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999 the novel (iOS) launches March 17
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cosmicblizzard
Banned
What's good is on replays, you can fast forward through text that you've already seen, which is useful since it will stop once you get to some new text and you can put more pieces of the crazy story together.
But yeah, the game is most definitely not for everyone. It and VLR are super praised because of their true endings and how well the buildup up to those points work, but that doesn't mean the pacing is the best at all times. Don't feel bad if you just aren't enjoying yourself.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
I did too. I honestly think the game is worse if you don't use an endings guide since you're basically dicking around for all of the endings. And if you're redoing the puzzles there's no harm in using a guide to get through them again.
It's a bit obscure to be honest, I went through the game like 5 times while keeping a sheet of notes before I went to the chart.
Byronic Hero
Member
Of course. Even though the
absence of the last puzzle will be weird since it's one of the last twists in the game.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
What sucks is I already read spoilers on the net.
I should've waited.
I should've waited.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
OH yeah is this coming to Android, as well?
Plus, how are they going to do a novel for this? The game has multiple endings and story branches, doesnt it?
Plus, how are they going to do a novel for this? The game has multiple endings and story branches, doesnt it?
ExFalsoQuodlibet
Member
If the upgrade in the artwork will be as great as the one with the Phoenix Wright series, I'm gonna drool.
Poltergust
Member
I seriously don't understand how this game will work with no puzzle sections. A lot of the story comes from those sections. Will the game just jump-cut to those points or something?
From what I've read they "novalize" the puzzle sections.
Also, regarding a certain twist:
They might split the screen in two, like most DS emulators? Or maybe they added more text to that ending part so that it makes more sense without the two screens? Also, maybe the last puzzle is still in the game?
My thoughts exactly. I liked 999 a lot and enjoyed the puzzles the first few times. But I had my fill. This looks like a nice way to revisit the story without redoing the same puzzles over and over. Still glad I played the DS version first, especially since I run Android
Christ. You weren't kidding at all.
Nah, I got through about half the endings before a friend linked me to a guide and flowchart. I never would have gotten the true ending without it. I figured most of the puzzles out myself, only used a guide for some of the last ones. So yeah, no shame, IMHO.
I've done that before too, and almost always regret it. Try to come back to it someday when your memory is hazy, it's still interesting and worthwhile.
podracer35
Member
I want this. Soooooo badly! Thank the Funyarinpa that it comes out at the start of my Spring Break! ^_^
Even if it's just a stripped down version of the original with no puzzles, it's just $5, and that makes it totally worth it! New artwork is just the icing on the cake! I'm also loving the text bubbles, reminds me a lot of TWEWY.
MAJOR SPOILERS
And yeah, tip to everyone who's new to the series: STAY AWAY FROM THE WEBSITE!!!!! It's a pretty nice site, but there's some spoiler territory material... Out of context spoilers, but spoilers nonetheless.
Even if it's just a stripped down version of the original with no puzzles, it's just $5, and that makes it totally worth it! New artwork is just the icing on the cake!
I'm also loving the text bubbles, reminds me a lot of TWEWY.MAJOR SPOILERS
I'm highly curious about how they'll handle the final puzzle without the puzzle... Hopefully the impact is retained.
And yeah, tip to everyone who's new to the series: STAY AWAY FROM THE WEBSITE!!!!! It's a pretty nice site, but there's some spoiler territory material... Out of context spoilers, but spoilers nonetheless.
timetokill
Banned
From what I can tell, because it's on a SONY Platform?
VLR is a worse experience than 999 so I don't really understand why people would hate having to play 999 on DS but want to play the inferior sequel so badly.
Even watching a LP of the DS version would be better than getting this version.
Buying into hype while having no clue that they're just going to get more of the same, only with weaker characters and atmosphere (and much worse payoff story-wise). If they're so desperate to play the lesser successor and can't stand icky DS cooties, they may as well just YouTube 999 or skip it altogether.
This, this, this.
Because when going for multiple endings on D's you have to go through all the same shit over and over but in vlr you can fast forward through it. Hoping iOS version is like the sequel otherwise I won't bother
Red_taiyaki
Member
Played through VLR (having never finished 999 on my DS). That being said, I feel that removing the puzzles takes away from the tension but I'll bite regardless since I love supporting VNs.
Kudos to Aksys for making the game more accessible to people who don't own handhelds.
Kudos to Aksys for making the game more accessible to people who don't own handhelds.
nhlducks35
Member
$5? I'm in.
Eh, I'd say there's only one page with a big, obvious character spoiler and that's
#8, Lotus'
Ace's turn.
Not wanting to play 999 five times is not the same as not liking it
timetokill
Banned
iOS version has no puzzles at all, so you're not "playing" it. Some critical story stuff happens during puzzle segments in 999 so there is a reason to replay them... not to mention it's trivial to "re-do" the puzzles once you know the solutions.
Also you CAN fast-forward in 999 on DS, what VLR adds is the ability to skip sections entirely.
I'm not saying the skip isn't a good addition, it's that 999 is better in basically every other way beside the lack of skip functionality.
You're going to have to play VLR many more times than that to finish it.
Riposte
Member
New rooms each time though. They actually made it so each major route split means an entirely new room. Pretty sure it didn't work out that way in 999 (that was more like combining choices). I also think VLR has better puzzles and, thus, puzzle rooms, in addition to having more.
Quantity didn't equal quality in VLR's case. Not to mention that the rules and objectives of VLR's Ambidex Game didn't work the same as the Nonary Game in 999 (not to mention the lack of tension due to no time limit for the participants completing the game in VLR).
Except cutting out the puzzles cuts out story and interactions in 999, too. 999's puzzles weren't exactly hard anyway, certainly not compared to the ones in VLR.
podracer35
Member
I think the only thing I'm actually missing from this "remake" is voices. (Though, I'm sure most people would just complain about them anyways... -_-)
Thankfully there's at least the fandub that's slowly in progress.
Thankfully there's at least the fandub that's slowly in progress.
Astral/H3X
Member
Honestly the replaying part bit me harder in VLR than it did in 999. 999 with a guide you had to play what, 3 times? Whereas VLR you basically played it 20 times. Jeeeezus.
Yeah, I'm a bit confused too. Assuming emulation means piracy is involved is odd.
Anyway, like someone said, I think even reading a let's play of the DS version is preferable to the iOS version but hell, as long as more people get to experience 999 I'm happy. Stuff of the gods.
brickarts295
Member
Perfect, after this, I'll replay VLR, and then cry in a corner because there wont a Zero Escape 3.
I definitely prefer 999 to VLR but I can see why people might prefer VLR. You never have to do a puzzle twice (unless you get the game breaking bug, like I did.....I'm still sort of bitter about that....), it's bigger in scope, and in some respects the writing is more polished. 999's atmosphere, twist, themes, along with other elements that I don't feel like going into, are superior to VLR's and it makes the game better as a full package IMO, but that's not to say that 999 is definitively better than VLR.
What important interaction could they not just explain? I can see getting rid of the smaller stuff but there's no reason some of the major *hint**hint* stuff can't be included. Doesn't really matter to me though, I would give those up if it also meant getting rid of puzzles.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
You'll be playing VLR 9 times.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Don't talk about Assassin's Creed like that!
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I don't think he would be banned if he didn't pirate it. I played 999 on my PC after buying a copy from a GAFer since my DS with my sister who was in another city and no one had a problem with it in the OT including the Aksys staff.
Not simply details important to the overarching story, but the little things that flesh out the characters, make them interesting. Basically, the same sort of quirks, humor, and bits of characterization you'd get from investigating rooms in an Ace Attorney game.
Being fine with watering down everything that would help make either the story or the characters it revolves around more interesting just to be rid of puzzles sounds more than a bit extreme to me.
For me, this was one of my complaints about it. 999 was ultimately a more personal story, whereas VLR ultimately (MAJOR spoilers)
became just another one about saving the world
Funny, I just started 999 on DS last night.
Really hope the adoration is deserved because so far I find the subject matter completely flies in the face of the ridiculous character art. Puzzles are kind of just ok and even for a visual novel it reads wayyyyyy tooooo sloooowwwwllly. Only put maybe 2 hours in so far, but I can't tap the screen fast enough to make the text crawl faster.
I'll keep at it though.
Really hope the adoration is deserved because so far I find the subject matter completely flies in the face of the ridiculous character art. Puzzles are kind of just ok and even for a visual novel it reads wayyyyyy tooooo sloooowwwwllly. Only put maybe 2 hours in so far, but I can't tap the screen fast enough to make the text crawl faster.
I'll keep at it though.