.
And it sounds like a lot of people are upset that Suzumiya Haruhi was one of the most popular anime. Being successful does entail jealousy and unwarranted hatred.
So disliking an anime because's it's made of mediocrity and hype means folks are jealous?
The game is probably going to suck as most licensed things end up that way (especially if it's just going to ape the show).
Diablohead
Member
Need more pictures!
haruhi was an ok show, better than average (considering most average animes suck) but nowhere near greatness as people declare.
I liked the comedy at times, characters were likeable and kept you guessing, I also liked the way the episodes were structured, was interesting.
but why would someone want to play a game about it?
p.s. anime is still good, but One Piece towers above everything.
I liked the comedy at times, characters were likeable and kept you guessing, I also liked the way the episodes were structured, was interesting.
the phoenix wright parody was gold..I was like "huh? that looks familiar....HOLD IT!"
but why would someone want to play a game about it?
p.s. anime is still good, but One Piece towers above everything.
rollingstart
Banned
X26 said:
real men watch Hokuto no Ken
Pureauthor
Member
Real men watch One Piece and bow before Franky (and Brooke).
Oh, cut the elitist crap.
Oh, cut the elitist crap.
PorscheThunder
Banned
Diablohead said:Need more pictures!
Cowabunga!
apologies to zon
Adam Blade
WWKC
... lol at the bandwagon haters (TM).
Again, this is probably going to be another mediocre anime franchise ADV, so I don't think it's really going to matter to anyone, regardless if you liked the anime or not.
It was ok, but I liked it more for the character designs of course.
It was ok, but I liked it more for the character designs of course.
No. Unmei no Keitouju, Circus' game. Not the horrible 3-D PSP fighter.Lyte Edge said:
You're aware that Haruhi is a parody of all that crap you said you hate, right?Alex said:
That said, it is a bit overrated by the people who really make it out to be anything more than a fairly amusing and zany send-up of anime cliches.
Otherwise, it's not THAT hard to find good recent anime that doesn't have any of that crap. You're just not looking in the right places. Hell, from last year alone, just look into Honey and Clover II (I suppose you could argue Hagu plays into the whole moe thing, but she is actually in her twenties by the second series), Black Lagoon, Ergo Proxy, Taiyou no Mokushiroku, Kemonozume, FLAG, or Freedom, just as some examples. The year before had Eureka seveN, Honey and Clover I, Mushishi, Blood+, and Noein. And the year before that had Monster, Samurai Champloo, Paranoia Agent, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd GIG, BECK, Bleach, and Fantastic Children (which, despite its name, was not some wacky pedo show).
So there's more than enough good stuff out there across many different genres. It's just that there's a lot more out there that's pure grade-A garbage, that's all.
Not a bad idea, then we'll have 10% of the thread devoted to the games, 30% devoted to the animes, and 60% devoted to arguing about the ongoing taste and trends in anime!Lindsay said:
And it's not like a lot of anime was good in the past either, it was just that fansubbing was smaller and actually selected quality titles to work from. Nowadays everything under the sun is fansubbed and so people actually see the real range of anime for what it is.
I could probably churn out at least a five-page essay to explain why the show adheres to everything I hold dear about fictional stories (of all breeds: song, literature, poetry, drama, television, etc.), but to keep it short:Alex said:
Haruhi is an original character, and originality in characters is valuable because characters are one of only two means by which stories distinguish themselves from one another. (The elements of stories are plot, language, and characters--but literally every plot can be boiled down to a character going on some sort of physical, mental, or emotional journey. Thus, language and characters remain, but language grows less relevant as sound and visuals are introduced.) She can't be easily classed into any number of stock stereotypes or archetypes, if archetypical interpretation is one's method, and it's unusual to find a character who shares her particular psychology and sorts of antics all combined in one person.
Kyon, meanwhile, is fairly generic, but he excels at exploding his laughably minor problems into melodrama, and whines about his "situations" with a dry humor that has a way of seeming to dispel the reality that he is whining at all. It takes greater skill from a writer to make an audience care about someone's minor problems, like the eccentricity of a girl friend, than someone's major problems, like death or divorce or drug use or other heavy-handed garbage of such sort. Haruhi (the show) is impressive in that sense because it doesn't rely on plot devices that garner an easy, cop-out, autopilot type of sympathy.
Diablohead
Member
What about the people that watch both? or are they non exsistant. I watch many of different animes and most of the time enjoy them all, it's nice to have a mix.X26 said:
Pureauthor
Member
Jiggy37 said:
So what's your opinion on One Piece?
Drinky Crow
Banned
any attempt the anime has made at parody is immediately canceled out by the fact that it also closely hews to the worst of anime fanservice conventions. dunno about the novels; i can't imagine wanting to read them. are they graphic novels, and if so, do they blatantly feature big-titty lolis in fetishwear?
oh moe-chan, we're breaking down the fourth wall with our massive maidwear-sheathed mammaries! our audience doesn't know whether to wink or wank!
hell, after excel saga, self-parody is almost a cliche in anime.
PorscheThunder
Banned
They're wrong. The world revolves around me, and I'll enforce that with a 2X4 that has rusty nails in it.Defuser said:
Of course it closely hews to fanservice conventions. You can't do parody unless you get close to it. That's the entire point of parody. If you don't get close to what you're making fun of, then it's simply a joke instead of a parody.
Not that there's any denying that it was very beneficial for marketing to play into your normal lolicon tripe, but I would say that there's more stuff AROUND the show that starts to cross the line from parody to "just being another moe" than there is actually in the show. Blame the marketing for missing the point, I suppose.
Not that there's any denying that it was very beneficial for marketing to play into your normal lolicon tripe, but I would say that there's more stuff AROUND the show that starts to cross the line from parody to "just being another moe" than there is actually in the show. Blame the marketing for missing the point, I suppose.
Drinky Crow
Banned
the "marketing"? they coulda gone for a less generic and fan-friendly art style for starters, and there's no excuse for the jiggling tetas. you sure as shit can do a real parody without succumbing to the circlejerk, and it testifies to just how entrenched suzumiya's creators are in modern anime wankdom that they can't lift themselves above it in any creative or original fashion.
haruhi herself is pure moe archetype despite the narrator's claims otherwise. the show is pure fanservice, no matter how it lies to itself and its fans. hell, the lie is the reason it's so popular with a certain set: it excuses their tastes.
haruhi herself is pure moe archetype despite the narrator's claims otherwise. the show is pure fanservice, no matter how it lies to itself and its fans. hell, the lie is the reason it's so popular with a certain set: it excuses their tastes.
Drinky Crow
Banned
my goal isn't to state my hate for it, because i don't hate it -- it's not really worthy of anything, much less hate. it's generic crap anime.
my goal is to PISS YOU OFF.
my goal is to PISS YOU OFF.
buckfutter
Member
At least as far as this show is concerned, Drinky knows exactly what he's talking about.Drinky Crow said:
Adam Blade
WWKC
Oh Drinky... why are you so bitter? :x
Drinky Crow
Banned
i'm not bitter; i simply only post when i have a strong opinion. and folks only have strong opinions when they adore something or are utterly irritated by it. at my age, i've settled down, so crankiness is my only real option. what!
Pureauthor
Member
Drinky Crow said:
The cat in your avatar looks nice.
It is a nice cat.
I like nice cats.
Especially broiled.
Drinky Crow
Banned
ain't much meat on it
Pureauthor
Member
Could gnaw on a leg.
Maybe I should just go get lunch. I'm hungry. >_<
Maybe I should just go get lunch. I'm hungry. >_<
Drinky Crow
Banned
evangelion was overrated, but it was also fairly novel. come on, it was the first mainstream anime where every single character was loathesome. yes, even pen-pen. how could you not appreciate that?
on the other hand, it ultimately spawned the xeno* games.
on the other hand, it ultimately spawned the xeno* games.
Shouta
Member
MetatronM said:
You can certainly parody without closely treading fanservice conventions but I think that's not really the point. The show starts off a parody (the first two broadcast episodes in particular) but quickly becomes what it was trying to make fun of IMO. I think it just becomes a regular fanservice-y show with a few interesting episodes and a body of modern pop culture references.
cartman414
Member
Now I'm no Haruhi otaku by any means, but given her brand of insouciance, I'd hardly consider Haruhi a generic character.
And I liked Pen^2. But that's probably just me.
And I liked Pen^2. But that's probably just me.